Just found the car Im trading in my fit for...
#21
hahaha I'm pretty sure I'm keeping the Fit for a long long time. I had a Del Sol before this, come on. I enjoy the quirky funky cars. I'm not worried about my car helping me get laid. I could drive a Geo and still get laid...
#22
Take Two of Me & Don't Call in the Morning
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Truth is, if you're not getting some, it's your fault...not the car's lol
But 'chea....back on topic:
Those genesis coupes are pretty nice. I still like my fit better though.
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#23
But in reality, many people buy vehicles based on sex appeal. Working for Aston Martin, Jaguar, and Land Rover, most rich people buy vehicles to keep their existing pussy happy. My GF puts 75% of the miles on MY fit. She likes the car more than I do. It doesn't get me any extra pussy tho :( Actually since I spoiled the GF she puts out less.
I have 3 super clean Hondas, and none of them got me 1/20th the pussy that my old 1974 Datsun PL620 pickup or my 1993 hyundai elantra got me. It was like if a girl saw my Datsun or Hyundai, their panties were comin off and they are gettin nailed in the truck bed or the back seat. Even my 600RR, which one would think is an UBER pussy magnet, gets a lot of looks and compliments but its harder to have sex on the back seat :) I'm really wishing I didn't donate my hyundai, the windows were BLACK BLACK BLACK, and you could open the sunroof so the windows didn't fog up as much, or if you were driving you could put the chick's head out the roof and look over her left shoulder to see the road. Backroads with all the extra gear changes made it more of a skill sport
#24
rofl I never had sex in my Fit. I only did it in one of the 4 cars I owned, the 95 Civic coupe lol. It would be too easy in the fit...take off the front headrests and push them as far forward as possible and fold forward. Fold the backseats flat. There, you have enough room to friggin lay damn near flat depending on how tall you are.
And bikes are instant panty-droppers. If my gf is in the car and she hears a bike, she'll twist her neck 180 degrees and just STARE until it's out of sight. Makes me all uncomfortable lol I need a Ninja...
And bikes are instant panty-droppers. If my gf is in the car and she hears a bike, she'll twist her neck 180 degrees and just STARE until it's out of sight. Makes me all uncomfortable lol I need a Ninja...
#25
Hella people break necks for a nice bike. I took my gf for a ride a while back, and a dude in a pickup truck was staring at the bike through a whole left turn and he hit the curb and blew out his tire, hahaha. It was great. And your gf would totally hear my bike comin. You can hear my carbon fiber cone yoshi RS-5 exhaust for days, especially if you shift right near redline it ignites unburned fuel with a nice lil sonic boom and flame out the back. It just sounds like an orgasm ready to happen. But in reality, as much as girls like bikes, they are scared to death of them. My GF is pretty ballsy. She has ridden wheelies and done speeds I don't even want to admit driving on a public forum. Always ride with full gear :)
#28
The new Toyota. They are making the cars a lil more boring every year. A lil bigger, a lil less mileage. IMO honda peaked in 2000. They had a great lookin Si civic coupe with B16, Great lookin Accord coupe and sedan, They had the highest MPG available with the insight, you could buy an HX civic and get 40mpg no problem, and had the best sports coupe with the then new S2000. Plus, they had Acura with coupes, like the NSX, Integra, and the original TSX came out. Now acura has the ass lookin Shield on the front of everything, and there are no acura coupes, and all of the new hondas are turning into boring bubbles. The civic looks weaksauce, the new fit doesn't even look as good as the one it replaces, to get the same mileage as an HX, you have to buy a hybrid that is 7-8k more in price tag, and you have to replace its battery after 150-200k miles, instead of just a timing belt at 105. And the Pilot and ridgeline look like butt ugly tonka toys. They have gotten fat and obiese and have forgotten the market that made them what they were always great at: putting high power per liter engines in COMPACT, lightweight bodies. In 2000 you could buy a bottom level hatch right around 2000lb curb weight, and now even a dx coupe is 2600lbs. The average fuel consumption has gone up substantially for honda in the last 9 years. The accord coupe in 00 you could get just at 3000lbs for 16,495 dollars for lx. Now an LX is more than 200lbs heavier and over 6k dollars more expensive. Plus they had the h22 powered prelude with 200hp 4 banger with good fuel economy. I could go on for days. They easily could have gotten similar or better mileage in the fit with a 140-160hp engine, it would have been more drivable, with just as much utility. And they are ignoring the tuner market substantially. The old civics, accords, del sols, preludes, you name it, were all substantially easier to do mods without the ECU wiggin out. imma end my rant because I could waste a day on it
#29
couldn't agree more! good post.
but i will respectfully disagree about what a swapped k 20 fit is to a stock s2k. they are not equals. the s2k has superior balance, even if it ends up not being as fast in a straight line.
#30
The new Toyota. They are making the cars a lil more boring every year. A lil bigger, a lil less mileage. IMO honda peaked in 2000. They had a great lookin Si civic coupe with B16, Great lookin Accord coupe and sedan, They had the highest MPG available with the insight, you could buy an HX civic and get 40mpg no problem, and had the best sports coupe with the then new S2000. Plus, they had Acura with coupes, like the NSX, Integra, and the original TSX came out. Now acura has the ass lookin Shield on the front of everything, and there are no acura coupes, and all of the new hondas are turning into boring bubbles. The civic looks weaksauce, the new fit doesn't even look as good as the one it replaces, to get the same mileage as an HX, you have to buy a hybrid that is 7-8k more in price tag, and you have to replace its battery after 150-200k miles, instead of just a timing belt at 105. And the Pilot and ridgeline look like butt ugly tonka toys. They have gotten fat and obiese and have forgotten the market that made them what they were always great at: putting high power per liter engines in COMPACT, lightweight bodies. In 2000 you could buy a bottom level hatch right around 2000lb curb weight, and now even a dx coupe is 2600lbs. The average fuel consumption has gone up substantially for honda in the last 9 years. The accord coupe in 00 you could get just at 3000lbs for 16,495 dollars for lx. Now an LX is more than 200lbs heavier and over 6k dollars more expensive. Plus they had the h22 powered prelude with 200hp 4 banger with good fuel economy. I could go on for days. They easily could have gotten similar or better mileage in the fit with a 140-160hp engine, it would have been more drivable, with just as much utility. And they are ignoring the tuner market substantially. The old civics, accords, del sols, preludes, you name it, were all substantially easier to do mods without the ECU wiggin out. imma end my rant because I could waste a day on it
but are they the new honda? no. honda is the way it is because they got their act together a LONG Time ago. just because hyundai decided to get on the ball and has done a good job for a couple of years doesnt mean they are going to cement their rep just yet.
and a few other things:
1. the h22 prelude NEVER got good gas mileage. you can give me any 'i got 30mpg on the highway!" story you want, but that will never change the fact that the prelude was/is heavy and had a big high revving 4cylinder NOT tuned for fuel economy. (the car is rated at 20/25 m/t, for a 2001 model. my wifes 08 beetle, about the same weight, and AUTO does 21/29 with .3 litres of displacement more AND an extra cylinder.)
2. an automatic civic hx is rated at 30mpg city/ 36 highway. you can get that mileage, or at least close, with an automatic honda civic and i'm NOT talking about they hybrid. the hybrid will get you 10mpg more in the city and 9 more on the highway.
3. there is NO WAY that a 2000 model year hatch was EVER only 2000lbs. EVER. the lightest honda civic hatch in that year was the cx and it weighed 2359 lbs, which is not that far off from your current dx coupe. in fact the 1999 model year si weighed about that much.
4. the tsx was never a coupe. in fact, the only coupes acura stopped making was the nsx, which is classified more by the fact that its a supercar and not so much by how many doors it has; and the rsx/integra.
thats 2 models. you are making it sound like they made 8 and now they have none.
5. can you even compare an old lx accord to a current lx coupe? the new accord is faster and handles better than any accord previous. its increase in price is not something exclusive to honda, but EVERY car maker does this over time. you think a mazda 6 costs the same that an old 626 did? no.
6. honda still has products in production that offer high hp per litre. the current si and s2k are proof.
7. your right. honda has stopped catering to the tuner crowd. but you know what? not only tuner wannabes buy hondas. if they wanted to be successful as a buisness they had to make their cars competitive. i agree they could maybe do a little bit better, but guess who has the lowest curb weights (roughly) for their new cars overall? honda. The civic si is the only sport compact (with the exception of the mini cooper) that weighs LESS than 3000lbs. in fact...
...8. most of your complaints seem to be about looks. is that what honda fans have come down to? looks? because it was never about that before...why should it be now? looks are subjective and not solid grounds to judge something under. would you write off the old tunable civics if they were ugly in your eyes, but still handled as well and were just as tunable?
#31
I wasn't saying a TSX was a coupe, but that it was just a nice design, but I know what you are saying. I'm just saying Hyundai is totally running Honda's old school philosophy. Make a really good car, Aim it at the target market, and build what they want. Like the Genesis sedan they benchmarked jsut about everyone to beat them all in target categories, and they did. They benchmarked even the mustang for sports coupes for certain standards, and aim to destroy it. And other than beating the benchmarks, the reliability would surprise even the harshest slanted H hater. And its a big shove in the right direction which the other car manufacturers should follow.
I'm not sayin hyundai is better than honda, I turn as many people as possible into Honda people. Everyone in my family has at least one honda, and between just my mom dad and sister and myself, we currently own 4 honda cars my 00 accord, 08 fit, sisters 98exl accord, moms 03 exl accord, and 2 600rrs, a shadow, a street legal 70, and a 1968 305cc scrambler. And of my lil bro's 2 eg's his 93cx H22 got 40mpg if you could ever keep from burning the tires out all the time, which was identical to the d15 that came in it, mainly because it has so much power you could drive in a high gear and just roll on it would still haul. and the 93 was when they were 2100lbs. check it out. Just sayin they can hold their own against like camry and stuff but just gotten chunky. They have overgrown the fundamentals.
Basically, the point is hyundai is going back to the fundamentals, and making a product to please the target market, and all of the models they are offering have specific targets. Many of them are consumer reports top picks even. I wish honda designed their cars more like their bikes, minimalist with as much technology to make it feel more direct, but not seperating you from the raw machine. I don't want to drive an iPhone ya know.
I'm not sayin hyundai is better than honda, I turn as many people as possible into Honda people. Everyone in my family has at least one honda, and between just my mom dad and sister and myself, we currently own 4 honda cars my 00 accord, 08 fit, sisters 98exl accord, moms 03 exl accord, and 2 600rrs, a shadow, a street legal 70, and a 1968 305cc scrambler. And of my lil bro's 2 eg's his 93cx H22 got 40mpg if you could ever keep from burning the tires out all the time, which was identical to the d15 that came in it, mainly because it has so much power you could drive in a high gear and just roll on it would still haul. and the 93 was when they were 2100lbs. check it out. Just sayin they can hold their own against like camry and stuff but just gotten chunky. They have overgrown the fundamentals.
Basically, the point is hyundai is going back to the fundamentals, and making a product to please the target market, and all of the models they are offering have specific targets. Many of them are consumer reports top picks even. I wish honda designed their cars more like their bikes, minimalist with as much technology to make it feel more direct, but not seperating you from the raw machine. I don't want to drive an iPhone ya know.
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#32
Thrill rides are for amusement parks.
I do love the cars. But when the guy spends more time with the car than he does with me, there's a problem. When he continually maintains the vehicle for optimal performance and does nothing for the relationship, there's a problem.
Fast forward many years, and the same guy is doing the same thing. Puttering with his cars and putting his money into transportation or other thrill seeker things, when the house needs repair. Bills are due. Kids are hungry. Wife is unhappy.
Everyone ages (if they are lucky). And if you look at older folks in their 80's, can you tell who the hottie is? Probably not by just looking. It's going to be in personality and responsibility that will still be shining through no matter what horrible things happen on the outside. LOL!
Get a good looking mate who's into the sex and is otherwise an airhead, you have just an airhead that looks like a deflated balloon when you're all 80.
#34
Excellent points. I have infinitely more respect for the guy that uses the head on his shoulders. The logic and reason and safety and responsibility. And I had to learn this for myself by dating car guys. And by finding out that hot cars really suck, because people (guys) get the wrong impression depending on what a person drives.
Thrill rides are for amusement parks.
I do love the cars. But when the guy spends more time with the car than he does with me, there's a problem. When he continually maintains the vehicle for optimal performance and does nothing for the relationship, there's a problem.
Fast forward many years, and the same guy is doing the same thing. Puttering with his cars and putting his money into transportation or other thrill seeker things, when the house needs repair. Bills are due. Kids are hungry. Wife is unhappy.
Everyone ages (if they are lucky). And if you look at older folks in their 80's, can you tell who the hottie is? Probably not by just looking. It's going to be in personality and responsibility that will still be shining through no matter what horrible things happen on the outside. LOL!
Get a good looking mate who's into the sex and is otherwise an airhead, you have just an airhead that looks like a deflated balloon when you're all 80.
Thrill rides are for amusement parks.
I do love the cars. But when the guy spends more time with the car than he does with me, there's a problem. When he continually maintains the vehicle for optimal performance and does nothing for the relationship, there's a problem.
Fast forward many years, and the same guy is doing the same thing. Puttering with his cars and putting his money into transportation or other thrill seeker things, when the house needs repair. Bills are due. Kids are hungry. Wife is unhappy.
Everyone ages (if they are lucky). And if you look at older folks in their 80's, can you tell who the hottie is? Probably not by just looking. It's going to be in personality and responsibility that will still be shining through no matter what horrible things happen on the outside. LOL!
Get a good looking mate who's into the sex and is otherwise an airhead, you have just an airhead that looks like a deflated balloon when you're all 80.
#35
I wasn't saying a TSX was a coupe, but that it was just a nice design, but I know what you are saying. I'm just saying Hyundai is totally running Honda's old school philosophy. Make a really good car, Aim it at the target market, and build what they want. Like the Genesis sedan they benchmarked jsut about everyone to beat them all in target categories, and they did. They benchmarked even the mustang for sports coupes for certain standards, and aim to destroy it. And other than beating the benchmarks, the reliability would surprise even the harshest slanted H hater. And its a big shove in the right direction which the other car manufacturers should follow.
I'm not sayin hyundai is better than honda, I turn as many people as possible into Honda people. Everyone in my family has at least one honda, and between just my mom dad and sister and myself, we currently own 4 honda cars my 00 accord, 08 fit, sisters 98exl accord, moms 03 exl accord, and 2 600rrs, a shadow, a street legal 70, and a 1968 305cc scrambler. And of my lil bro's 2 eg's his 93cx H22 got 40mpg if you could ever keep from burning the tires out all the time, which was identical to the d15 that came in it, mainly because it has so much power you could drive in a high gear and just roll on it would still haul. and the 93 was when they were 2100lbs. check it out. Just sayin they can hold their own against like camry and stuff but just gotten chunky. They have overgrown the fundamentals.
Basically, the point is hyundai is going back to the fundamentals, and making a product to please the target market, and all of the models they are offering have specific targets. Many of them are consumer reports top picks even. I wish honda designed their cars more like their bikes, minimalist with as much technology to make it feel more direct, but not seperating you from the raw machine. I don't want to drive an iPhone ya know.
I'm not sayin hyundai is better than honda, I turn as many people as possible into Honda people. Everyone in my family has at least one honda, and between just my mom dad and sister and myself, we currently own 4 honda cars my 00 accord, 08 fit, sisters 98exl accord, moms 03 exl accord, and 2 600rrs, a shadow, a street legal 70, and a 1968 305cc scrambler. And of my lil bro's 2 eg's his 93cx H22 got 40mpg if you could ever keep from burning the tires out all the time, which was identical to the d15 that came in it, mainly because it has so much power you could drive in a high gear and just roll on it would still haul. and the 93 was when they were 2100lbs. check it out. Just sayin they can hold their own against like camry and stuff but just gotten chunky. They have overgrown the fundamentals.
Basically, the point is hyundai is going back to the fundamentals, and making a product to please the target market, and all of the models they are offering have specific targets. Many of them are consumer reports top picks even. I wish honda designed their cars more like their bikes, minimalist with as much technology to make it feel more direct, but not seperating you from the raw machine. I don't want to drive an iPhone ya know.
i still disagree with you. if you think current hondas are portly, look at the current offerings from hyundai. they are just as heavy if not heavier. and if you read reviews, pretty much every honda model is more involving to drive than the hyundai it competes against. seems like all this 'i phone' techonolgy is getting the job done. they are not over-burdened with technology either. and my point of staying competative still stands.
i still dont understand how honda has overgrown their fundamentals. moving with the times is a different matter and to survive they have to do it. sure they could build a 2000 lbs civic again. will it be safe? no. will people opt for the bigger,slower, heavier elantra? yes. and thats the whole point. honda is still making really good cars, aiming them at a particular market and building what that market desires. just because you don't personally like the way some of these models LOOK doesn't make them a bad car, and i think that deep down thats your only real issue with modern hondas: you don't like they way they look. too bad. it really must because i've refuted all the other points.
how is honda not making vehicles for specific target markets by the way? i ask because you said hyundai does...but made it seem like honda DOESN'T, when they clearly do?
and a 93 civic hatch is not the 2000 year model, and thats what we were discussing. i'm aware of the weights, the eg's were made with special weight saving metals, hence why some of them are lighter than late model ef's.
40mpg still sounds like a stretch, even swapped in an eg hatch, but at least its more belivable. but that still isn't enough to call an h series 'fuel efficient'. swaps don't count, because thats not the car it was originally in. i'm sure you could get 40mpg off a k24 if you stuck it in a crx, but thats hardly fair or conclusive.
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#36
yah, and i think toyota's the new GM. they're going to trip over themselves if they keep up their crappy lineup.
this tread is funny to read, btw. :)
this tread is funny to read, btw. :)
#37
Well, I obviously shouldn't try to make any more points because you like to disagree to just disagree. There are always pricks on the internet like that. Especially the ones that have titles that say "spends life on fitfreak" So obviously you can't say anything against the precious honda.
Honda's target is EVERYONE, which is why they have to make the cars so bland nowadays. Try to please too many people. I'm not sayin they don't make a good product, or I wouldn't own so many damned hondas. I can go buy you a box of tampons if it will stop the bleeding, but chances are you just need a douche. Is it really so alien to you that hyundai is copying Honda or that they are copying honda so well it scares you. I hope your stick removal procedure goes well, and it doesn't leave too many splinters in your anus. Godspeed on the recovery
Honda's target is EVERYONE, which is why they have to make the cars so bland nowadays. Try to please too many people. I'm not sayin they don't make a good product, or I wouldn't own so many damned hondas. I can go buy you a box of tampons if it will stop the bleeding, but chances are you just need a douche. Is it really so alien to you that hyundai is copying Honda or that they are copying honda so well it scares you. I hope your stick removal procedure goes well, and it doesn't leave too many splinters in your anus. Godspeed on the recovery
#39
hahahaha, naw, you're cool. And I don't think anyone is quite bad enough to be called the next GM. Thats just mean, Toyota's lineup may not be super exciting, but at least they don't start falling apart as soon as you drive it off the lot.
#40
Well, I obviously shouldn't try to make any more points because you like to disagree to just disagree. There are always pricks on the internet like that. Especially the ones that have titles that say "spends life on fitfreak" So obviously you can't say anything against the precious honda.
Honda's target is EVERYONE, which is why they have to make the cars so bland nowadays. Try to please too many people. I'm not sayin they don't make a good product, or I wouldn't own so many damned hondas. I can go buy you a box of tampons if it will stop the bleeding, but chances are you just need a douche. Is it really so alien to you that hyundai is copying Honda or that they are copying honda so well it scares you. I hope your stick removal procedure goes well, and it doesn't leave too many splinters in your anus. Godspeed on the recovery
Honda's target is EVERYONE, which is why they have to make the cars so bland nowadays. Try to please too many people. I'm not sayin they don't make a good product, or I wouldn't own so many damned hondas. I can go buy you a box of tampons if it will stop the bleeding, but chances are you just need a douche. Is it really so alien to you that hyundai is copying Honda or that they are copying honda so well it scares you. I hope your stick removal procedure goes well, and it doesn't leave too many splinters in your anus. Godspeed on the recovery
whoa! i'm sorry for the ownage, i do get carried away sometimes.
but even guys like me who like to 'disagree' can keep it personable and not resort to the classic 'you must be jerk so i'll attack you as a person' route.
did you not forget that i agreed with you that hyundai has come a long way? i was simply pointing out that your other complaints with regards to honda are pretty much un-based. they target everyone? so thats why their cars are bland? its just funny to read stuff like that when the car company you are playing up (hyundai) is not exactly known for 'exciting' vehicles. its just too much contradiction. but if you are getting your feelings hurt i guess i can stop? it was never an attack on YOU, just trying to adress the question marks that kept popping up when i was reading your posts.