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Old 02-22-2010, 01:57 PM
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Yeah, that's the ticket, cheat your insurance company because you want out of your car loan!! Gee why didn't I think of that...oh, yeah, it's because when I sign a contract I take it seriously and I have more honor than to defraud my insurance company.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:10 PM
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whatever--neither of you are well known enough for many people here to really care what you're pissing contest is about.


I am however interested in this thread. I want to hear more about this hydrolock business. I read the thread from the civic forum, and most posters there call the OP's method shens. (pull spark plugs and spin engine)

Kate, you say you've a lot of experience driving in floods? Why does keeping constant on the gas prevent water from entering the engine? Low speed seems the obvious route to me, but I'd like to know more about the mechanics of it.

I've heard that if you're going to drive through big puddles, your engine should be hot, as opposed to just starting it up.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:16 PM
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I certainly DO NOT feel ANY repsonsibility.

The issue which seems to alude you is personal responsibility.

Vamp knew there was a flood watch and asked me to go shopping anyway. Vamp did not follow instructions and clearly, in this thread, blamed "the local"intelligent professional who can and has driven in countless floods without problem.

Back to personal responsibility. I applaud her for following her dream to volunteer in local politics. However, I and many, are tired the whining about her victim status, as though she were broke because of the recession, something she claims regularly.
She does not take responsibility for her choices.

Re: the car, I would have told everyone, I paniced, ignored advice and let up on the gas. I

Re: unemployement, I would tell everyone, I was broke, but was lucky to fufill a dream. Then I was ask for a dinner invite on Mac & cheese night.

Vamp whines in perpetual victimization and LIES to others blaming everyone and everything, except herself.

That IS THE DIFFERENCE.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KateNotToLate
........ and she quit a high paying job last year to volunteer on a political campaign. ..........
A question if I may


so is this political candidate for big government, big hand outs perchance????
National Hydrolock Insurance? The friend made me do it tax exemption?
Cash for Water Logged Clunkers? Government Subsidized Personal Responsibility?

































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Old 02-22-2010, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KateNotToLate
I certainly DO NOT feel ANY repsonsibility.

The issue which seems to alude you is personal responsibility.

Vamp knew there was a flood watch and asked me to go shopping anyway. Vamp did not follow instructions and clearly, in this thread, blamed "the local"intelligent professional who can and has driven in countless floods without problem.

Back to personal responsibility. I applaud her for following her dream to volunteer in local politics. However, I and many, are tired the whining about her victim status, as though she were broke because of the recession, something she claims regularly.
She does not take responsibility for her choices.

Re: the car, I would have told everyone, I paniced, ignored advice and let up on the gas. I

Re: unemployement, I would tell everyone, I was broke, but was lucky to fufill a dream. Then I was ask for a dinner invite on Mac & cheese night.

Vamp whines in perpetual victimization and LIES to others blaming everyone and everything, except herself.

That IS THE DIFFERENCE.
Not to annoy you further, but your town is known for this victim helplessness...and that lying is OK as long as you get your due....dependency...on government...

I know not ALL people in New Orleans are like that, but before Hurricane Katrina, the proportion was quite high.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:35 PM
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Well, Pits, despite your rude comments, I'll respond to you.

I am a litigation specialist, not a mechanic. I also have no interest in engines.

I have, however, driven in yearly, sometimes 3-4 times a year flash floods since I was fifteen. EVERYONE in nola KNOWS, you drive at a constant slow speed and never ever let up on the gas or you WILL stall and that's it for that day. I owned a civic for 8 years then corolla for 8, then en eclipse for 7, now an Outback. Never one stall, many deep water days.

I drove an eclipse through 2 1/2 feet of water and followed the rules until it stalled ( I was caught in a major flash flood and had no recourse, no high ground, and was trying to out run the waves about to pull me into a canal with a small child, scary), then I pushed it a mile, let it dry a week, changed the air filter and plugs and drove to Philly and Cali, no prob, had it another 3 years. Great traction on ice and snow.

One thing, Vamp told me that non-local mechanics and engine experts stated that exhaust isn't connected to the issue. They can quote anything they like, they are wrong.

LOCAL mechanics and locals KNOW, that as soon as you let up on the gas, a vacuum is created that sucks in water up the tailpipe. Car stalls. Game over.
As long as engine in running with no interruption in pressure on gas pedal, you are good to drive any distance, even with water seeping into the car.

The Honda specialist I called asked what happened. First thing I relayed, she is from Georgia. His response, "shit, she let up on the gas".

He insisted that in 6 inches of water, the adjuster and body expert didn't know shit, the car needed to dry out( it was still pouring days later) and he could fix the car. She refused his $100 inspection, blamed me, then told her family and friends car totaled via Moi. Vamp is quite happy to not have paid off her car note.

The issue isn't local knowledge of flood driving, or engine knowledge, the issue is having concrete between her ears. The other issue is not listening to an experienced local, and instead sitting in a flood BLOGGING to strangers for advice after the fact.
Vamp was looking for consolation that it wasn't her fault. She also could have said, let's leave the car and wait a while before we attempt driving.

The issue is lying to all of you bloggers to assuage her guilt.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:41 PM
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Julienne,

Media lies regarding your statement. 80% of locals evacuated, had insurance and rebuilt on their own. The ones you hear about are akin to Brittnay Spears, trash makes for tabloid journalism and ratings. More then 60% of the flooded areas in Katrina were white educated professionals, no one ever reports that fact. The levee broke at the yacht club!

Half of out city is still empty, half the population is gone. Simple fact, flood insurance couldn't be purchased in NOLA. However, the educated half, never flooded anyway, we built on high ground over 200 years ago. The not so bright built in flood plains in drained swamp. C'est la Vie.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:43 PM
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Tork,

No. A small local office, simply a small 3 month internship addition to her resume.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KateNotToLate
Julienne,

Media lies regarding your statement. 80% of locals evacuated, had insurance and rebuilt on their own. The ones you hear about are akin to Brittnay Spears, trash makes for tabloid journalism and ratings. More then 60% of the flooded areas in Katrina were white educated professionals, no one ever reports that fact. The levee broke at the yacht club!

Half of out city is still empty, half the population is gone. Simple fact, flood insurance couldn't be purchased in NOLA. However, the educated half, never flooded anyway, we built on high ground over 200 years ago. The not so bright built in flood plains in drained swamp. C'est la Vie.
Okay, I'll give you the personal knowledge. We ended up with the population you used to have, and they are just as much trouble over here as they were there. Although I have to say, some former NOLA residents did knuckle down and get jobs, and more power to them. I realize that not all of NOLA got flooded.

Your information about how to drive through water is invaluable. We have high water here too, but then we also have traffic lights in areas that flood. So if we stop, we are done for; if we go, we might get hit. Lose-lose.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:58 PM
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Juliane I thought you left, I started to miss your thinly-veiled racism on FF.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:05 PM
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Poor Houston. Seems many of the welfare state of NOLA went there. Why on earth did the govt dump them in one place?

We dont want them either. The US gov created them, not NOLA.
Please know, the moms of most have decided to stay in the many states in which they landed bc of better schools, jobs, oppurtunities. The worst stayed in Houston due to proximinty and wanting to return to their lazy life in NOLA. The thug fathers retruned here to wreak crime.

NOLA poor, lower class blacks are NOT like blacks ANYWHERE else.

The best we can hope, is the other cities can shape them up. They were stagnating in the projets here. Most arrived from the country in the last 40 years, a mess of ignorance and laziness. Plantation families supported them for generations until the 1960's. I won't say anything further about them, but will add that I spent 3 weeks in Africa recently, didnt notice people's color at all. Everyone was well speken, polite, hard working, and pleasant.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:32 PM
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Well, our mayor agreed to rescue them! They did get sent to other places around the US though, but we definitely got the lion's share.

Whatever secondspassed thinks, I am not racist. I have just as much disdain for white generational welfare - like you said, it doesn't matter to me what color someone is, but if that person is going to commit crime, bitch and moan about what the government needs to do for him/her, sit on his/her ass and do nothing, yeah, I'm gonna think less of them. Has nothing to do with color, has everything to do with character. The very people who purport to help black Americans have destroyed their families and their moral structure. Wish they'd wake up to it!

The plantation is still there, it's just the government who is the master.
 
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:53 PM
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Anyway...back to the topic at hand...driving a car through high water - Pits asked if it's true that you shouldn't drive a cold engine through high water but always have the motor hot - is that your experience?

And how DO you deal with such obstacles as traffic lights?

Six inches of water doesn't seem like a lot to go through, that's hardly high water, I'm surprised the water even got up to the tailpipe of the Fit in the first place!
 

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Old 02-22-2010, 05:11 PM
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Character and personal responsibility, the subject of ALL my posts here.
 
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