Xb2? What To Do!!!
#41
Haha this is getting heated! A friend of mine drives a first gen XB and I really like it. As for the new Scions I like the fact that you can get tons of TRD and aftermarket goodies for the 2007's right from the dealership. I wish Honda made some more performance parts to compete on that front. We should be able to buy HFP strut bars and braces, bigger wheels and ICE components :) Well I guess Honda isn't really going for the young adult demographic like Toyota is?
I mean wtf you can get TV's in the headrests right from scion!! :p
I mean wtf you can get TV's in the headrests right from scion!! :p
As far as TRD's after market support, im going to counter my Toyota FTW argument lol.
TRD in the late 80's to mid 90's had a lot more available as far as performance parts then they do today (looking at a catalog of parts for a AW11 as apposed to what was available for ZZW30 is kinda of sad)
#43
Haha this is getting heated! A friend of mine drives a first gen XB and I really like it. As for the new Scions I like the fact that you can get tons of TRD and aftermarket goodies for the 2007's right from the dealership. I wish Honda made some more performance parts to compete on that front. We should be able to buy HFP strut bars and braces, bigger wheels and ICE components :) Well I guess Honda isn't really going for the young adult demographic like Toyota is?
I mean wtf you can get TV's in the headrests right from scion!! :p
I mean wtf you can get TV's in the headrests right from scion!! :p
The really funny part about Toyota gunning for young adults with Scion is that the vast majority of them that I see are being driven by adults over 60. I think the bulk of the options and parts offered are a joke, and I would not be surprised if they do not sell particularly well. Despite Toyota's desires, people buy Scions because they are a good deal and run well, not because they are cool or customizable.
#44
2. I was under the impression that Toyota was leaving F1 so i left it out...
3. I'll give you the land Yacht, so you win that one. Toyota is supposedly working on a few new sports cars for 08 including a RWD 4cly car under 13k kind of like the AE86. But thats all hearsay until they go into production.
4. You missed my point, hell your so far to the right i think your shooting someone else target. My point behind the Camry/Corolla is that there is still a large community that supports and stands behind Toyota . I don't exactly see AP2's or anything F22c powered in F1
My idea of a car companies soul is the people that stand behind it.
#46
I'm not really trying to argue that the current line up "is not boring" believe me I am not completely blind. What im saying is Toyota owners are find ways to keep the spark alive until Toyota brings back something fun, which they are working on. Maybe i am holding on to sinking ship, but there are still plenty of Aw11 for me to destroy in the mean time.
#47
Nice thread. I've gotta admit - even though this thread's deviated into the merits or lack of Toyota racing, I'm VERY impressed people aren't flaming each other as if we're all in our early teens. And this is a Honda forum, too!
Going back to the original topic, I'm in the same boat of trying to decide between a 2008 xB and a Fit. I've driven the Fit, and I really like it as it brought back great memories of my dad's '90 Civic. However, I've got 3 concerns which the xB feels like it's got covered:
1) Cargo-carrying. I regularly take kids to/from camps and retreats along with their gear - duffel/roller bags, backpacks, laundry, and guitars. While the Fit's got pretty good vertical space, I'm afraid of not being able to cart 3 kids with all their stuff up/down the Santa Cruz mountains.
2) Rear-seat comfort/stability. Sure, the rear seats can recline, but in no way are they laterally supportive. One of my friends drove 4 of us in his Fit to a wedding, and I got the back seat. It was a NIGHTMARE going from turn to turn. I can't imagine what taking road trips would be like, either.
3) Crash-worthiness. While the Fit's got the side curtains, the xB's rear passengers receive side curtains, height and more sheet metal. This came to mind today as I was crossing the Bay Bridge in my brother's Impreza; an SUV nearly side-swiped me when we were getting into the same lane. I can't imagine how that might have turned out if I was driving a Fit.
I'm sure you combine my first two concerns to create a fourth one; carrying cargo & 3 passengers comfortably. Is that even a possibility? Might be so in an xB.
Oh, BTW - I like both in terms of design. the new xB is a bit bulldog-ish/Cars-the-movie-like, but it's got that micro-Hummer appeal to it (although I think placement of the reverse light on the bumper was the stupidest thing conceived).
Going back to the original topic, I'm in the same boat of trying to decide between a 2008 xB and a Fit. I've driven the Fit, and I really like it as it brought back great memories of my dad's '90 Civic. However, I've got 3 concerns which the xB feels like it's got covered:
1) Cargo-carrying. I regularly take kids to/from camps and retreats along with their gear - duffel/roller bags, backpacks, laundry, and guitars. While the Fit's got pretty good vertical space, I'm afraid of not being able to cart 3 kids with all their stuff up/down the Santa Cruz mountains.
2) Rear-seat comfort/stability. Sure, the rear seats can recline, but in no way are they laterally supportive. One of my friends drove 4 of us in his Fit to a wedding, and I got the back seat. It was a NIGHTMARE going from turn to turn. I can't imagine what taking road trips would be like, either.
3) Crash-worthiness. While the Fit's got the side curtains, the xB's rear passengers receive side curtains, height and more sheet metal. This came to mind today as I was crossing the Bay Bridge in my brother's Impreza; an SUV nearly side-swiped me when we were getting into the same lane. I can't imagine how that might have turned out if I was driving a Fit.
I'm sure you combine my first two concerns to create a fourth one; carrying cargo & 3 passengers comfortably. Is that even a possibility? Might be so in an xB.
Oh, BTW - I like both in terms of design. the new xB is a bit bulldog-ish/Cars-the-movie-like, but it's got that micro-Hummer appeal to it (although I think placement of the reverse light on the bumper was the stupidest thing conceived).
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