In article <B-ydnW5qSbK0thTfRVn-pw@comcast.com>, "R. P."
<r_pol12gar@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>
> Rudy

I have read some articles in car magazines on this subject. They are very
similar and even have some of the same parts. In most cases, the Acura
models are slightly better than the Accord models.

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"Guardsman" <spear@net.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>>>> Seth writes:
>
> s> I though the TSX was the Euro Accord Sedan and the RSX was the Coupe?
>
> Not quite. Take a look at the Japanese lineup:
>
> http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/
>
> You can put your mouse over the pictures to get the English link
> names. I think the current mapping goes somewhat like this:
>
> Japan -> US
> -----------------------------
> Honda Integra -> Acura RSX
> Honda Accord -> Acura TSX
> Honda Inspire -> Honda Accord
> Honda Legend -> Acura RL
> Honda MDX -> Acura MDX
> Honda NSX -> Acura NSX
>
> I think the Acura TL has no direct Honda equivalent. Also, it's not
> an exact mapping since there are variations in engines and interiors.

OK, so it looks like I was right about the TSX=Accord Sedan.

Here in the USA we don't have a Honda Integra. Maybe I was right (in
regards to USA models) about the RSX being the same as our Accord Coupe.

 

MAT wrote:
> "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2fKdndeN9dZXChffRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> wrote:
>
>
>>which they should have offered in the USA. especially on the hatchback
>>model. a luxury hatch with an acura engine? sweet!
>
>
> Sounds like the Si, pretty nice interior with the k20a3, only Civic with a k
> series engine which was essentially the Acura RSX powerplant. People just
> don't get this car, it's really pretty cool on so many levels.
>
>
i didnt really get it myself. yes, its nice. definately not cheap, made
in england, and i still havent gotten used to the edgy styling on all
the latest gen civics.

 

>>>>> Seth writes:

s> I though the TSX was the Euro Accord Sedan and the RSX was the Coupe?

Not quite. Take a look at the Japanese lineup:

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/

You can put your mouse over the pictures to get the English link
names. I think the current mapping goes somewhat like this:

Japan -> US
-----------------------------
Honda Integra -> Acura RSX
Honda Accord -> Acura TSX
Honda Inspire -> Honda Accord
Honda Legend -> Acura RL
Honda MDX -> Acura MDX
Honda NSX -> Acura NSX

I think the Acura TL has no direct Honda equivalent. Also, it's not
an exact mapping since there are variations in engines and interiors.
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SoCalMike wrote:

>> Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
>> the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
>> different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
>> an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
>> in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For
>
> which they should have offered in the USA. especially on the hatchback
> model. a luxury hatch with an acura engine? sweet!

The EL is only available as a 4-door sedan with the 127-hp VTEC engine.

 

"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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wrote:

>
> which they should have offered in the USA. especially on the hatchback
> model. a luxury hatch with an acura engine? sweet!

Sounds like the Si, pretty nice interior with the k20a3, only Civic with a k
series engine which was essentially the Acura RSX powerplant. People just
don't get this car, it's really pretty cool on so many levels.

 

Seth wrote:
>
> I though the TSX was the Euro Accord Sedan and the RSX was the Coupe?

yup. i think.

and the vigor was a 5 cylinder euro accord. i think.

 

y_p_w wrote:
>
>
> R. P. wrote:
>
>> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
>> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
>> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
>> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>
>
> There was a time when the Integra was based on an older Civic
> platform. The Acura versions always had a stiffer suspension and
> the engine choices were always more powerful (at least until the
> '98 Civic Si). There was no Acura equivalent for the del Sol.
>
> Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
> the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
> different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
> an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
> in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For

which they should have offered in the USA. especially on the hatchback
model. a luxury hatch with an acura engine? sweet!

> the most part the Acura "equivalent" always offered more power
> and/or better handling for the premium price.
>
> Honda didn't play the game that Toyota did with Lexus, or that
> Nissan did with Infiniti. The Lexus ES300 had the same V6 that
> went into a Camry. The LX470 is pretty much a Land Cruiser (which
> is plenty luxurious). Nissan is rebadging some of their cars like
> GM would do with Cadillac.

which is one reason they arent exactly setting sales records. some, like
the lexus IS300 are otherwise only sold in japan, and are really nice cars.

is there a lexus equivalent to the toyota avalon? just curious. its
always been kind of an "odd duck", being the fanciest toyota in a
near-lexus price range.
>
> I used to buy some basic parts for my '95 Integra GS-R at a Honda
> dealer. This would be things like bolts, seals, washers, filters,
> etc. However - the Acura nameplate at least almost always means
> something different.

 

<jmattis@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1116307607.500497.72850@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>
> R. P. wrote:
>> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX
> and
>> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
>> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over
> the
>> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>>
>> Rudy
>
> Acura TL is the only one similar to any Honda car, and it is basically
> a fancy Accord. $10,000 extra, more or less, over what you can
> negotiate an EX V-6 for. Worth it? Depends on you. How badly do you
> want to impress your neighbors? How badly do you want a car made in
> Japan? How small a trunk can you tolerate? What is your tolerance for
> expensive replacement tires? As the man said, if you have to ask, you
> probably can't afford it. I could, but still chose the 2004 EX V-6.
> Fine car.

I though the TSX was the Euro Accord Sedan and the RSX was the Coupe?

 

In article <1Vfie.1819$X92.1175@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>, y_p_w
<y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote:

> R. P. wrote:
> > I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
> > EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> > price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
> > Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>
> There was a time when the Integra was based on an older Civic
> platform. The Acura versions always had a stiffer suspension and
> the engine choices were always more powerful (at least until the
> '98 Civic Si). There was no Acura equivalent for the del Sol.
>
> Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
> the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
> different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
> an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
> in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For
> the most part the Acura "equivalent" always offered more power
> and/or better handling for the premium price.
>
> Honda didn't play the game that Toyota did with Lexus, or that
> Nissan did with Infiniti. The Lexus ES300 had the same V6 that
> went into a Camry. The LX470 is pretty much a Land Cruiser (which
> is plenty luxurious). Nissan is rebadging some of their cars like
> GM would do with Cadillac.
>
> I used to buy some basic parts for my '95 Integra GS-R at a Honda
> dealer. This would be things like bolts, seals, washers, filters,
> etc. However - the Acura nameplate at least almost always means
> something different.

Hello,
You made some great points. I just wanted to add that many of the same
engines used in Acura cars are eventually used in Honda cars. For example,
I own a 1999 Accord (4 cyld.). I was under the false impression that the
type of engine in car was first used in the 1998 Accord (4 cyld.). I later
found out the identical type engine in my 1999 Accord was first used in
the 1996 Acura CL.
Jason

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R. P. wrote:
> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?

There was a time when the Integra was based on an older Civic
platform. The Acura versions always had a stiffer suspension and
the engine choices were always more powerful (at least until the
'98 Civic Si). There was no Acura equivalent for the del Sol.

Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For
the most part the Acura "equivalent" always offered more power
and/or better handling for the premium price.

Honda didn't play the game that Toyota did with Lexus, or that
Nissan did with Infiniti. The Lexus ES300 had the same V6 that
went into a Camry. The LX470 is pretty much a Land Cruiser (which
is plenty luxurious). Nissan is rebadging some of their cars like
GM would do with Cadillac.

I used to buy some basic parts for my '95 Integra GS-R at a Honda
dealer. This would be things like bolts, seals, washers, filters,
etc. However - the Acura nameplate at least almost always means
something different.

 

R. P. wrote:
> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX
and
> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over
the
> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>
> Rudy

Acura TL is the only one similar to any Honda car, and it is basically
a fancy Accord. $10,000 extra, more or less, over what you can
negotiate an EX V-6 for. Worth it? Depends on you. How badly do you
want to impress your neighbors? How badly do you want a car made in
Japan? How small a trunk can you tolerate? What is your tolerance for
expensive replacement tires? As the man said, if you have to ask, you
probably can't afford it. I could, but still chose the 2004 EX V-6.
Fine car.

 

R. P. wrote:
> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>
> Rudy


in europe, there is no such thing as acura- theyre all branded as honda.

 

I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?

Rudy

 

Seth wrote:

> Here in the USA we don't have a Honda Integra. Maybe I was right (in
> regards to USA models) about the RSX being the same as our Accord Coupe.

I don't think so. The RSX is a fair bit smaller than the Accord Coupe.

 

"S.S." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Seth wrote:
>
>> Here in the USA we don't have a Honda Integra. Maybe I was right (in
>> regards to USA models) about the RSX being the same as our Accord Coupe.
>
> I don't think so. The RSX is a fair bit smaller than the Accord Coupe.

Someone emailed me saying it is based on the Civic platform.

 

Jason wrote:
> In article <1Vfie.1819$X92.1175@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
y_p_w
> <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > R. P. wrote:
> > > I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord
LX and
> > > EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder
what
> > > price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model
over the
> > > Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
> >
> > There was a time when the Integra was based on an older Civic
> > platform. The Acura versions always had a stiffer suspension and
> > the engine choices were always more powerful (at least until the
> > '98 Civic Si). There was no Acura equivalent for the del Sol.
> >
> > Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
> > the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
> > different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
> > an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
> > in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For
> > the most part the Acura "equivalent" always offered more power
> > and/or better handling for the premium price.
> >
> > Honda didn't play the game that Toyota did with Lexus, or that
> > Nissan did with Infiniti. The Lexus ES300 had the same V6 that
> > went into a Camry. The LX470 is pretty much a Land Cruiser (which
> > is plenty luxurious). Nissan is rebadging some of their cars like
> > GM would do with Cadillac.
> >
> > I used to buy some basic parts for my '95 Integra GS-R at a Honda
> > dealer. This would be things like bolts, seals, washers, filters,
> > etc. However - the Acura nameplate at least almost always means
> > something different.
>
> Hello,
> You made some great points. I just wanted to add that many of the
same
> engines used in Acura cars are eventually used in Honda cars. For
example,
> I own a 1999 Accord (4 cyld.). I was under the false impression that
the
> type of engine in car was first used in the 1998 Accord (4 cyld.). I
later
> found out the identical type engine in my 1999 Accord was first used
in
> the 1996 Acura CL.
> Jason

Now that I think of it, they did overlap that particular 2.2L inline
4 - selling the same engine in the 2.2CL and the Accord. However -
they had a considerably different 3.0 L V6 for the CL. I think that
CL may have also had an Acura specific valve cover. All Acura cars
had Honda on the engine block for some time.

I believe that CL was just a stopgap, but not what Toyota and Nissan
keep on doing to this day.