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#21
Like I said before people on springs are high on the placebo effect. They fall into the American thinking that stiffer = sportier thus better.
People who say lowered on stock wheels should never be done are silly. Having aftermarket wheels with stock height will accentuate the wheel gap and it'll look like you went with the discount tire special regardless of what you spent.
Btw I'm lowered with aggressive Aero on stock hubcaps. Come at me.
People who say lowered on stock wheels should never be done are silly. Having aftermarket wheels with stock height will accentuate the wheel gap and it'll look like you went with the discount tire special regardless of what you spent.
Btw I'm lowered with aggressive Aero on stock hubcaps. Come at me.
If yes to BOTH, then find a highway on ramp (or off ramp if you're feeling braver) that doesn't see much traffic (and isn't observed by cops).
Take that ramp as fast as you can, or rather, as comfortable with. Then, swap your springs to the stock and try again. And finally, for back to the lowered springs for the final runs.
If you do indeed have good quality springs, they should allow you to feel more comfortable at higher speeds. Even if your tires are just about done and need replacing, because the effects you feel will still be there. And that is body roll... and the speed at which your tires will start screaming.
#22
Are you lowered on good quality springs. Do you still have your stock springs?
If yes to BOTH, then find a highway on ramp (or off ramp if you're feeling braver) that doesn't see much traffic (and isn't observed by cops).
Take that ramp as fast as you can, or rather, as comfortable with. Then, swap your springs to the stock and try again. And finally, for back to the lowered springs for the final runs.
If you do indeed have good quality springs, they should allow you to feel more comfortable at higher speeds. Even if your tires are just about done and need replacing, because the effects you feel will still be there. And that is body roll... and the speed at which your tires will start screaming.
If yes to BOTH, then find a highway on ramp (or off ramp if you're feeling braver) that doesn't see much traffic (and isn't observed by cops).
Take that ramp as fast as you can, or rather, as comfortable with. Then, swap your springs to the stock and try again. And finally, for back to the lowered springs for the final runs.
If you do indeed have good quality springs, they should allow you to feel more comfortable at higher speeds. Even if your tires are just about done and need replacing, because the effects you feel will still be there. And that is body roll... and the speed at which your tires will start screaming.
Logic that is hard to refute. So if you had quality springs AND lowered the car would be a perfect combo. I mean an F1 car is about an inch from the ground.
I am having a hard time with Mike's post. You say that being lowered is a myth that every body follows then the next sentence you say that it would be foolish to buy expensive wheels a stock height because it accentuates the gap...can you please take a position? which springs do you recommend, OEM or Swifts....coupled with what rims OEM or Aftermarket.....Dunlops or another brand?....I am not being difficult here....I don't think....just say your peace....Are you just saying that lowered on OEM wheels is just fine in your opinion? Frankly that would confirm my position.
Dwayne
Last edited by Dwalbert320; 08-11-2012 at 10:59 PM.
#23
Let me explain:
Lowered on stock wheels, looks nice enough for the time being, unsightly wheel gap reduced, also with some tyres the ride won't be compromised too badly.
Lowered on aftermarket wheels: The best option, also most expensive, and not what you're asking about.
Stock height/stock wheels: Nothing wrong with this.
Stock Height/Aftermarket wheels: Looks silly for aforementioned reasons.
Lowered on stock wheels, looks nice enough for the time being, unsightly wheel gap reduced, also with some tyres the ride won't be compromised too badly.
Lowered on aftermarket wheels: The best option, also most expensive, and not what you're asking about.
Stock height/stock wheels: Nothing wrong with this.
Stock Height/Aftermarket wheels: Looks silly for aforementioned reasons.
#24
my last car, i put aftermarket wheels on before suspension and it handled like crap... just before i sold it i installed springs/shock combo and it made a a massive difference, completely different car (but it also had cusco fr strut bars)
I have learnt know to firstly spend money on quality suspension and wait for wheels (unfortunately my wheels are being built so still waiting)
Honestly, i have driven mine on stock springs, on lowered springs and now coilovers and coilovers>everything
I have learnt know to firstly spend money on quality suspension and wait for wheels (unfortunately my wheels are being built so still waiting)
Honestly, i have driven mine on stock springs, on lowered springs and now coilovers and coilovers>everything
#26
Mike Kojima seems to agree with me:
The Ultimate Handling Guide Part V: The One Unforgivable Sin, Overlowering Your Car
Feel free to google him, he's about as credible as they come.
The Ultimate Handling Guide Part V: The One Unforgivable Sin, Overlowering Your Car
Feel free to google him, he's about as credible as they come.
#30
Looks great, almost makes me like those wheels now. But I went with the stock hubcaps. Diamond racing wheels or these new forged iss wheels in pink are in my fits future
#32
Lots of Miatas get slammmed Fluid MotorUnion Getting Fabel Off - The Lowest Static Car in America?? - YouTube
#36
When you have your lowering springs, and a little more money in the wallet, you'll want to look at these: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/1st-...djuster-2.html
Since many of the available springs are also stiffer, not just lower, the roll isn't necessarily increased, but a roll centre adjuster will correct the incorrect physics associated with the lower height.
Just thought I'd mention this...
Since many of the available springs are also stiffer, not just lower, the roll isn't necessarily increased, but a roll centre adjuster will correct the incorrect physics associated with the lower height.
Just thought I'd mention this...
#39
When you have your lowering springs, and a little more money in the wallet, you'll want to look at these: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/1st-...djuster-2.html
Since many of the available springs are also stiffer, not just lower, the roll isn't necessarily increased, but a roll centre adjuster will correct the incorrect physics associated with the lower height.
Just thought I'd mention this...
Since many of the available springs are also stiffer, not just lower, the roll isn't necessarily increased, but a roll centre adjuster will correct the incorrect physics associated with the lower height.
Just thought I'd mention this...
And just fyi, that's a part for the 1st Gen, while OP has 2nd Gen.
#40
That entirely depends on the amount you lower it. Not all springs dump the car. And you don't know the change in the relationship between the CoG and roll center until you calculate where both actually are, will be, or was. And just like springs, not all cars are designed the same.
And just fyi, that's a part for the 1st Gen, while OP has 2nd Gen.
And just fyi, that's a part for the 1st Gen, while OP has 2nd Gen.