New Honda Insight trashed -review
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New Honda Insight trashed -review
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From The Sunday Times
May 17, 2009
Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid
Jeremy Clarkson
Much has been written about the Insight, Honda’s new low-priced hybrid. We’ve been told how much carbon dioxide it produces, how its dashboard encourages frugal driving by glowing green when you’re easy on the throttle and how it is the dawn of all things. The beginning of days.
So far, though, you have not been told what it’s like as a car; as a tool for moving you, your friends and your things from place to place.
So here goes. It’s terrible. Biblically terrible. Possibly the worst new car money can buy. It’s the first car I’ve ever considered crashing into a tree, on purpose, so I didn’t have to drive it any more.
The biggest problem, and it’s taken me a while to work this out, because all the other problems are so vast and so cancerous, is the gearbox. For reasons known only to itself, Honda has fitted the Insight with something called constantly variable transmission (CVT).
It doesn’t work. Put your foot down in a normal car and the revs climb in tandem with the speed. In a CVT car, the revs spool up quickly and then the speed rises to match them. It feels like the clutch is slipping. It feels horrid.
And the sound is worse. The Honda’s petrol engine is a much-shaved, built-for-economy, low-friction 1.3 that, at full chat, makes a noise worse than someone else’s crying baby on an airliner. It’s worse than the sound of your parachute failing to open. Really, to get an idea of how awful it is, you’d have to sit a dog on a ham slicer.
So you’re sitting there with the engine screaming its head off, and your ears bleeding, and you’re doing only 23mph because that’s about the top speed, and you’re thinking things can’t get any worse, and then they do because you run over a small piece of grit.
Because the Honda has two motors, one that runs on petrol and one that runs on batteries, it is more expensive to make than a car that has one. But since the whole point of this car is that it could be sold for less than Toyota’s Smugmobile, the engineers have plainly peeled the suspension components to the bone. The result is a ride that beggars belief.
There’s more. Normally, Hondas feel as though they have been screwed together by eye surgeons. This one, however, feels as if it’s been made from steel so thin, you could read through it. And the seats, finished in pleblon, are designed specifically, it seems, to ruin your skeleton. This is hairy-shirted eco-ism at its very worst.
However, as a result of all this, prices start at £15,490 — that’s £3,000 or so less than the cost of the Prius. But at least with the Toyota there is no indication that you’re driving a car with two motors. In the Insight you are constantly reminded, not only by the idiotic dashboard, which shows leaves growing on a tree when you ease off the throttle (pass the sick bucket), but by the noise and the ride and the seats. And also by the hybrid system Honda has fitted.
In a Prius the electric motor can, though almost never does, power the car on its own. In the Honda the electric motor is designed to “assist” the petrol engine, providing more get-up-and-go when the need arises. The net result is this: in a Prius the transformation from electricity to petrol is subtle. In the Honda there are all sorts of jerks and clunks.
And for what? For sure, you could get 60 or more mpg if you were careful. And that’s not bad for a spacious five-door hatchback. But for the same money
you could have a Golf diesel, which
will be even more economical. And hasn’t been built out of rice paper to keep costs down.
Of course, I am well aware that there are a great many people in the world who believe that the burning of fossil fuels will one day kill all the Dutch and that something must be done.
They will see the poor ride, the woeful performance, the awful noise and the spine-bending seats as a price worth paying. But what about the eco-cost of building the car in the first place?
Honda has produced a graph that seems to suggest that making the Insight is only marginally more energy-hungry than making a normal car. And that the slight difference is more than negated by the resultant fuel savings.
Hmmm. I would not accuse Honda of telling porkies. That would be foolish. But I cannot see how making a car with two motors costs the same in terms of resources as making a car with one.
The nickel for the battery has to come from somewhere. Canada, usually. It has to be shipped to Japan, not on a sailing boat, I presume. And then it must be converted, not in a tree house, into a battery, and then that battery must be transported, not on an ox cart, to the Insight production plant in Suzuka. And then the finished car has to be shipped, not by Thor Heyerdahl, to Britain, where it can be transported, not by wind, to the home of a man with a beard who thinks he’s doing the world a favour.
Why doesn’t he just buy a Range Rover, which is made from local components, just down the road? No, really — weird-beards buy locally produced meat and vegetables for eco-reasons. So why not apply the same logic to cars?
At this point you will probably dismiss what I’m saying as the rantings of a petrolhead, and think that I have my head in the sand.
That’s not true. While I have yet to be convinced that man’s 3% contribution to the planet’s greenhouse gases affects the climate, I do recognise that oil is a finite resource and that as it becomes more scarce, the political ramifications could well be dire. I therefore absolutely accept the urgent need for alternative fuels.
But let me be clear that hybrid cars are designed solely to milk the guilt genes of the smug and the foolish. And that pure electric cars, such as the G-Wiz and the Tesla, don’t work at all because they are just too inconvenient.
Since about 1917 the car industry has not had a technological revolution — unlike, say, the world of communications or film. There has never been a 3G moment at Peugeot nor a need to embrace DVD at Nissan. There has been no VHS/Betamax battle between Fiat and Renault.
Car makers, then, have had nearly a century to develop and hone the principles of suck, squeeze, bang, blow. And they have become very good at it.
But now comes the need to throw away the heart of the beast, the internal combustion engine, and start again. And, critically, the first of the new cars with their new power systems must be better than the last of the old ones. Or no one will buy them. That’s a tall order. That’s like dragging Didier Drogba onto a cricket pitch and expecting him to be better than Ian Botham.
And here’s the kicker. That’s exactly what Honda has done with its other eco-car, the Clarity. Instead of using a petrol engine to charge up the electric motor’s batteries, as happens on the Insight, the Clarity uses hydrogen: the most abundant gas in the universe.
The only waste product is water. The car feels like a car. And, best of all, the power it produces is so enormous, it can be used by day to get you to 120mph and by night to run all the electrical appliances in your house. This is not science fiction. There is a fleet of Claritys running around California right now.
There are problems to be overcome. Making hydrogen is a fuel-hungry process, and there is no infrastructure. But Alexander Fleming didn’t look at his mould and think, “Oh dear, no one will put that in their mouth”, and give up.
I would have hoped, therefore, that Honda had diverted every penny it had into making hydrogen work rather than stopping off on the way to make a half-arsed halfway house for fools and madmen.
The only hope I have is that there are enough fools and madmen out there who will buy an Insight to look sanctimonious outside the school gates. And that the cash this generates can be used to develop something a bit more constructive.
The Clarksometer
Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid
Engine 1399cc, four cylinders
Power 87bhp@5800rpm
Torque 89 lb ft @ 4500rpm
Transmission CVT
Fuel 64.2mpg (combined)
CO2 101g/km
Acceleration 0-62mph: 12.5sec
Top speed 113mph
Price £15,490
Road tax band B (£15 a year)
Clarkson's verdict
Good only for parting the smug from their money
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From The Sunday Times
May 17, 2009
Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid
Jeremy Clarkson
Much has been written about the Insight, Honda’s new low-priced hybrid. We’ve been told how much carbon dioxide it produces, how its dashboard encourages frugal driving by glowing green when you’re easy on the throttle and how it is the dawn of all things. The beginning of days.
So far, though, you have not been told what it’s like as a car; as a tool for moving you, your friends and your things from place to place.
So here goes. It’s terrible. Biblically terrible. Possibly the worst new car money can buy. It’s the first car I’ve ever considered crashing into a tree, on purpose, so I didn’t have to drive it any more.
The biggest problem, and it’s taken me a while to work this out, because all the other problems are so vast and so cancerous, is the gearbox. For reasons known only to itself, Honda has fitted the Insight with something called constantly variable transmission (CVT).
It doesn’t work. Put your foot down in a normal car and the revs climb in tandem with the speed. In a CVT car, the revs spool up quickly and then the speed rises to match them. It feels like the clutch is slipping. It feels horrid.
And the sound is worse. The Honda’s petrol engine is a much-shaved, built-for-economy, low-friction 1.3 that, at full chat, makes a noise worse than someone else’s crying baby on an airliner. It’s worse than the sound of your parachute failing to open. Really, to get an idea of how awful it is, you’d have to sit a dog on a ham slicer.
So you’re sitting there with the engine screaming its head off, and your ears bleeding, and you’re doing only 23mph because that’s about the top speed, and you’re thinking things can’t get any worse, and then they do because you run over a small piece of grit.
Because the Honda has two motors, one that runs on petrol and one that runs on batteries, it is more expensive to make than a car that has one. But since the whole point of this car is that it could be sold for less than Toyota’s Smugmobile, the engineers have plainly peeled the suspension components to the bone. The result is a ride that beggars belief.
There’s more. Normally, Hondas feel as though they have been screwed together by eye surgeons. This one, however, feels as if it’s been made from steel so thin, you could read through it. And the seats, finished in pleblon, are designed specifically, it seems, to ruin your skeleton. This is hairy-shirted eco-ism at its very worst.
However, as a result of all this, prices start at £15,490 — that’s £3,000 or so less than the cost of the Prius. But at least with the Toyota there is no indication that you’re driving a car with two motors. In the Insight you are constantly reminded, not only by the idiotic dashboard, which shows leaves growing on a tree when you ease off the throttle (pass the sick bucket), but by the noise and the ride and the seats. And also by the hybrid system Honda has fitted.
In a Prius the electric motor can, though almost never does, power the car on its own. In the Honda the electric motor is designed to “assist” the petrol engine, providing more get-up-and-go when the need arises. The net result is this: in a Prius the transformation from electricity to petrol is subtle. In the Honda there are all sorts of jerks and clunks.
And for what? For sure, you could get 60 or more mpg if you were careful. And that’s not bad for a spacious five-door hatchback. But for the same money
you could have a Golf diesel, which
will be even more economical. And hasn’t been built out of rice paper to keep costs down.
Of course, I am well aware that there are a great many people in the world who believe that the burning of fossil fuels will one day kill all the Dutch and that something must be done.
They will see the poor ride, the woeful performance, the awful noise and the spine-bending seats as a price worth paying. But what about the eco-cost of building the car in the first place?
Honda has produced a graph that seems to suggest that making the Insight is only marginally more energy-hungry than making a normal car. And that the slight difference is more than negated by the resultant fuel savings.
Hmmm. I would not accuse Honda of telling porkies. That would be foolish. But I cannot see how making a car with two motors costs the same in terms of resources as making a car with one.
The nickel for the battery has to come from somewhere. Canada, usually. It has to be shipped to Japan, not on a sailing boat, I presume. And then it must be converted, not in a tree house, into a battery, and then that battery must be transported, not on an ox cart, to the Insight production plant in Suzuka. And then the finished car has to be shipped, not by Thor Heyerdahl, to Britain, where it can be transported, not by wind, to the home of a man with a beard who thinks he’s doing the world a favour.
Why doesn’t he just buy a Range Rover, which is made from local components, just down the road? No, really — weird-beards buy locally produced meat and vegetables for eco-reasons. So why not apply the same logic to cars?
At this point you will probably dismiss what I’m saying as the rantings of a petrolhead, and think that I have my head in the sand.
That’s not true. While I have yet to be convinced that man’s 3% contribution to the planet’s greenhouse gases affects the climate, I do recognise that oil is a finite resource and that as it becomes more scarce, the political ramifications could well be dire. I therefore absolutely accept the urgent need for alternative fuels.
But let me be clear that hybrid cars are designed solely to milk the guilt genes of the smug and the foolish. And that pure electric cars, such as the G-Wiz and the Tesla, don’t work at all because they are just too inconvenient.
Since about 1917 the car industry has not had a technological revolution — unlike, say, the world of communications or film. There has never been a 3G moment at Peugeot nor a need to embrace DVD at Nissan. There has been no VHS/Betamax battle between Fiat and Renault.
Car makers, then, have had nearly a century to develop and hone the principles of suck, squeeze, bang, blow. And they have become very good at it.
But now comes the need to throw away the heart of the beast, the internal combustion engine, and start again. And, critically, the first of the new cars with their new power systems must be better than the last of the old ones. Or no one will buy them. That’s a tall order. That’s like dragging Didier Drogba onto a cricket pitch and expecting him to be better than Ian Botham.
And here’s the kicker. That’s exactly what Honda has done with its other eco-car, the Clarity. Instead of using a petrol engine to charge up the electric motor’s batteries, as happens on the Insight, the Clarity uses hydrogen: the most abundant gas in the universe.
The only waste product is water. The car feels like a car. And, best of all, the power it produces is so enormous, it can be used by day to get you to 120mph and by night to run all the electrical appliances in your house. This is not science fiction. There is a fleet of Claritys running around California right now.
There are problems to be overcome. Making hydrogen is a fuel-hungry process, and there is no infrastructure. But Alexander Fleming didn’t look at his mould and think, “Oh dear, no one will put that in their mouth”, and give up.
I would have hoped, therefore, that Honda had diverted every penny it had into making hydrogen work rather than stopping off on the way to make a half-arsed halfway house for fools and madmen.
The only hope I have is that there are enough fools and madmen out there who will buy an Insight to look sanctimonious outside the school gates. And that the cash this generates can be used to develop something a bit more constructive.
The Clarksometer
Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid
Engine 1399cc, four cylinders
Power 87bhp@5800rpm
Torque 89 lb ft @ 4500rpm
Transmission CVT
Fuel 64.2mpg (combined)
CO2 101g/km
Acceleration 0-62mph: 12.5sec
Top speed 113mph
Price £15,490
Road tax band B (£15 a year)
Clarkson's verdict
Good only for parting the smug from their money
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#4
05-18-2009, 04:45 PM
Typical British humor. From what I've read, the Insight is the most car-like of the hybrids. Who knows. I'm happy to be driving a Fit and doing my small part.
#5
05-18-2009, 05:08 PM
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Los Angeles/Orange County
Posts: 4,261
wow this guy has a lot of hatred for the insight (and hybrids/electric vehicles?). his review seems heavily opinionated.
#8
05-18-2009, 07:28 PM
His review is garbage! (Just for entertainment purposes)
Looks like he hates hybrids, CVTs and Hondas.
I think I can speak as one who knows. I just bought the car and researched it thoroughly beforehand.
You all know me. I've owned 2 Fits. I drove the 2009 Civic Hybrid and 2009 Prius before picking the Insight.
Here are his criticisms answered:
Everyone here knows what a great, fun, high-quality car the Fit is.
I'm telling you, this Insight has a good mix of the Fits qualities and some different strengths: fun to drive, excellent fuel economy, quiet, comfortable, smooth and damn attractive.
I've gotten nothing but compliments on the car today at work. 1 co-worker immediately wanted to ride in it and drive it. It was fun to see him excited about it. Another co-worker (who just bought a Prius for his wife) wanted to ride in it and loved it.
When I came out to drive home today, there were 4 co-workers standing around my car saying they loved the looks. I think some of them didn't even know it was a hybrid. I guess I'll be giving some rides tomorrow. ;-)
Here it is:
I think I can speak as one who knows. I just bought the car and researched it thoroughly beforehand.
You all know me. I've owned 2 Fits. I drove the 2009 Civic Hybrid and 2009 Prius before picking the Insight.
Here are his criticisms answered:
- CVTs are sh!t: Well I happen to like it. The Prius, Civic Hybrid and old Insight were CVT and they all behave the same way. It's a different type transmission and has some real benefits. The best thing I like about it is the smooth transition when getting up to speed. (No jerking through all the gears)
- It has a bad ride/suspension: It rides pretty good to me. It has some firmness, which is good for being aware of the road but it's not a soft mushy detached feel (like the Prius). It's definitely a softer ride than the Fit, which suits me a little better.
- Poor build quality: Say what???? My neighbor rode/test drove my new Insight with me. (By the way, he drives a Porsche and works for a Ferrari/Maserati/Lambo dealership. He's also certified as an Acura mechanic and completely rebuilt a Porsche 911 recently. So he knows a bit about cars.) After driving it and looking over the engine and finish of the car, he said it was a very well put together car. He admired the engineering in it and said it reminded him of many Acuras in quality level. To me, it has a more solid upscale feel to it than the Fit (which is definitely no slouch in quality).
- The Prius has a more seamless transition from gas to electric: Hogwash! I felt more jolting and jerking when I drove a Prius than I ever do in the Insight. In fact, sometimes it's so smooth that I'm surprised at what it's doing. There is a screen that can tell you what the electric motor and gas engine are doing at all times. Sometimes it changes mode several times in a 10 second interval. There about 6 modes/combinations of gas/elec with or without charging
- Diesels are better: I think diesels are great too, but their fuel is more expensive now and unfortunately they are being severely restricted in the U.S. and elsewhere
- Uncomfortable seats: I'm very comfortable in mine. Of course I was fine with both my Fits as well. The driver's seat has everything but lumbar adjustment (height adjust, back/forth, recline, dead-pedal, armrest, and tilt/telescope wheel). I can understand that an extremely tall or fat person might not like it. (Then buy an Escalade!)
- Hybrids are stupid/wasteful technology: I agree with him about Hydrogen being the best future propulsion source, but it will take a long while. Hybrid technology can stretch our oil economy much further as an interim technology.
Everyone here knows what a great, fun, high-quality car the Fit is.
I'm telling you, this Insight has a good mix of the Fits qualities and some different strengths: fun to drive, excellent fuel economy, quiet, comfortable, smooth and damn attractive.
I've gotten nothing but compliments on the car today at work. 1 co-worker immediately wanted to ride in it and drive it. It was fun to see him excited about it. Another co-worker (who just bought a Prius for his wife) wanted to ride in it and loved it.
When I came out to drive home today, there were 4 co-workers standing around my car saying they loved the looks. I think some of them didn't even know it was a hybrid. I guess I'll be giving some rides tomorrow. ;-)
Here it is:
Last edited by jrlnc; 05-18-2009 at 08:57 PM.
#9
05-18-2009, 07:48 PM
he needs to stick to complaining about how Lamborghinis are too easy to drive.
"so if you want to buy a car with good fuel economy, buy a bmw m3, not a prius"
however, in a different review, he did point out that nickel in the prius's battery is mined in canada, shipped to europe for processing, shipped to china to assemble, and then shipped to japan to be installed into the car. nice carbon footprint....
uh, of course its slow, its a hybrid...
"so if you want to buy a car with good fuel economy, buy a bmw m3, not a prius"
however, in a different review, he did point out that nickel in the prius's battery is mined in canada, shipped to europe for processing, shipped to china to assemble, and then shipped to japan to be installed into the car. nice carbon footprint....
uh, of course its slow, its a hybrid...
#10
05-18-2009, 11:16 PM
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Fort St John, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 929
i drove the new insight and i liked it, good ride quality and everything typical honda. just wasnt as peppy as the fit i found ;)
#11
05-19-2009, 10:54 AM
I tend to believe that when a review turns into an all out bitch-fest like this one, usually the reviewer just hates the product and nothing it could do would make him like it.
Reviews like this one help me dismiss the points it makes immediately. I'm actually amazed that a jounalist would write such and unconstructive article.
Reviews like this one help me dismiss the points it makes immediately. I'm actually amazed that a jounalist would write such and unconstructive article.
#12
05-19-2009, 12:06 PM
Just did a five minute research by googling Jeremy Clarkson 's credibility and easily find that he is an evironmental hater: Here is what environmental graffiti wrote:
"Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson has never exactly been an advocate of environmental issues, once saying “There will be no tree, leaf, lawn or peat bog that I won’t drive over.” His latest stunt, however, was even more of an environmental disaster than usual; driving a jeep of the ecologically delicate Makgadikgadi salt pans, one of the world’s remaining pristine wildernesses."
Reading a little bit more about this guy and you realise that he doesnt like any Honda cars - he even dis the Civic Type R =\
Anyway, this guy has no credibility imo. The only thing that he considers as a car is prolly the lambo =.='
*Note* Wiki The Sunday Times and turns out that its similar to The National Inquirer we have in Canada -Its full of BS. They even have "exclusive coverage" on alien encounters.... exclusive because its fake~
"Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson has never exactly been an advocate of environmental issues, once saying “There will be no tree, leaf, lawn or peat bog that I won’t drive over.” His latest stunt, however, was even more of an environmental disaster than usual; driving a jeep of the ecologically delicate Makgadikgadi salt pans, one of the world’s remaining pristine wildernesses."
Reading a little bit more about this guy and you realise that he doesnt like any Honda cars - he even dis the Civic Type R =\
Anyway, this guy has no credibility imo. The only thing that he considers as a car is prolly the lambo =.='
*Note* Wiki The Sunday Times and turns out that its similar to The National Inquirer we have in Canada -Its full of BS. They even have "exclusive coverage" on alien encounters.... exclusive because its fake~
Last edited by Guinness; 05-19-2009 at 12:10 PM.
#13
05-19-2009, 01:21 PM
jeremy clarkson? the same clarkson that says all americans are bulbous/fat/obese/pot-belly folk who don't know how to engineer a good car if our lives depended on it??
this jeremy clarkson?>>
kthnxbye
this jeremy clarkson?>>
kthnxbye
#15
05-19-2009, 02:53 PM
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bay Area/Central Coast, CA
Posts: 777
i do enjoy top gear on occasion.
and the old insight was a 5speed, yeah?
anyways, i'd still drive an insight over a prius. although i heard toyota is lowering the price to compete.
and the old insight was a 5speed, yeah?
anyways, i'd still drive an insight over a prius. although i heard toyota is lowering the price to compete.
#16
05-19-2009, 03:01 PM
That was the stupidist and most childish ****ing review I've ever read in my life. What an asshat.
#17
05-19-2009, 05:00 PM
lol i actually like jeremy!
and for those who think he is a honda hater...mmm not really. he is a huge fan of the ep3 type r. he just does not like the new one.
but i agree, his claims are a little extreme. aside from more road noise compared to the new prius, most reviews of the insight have been very favorable.
had the insight come out when before the prius got redesigned, there would be more to love. (edmunds compared the two, the insight won. it lost against the newer prius though, but they still preferred it in many regards.)
if he thinks the insight is that bad, he should try driving a prius. (one other than the current model. and even then, the insight is more engaging.)
and for those who think he is a honda hater...mmm not really. he is a huge fan of the ep3 type r. he just does not like the new one.
but i agree, his claims are a little extreme. aside from more road noise compared to the new prius, most reviews of the insight have been very favorable.
had the insight come out when before the prius got redesigned, there would be more to love. (edmunds compared the two, the insight won. it lost against the newer prius though, but they still preferred it in many regards.)
if he thinks the insight is that bad, he should try driving a prius. (one other than the current model. and even then, the insight is more engaging.)
#19
05-19-2009, 05:10 PM
Take this review for what it is. The author is an auto enthusiast, not a fan of small cars in general. He's a fan of speed/Brake Horse Power etc, fuel economy is not near the top of his list, and he rips on them liberally. Top Gear is a great show imho, and he's very entertaining, but if you're looking for a favorable review on a small car (not to mention a hybrid) he's not your guy.
For what it's worth I believe his mom drives (or drove) a Jazz in the UK. There are videos out there with the three host's moms testing vehicles (Renault Modus, Honda Jazz and Peugeot 1007). The Jazz won their test btw.
For what it's worth I believe his mom drives (or drove) a Jazz in the UK. There are videos out there with the three host's moms testing vehicles (Renault Modus, Honda Jazz and Peugeot 1007). The Jazz won their test btw.
#20
05-19-2009, 06:03 PM
Not every car is a sports car and if you expected that from Honda's Insight you are foolishly wrong.
I seriously doubt that when an automotive manufacturer is going through the several process of development to produce a fuel efficient commuter car that their target audience is die hard sports car fans.
Keep spewin' your hate because within the first half of the review you lost my interest. It was narrow minded and it reminded me of a whiny rich kid who didn't get his way.
This guy is trying to play Half Life 2 on a net book and slamming it for not doing it very well.
Can someone get this guy laid? He sounds misserable.
I seriously doubt that when an automotive manufacturer is going through the several process of development to produce a fuel efficient commuter car that their target audience is die hard sports car fans.
Keep spewin' your hate because within the first half of the review you lost my interest. It was narrow minded and it reminded me of a whiny rich kid who didn't get his way.
This guy is trying to play Half Life 2 on a net book and slamming it for not doing it very well.
Can someone get this guy laid? He sounds misserable.