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Old 10-06-2010 | 02:43 PM
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New Safety Crash Ratings

Washington Post Article-Safer cars but fewer stars in government crash tests
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...prss=rss_metro

They don't have the new rating for the Fit yet, but the Versa went from 4 stars in 2010 to 2 Stars in 2011...

The 2010 Fit-(2) 5 Star, (2) 4 Star
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle%20Sh...Detail?ID=8442


The 2010 Versa Hatch-All 4 Star...
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle%20Sh...Detail?ID=8416
 

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Old 10-06-2010 | 03:23 PM
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did the regulation change or something??
 
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Old 10-06-2010 | 03:30 PM
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Yes...

Originally Posted by kenchan
did the regulation change or something??
From the Washington Post Article...
"We are raising the bar on safety because we are subjecting automobiles to more rigorous tests," he said Tuesday, before a backdrop of mangled vehicles and flanked by a row of crash-test dummies outside his agency's headquarters in Southeast Washington. "We know that people wait to get these ratings . . . as they go to showrooms to buy automobiles."
 
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Old 10-06-2010 | 04:35 PM
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thanks for the info. this is going make it tough for car manufacturers to sell "economy" cars at a discount.
 
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Old 10-06-2010 | 09:44 PM
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Bye-bye lightweight Fit for the next gen model.
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 04:11 PM
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hello high insurance rates for economy cars... this makes no sense.
 
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Old 10-17-2010 | 03:10 PM
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All cars have gotten safer - the old standard was a bit of a joke after 2000 or so.

The IIHS, in particular, has done a great job lighting a fire under the NHTSA's ass. Remember when they tested the 2003 F150?


Here's a Civic 10 years ago:

and just for kicks, a Neon from 10 years ago:


vs today's Civic:

and Fit:


I do find it annoying that the new standards are so ambiguous. The old standard was less than useful due to the overall increased safety levels, but was still concrete:

Chance of serious injury in frontal crash:
Less than 10% chance (5 stars)
10-19% chance (4 stars)
20-34% chance (3 stars)
35-45% chance (2 stars)
More than 45% chance (1 star)

Side impact:
Less than 6% chance (5 stars)
6-10% chance (4 stars)
11-20% chance (3 stars)
21-25% chance (2 stars)
More than 25% chance (1 star)

The new standard defines 3 stars as average, and 4 as below average, 5 far below average (chance of serious injury... low is good ;-) )

My other problem with both NHTSA and IIHS testing is that the frontal crash tests are not comparable between size class. For the side test, they always use a 3000 lbs simulated light-truck front, at 38 mph. Basically, a Ford Ranger. Because all vehicles are hit by the same weighted object, you can compare a Smart For2 to a Hummer and the test is valid.

The front test compares two vehicles of equal weight. I'd like it if, rather than a wall at 35 mph, they had a 3500* lbs barrier coming at 35 mph. Let us see crash tests comparable across the board. Still, head-on collisions are rather rare, accounting for only about 1 in 50 crashes.

* lighter than a minivan or SUV, heavier than a compact, about average for a midsize sedan

Besides, it's still possible for a well engineered car to get a good rating:
2011 Ford Fiesta | 2011 5-Star Safety Ratings | Safercar.gov | NHTSA

Maybe Nissan shouldn't have let the French design their Versa. I wonder what this will mean for the Juke...

Meanwhile, poor Toyota can't catch a break... the Camry dropped to a 3 star overall:
2011 Toyota Camry | 2011 5-Star Safety Ratings | Safercar.gov | NHTSA


EDIT:
EuroNCAP is a good place to see more comprehensive tests - a bit more like IIHS than NHTSA-NCAP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsz1mB3c4ZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7c31yzRktA

I'm surprised that the Versa did poorly. The closest Euro analogue is the Renault Modus, and 5th Gear had a great time running one into a Volvo tank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtLLvXrrFs
 

Last edited by Occam; 10-17-2010 at 03:27 PM.
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