Honda Fit Flex Fuel Vehicle (FFV)
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09-26-2006 | 01:49 PM
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Honda Fit Flex Fuel Vehicle (FFV)
Only in Brazil so far, but check it out:
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/25/s...em-for-brazil/
With its new flexible-fuel system, Honda believes that it has essentially conquered all the known drawbacks of using ethanol. Problems with cold starts, inconsistent performance, variations in fuel economy and emissions are all addressed with the new system. Designed to operate on fuel grades ranging from E20 all the way up to E100, the Honda FFV system ****yzes the levels of exhaust gas concentration in the exhaust system to estimate what fuel blend is currently in the tank, and then adjusts accordingly. The result, according to Honda, is that its FFVs will have performance and fuel economy ratios that nearly equal those of their gasoline-only engines.
The two prototypes revealed today, a Civic FFV and a Fit FFV, seem to bear this out. The Civic, when running on E100, generates 140PS at 6,200 rpm and 174 Nm of torque at 4,300 rpm. Fill it with an E22 mix and theose numbers only drop to 138 PS and 172 Nm (this torque peak arrives at 5,000 rpm). With the Fit, it's more of the same. On E100, it makes 83PS at 5,700 rpm and 119Nm of torque at 2,800 rpm. On E22, it drops to 80PS and 116 Nm at identical engine speeds.
The two prototypes revealed today, a Civic FFV and a Fit FFV, seem to bear this out. The Civic, when running on E100, generates 140PS at 6,200 rpm and 174 Nm of torque at 4,300 rpm. Fill it with an E22 mix and theose numbers only drop to 138 PS and 172 Nm (this torque peak arrives at 5,000 rpm). With the Fit, it's more of the same. On E100, it makes 83PS at 5,700 rpm and 119Nm of torque at 2,800 rpm. On E22, it drops to 80PS and 116 Nm at identical engine speeds.
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09-28-2006 | 12:35 PM
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Brazil has always been big on alternate fuels. When I was a kid my parents had a Ford Delrey (sp?) that was ethanol based, or some other form of alcohol. I remember getting to school on time in the morning was like a throw of a dice... if it was a cold morning the car would take forever to start, and I had to get out and help push the car to help it start 
That was back in the early 80's, a lot of progress has been made since then. These flex fuel cars allow the use of both gasoline and ethanol, but actual fuel consumption may be more than a purely gasoline or ethanol engine. I read a lot of complaints about other flex cars in Brazil, and many hope Honda can bring a better flex car to the market.
That was back in the early 80's, a lot of progress has been made since then. These flex fuel cars allow the use of both gasoline and ethanol, but actual fuel consumption may be more than a purely gasoline or ethanol engine. I read a lot of complaints about other flex cars in Brazil, and many hope Honda can bring a better flex car to the market.
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