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Old 07-14-2009 | 05:41 AM
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Old 07-14-2009 | 07:45 AM
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I've only owned my '09 Fit for less than a week but have been driving it daily and I can contribute some answers to help you with your struggle.

Before I start though, I think the guy who wrote all those complaints has a serious problem against the Fit

Anyway:

Before the Fit I had an '09 Camry which is pretty comfortable to sit in. I wouldn't go as far as to say "luxurious" but it was a nice car and very comfortable to ride in.

When I got to the dealership to buy my Fit, I test drove the one I wanted and in my head I compared it to the Camry, and by far it is much more comfortable than that.

The Fit isn't the most comfortable car ever though, you do feel bumps. Comparing to my Camry I feel more than that, but I did get the Sport and it does have a sport feel to it. But for the most part you won't feel much of the road.

I highly doubt the Fit can be blown off a bridge by the slightest gust of wind. It's not as light as a feather now. lol.

Cheapest and worst paintjobs? In my opinion I like the paint job better than the paint job done on my Camry. I don't know details but the paint is damn good.

I've drove my Fit more than 2 hours out of town and my seats did not kill me, they weren't bothersome at all.

I haven't got to the 80mph mark so I can't say anything about that. And you have to realize that this car isn't a race car, so don't expect SOO much power out of it.

The A/C is fine, feels good and nice. It hasn't "froze me out of my car"

The Fit, in my opinion, is more than reasonably comfortable to sit in (I don't know comparing to your old car but comparing to my Camry, I like it better). It's very fun to drive. I think it will "fit" your needs.

Hope this helps! Sorry for the long post.
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 10:26 AM
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Simple answer:

Test drive.....

my suggestion, the 09 is quieter, seems larger due to design, and the 08 doesn't have enough cup holders for the amount of asians I seem to fit into my car on a weekly basis...

if I had the 09, the problem wouldn't be as bad...
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by guitar_trance
Thanks for putting up with the questions. For those who may say I need to search the site for answers, well, I have no time.
Have to break your balls: You have no time to search but you had time to write this epic post?

- The fit is incredibly uncomfortable and the worst, most bumpy ride of any car on the road.
It's bumpy. No doubt about it. Bumpier than any other car on the road? That seems an exaggeration. But the ride is rough (or sporty depending who you ask) especially over poor-quality roads.

- The Fit sounds like a nest full of hornets at high speeds (even the automatic, paddle shift model) which is incredibly irritating and loud... some say completely unbearable, even irritatingly "whiny".
You'll hear the engine. Due to the gearing, at 70 MPH the engine spins over 3000RPM. Personally I have not found it loud enough to be troublesome, but then again my other car is a Civic and is similar that way.

- Some say the Fit gets nearly blown off bridges and overpasses at even the slightest sign of wind because of its light weight.
It can be jumpy in the wind. Really any light car with a taller profile is. Just be prepared.

- The Fit has the thinnest, cheapest sheet metal money can buy, and has absolutely no protective undercoating.
- The Honda Fit has the cheapest, worst paint jobs on the planet. None of the colors have clear coat? Huh?
Doesn't seem any worse than either of my Civics...it's not going to be as good as the paint on a luxury car!

- The seats will kill you after sitting in them for only an hour or so. Long trips? Fo'get aboud'it!
Seem fine to me, but I think a lot of your comfort has to do with your size, any existing conditions, etc.

- The Fit is extremely dangerous if an accident were to occur.
It gets decent crash test ratings. There's been a lot of panic over a recent IIHS test that slammed sub-compacts head-on into midsize cars at 45MPH. It should come as no surprise that in such a crash, the small car suffers far worse damage. That's just physics at work. Head-on accidents are not all that common compared to rear-ends and t-bones.

- The Fit is very slow and sluggish once gear changes have been achieved. (Highway speeds suck after 45 mph) Feels as if it's straining at all speeds.
Anyone that says this doesn't know how to drive and should have their license revoked.

Have heard: "If you actually manage to get it to 80 mph," the ride (wind, road noise, etc.) is VERY loud. The engine, again, is unbearably noisy (as if it's continually pushing itself), and it seriously struggles to stay anywhere near 80 mph.
Per the above, it is a little noisy at 80MPH. It has no problems maintaining this speed...partly b/c the engine is still fairly well in the power band, but the engine at 3500RPM is louder than the engine at 1500RPM.

- Some say the air conditioning sucks eggs... and sucks [boiled] eggs at that! (Have spoken with a couple of Fit owners, strangers out and about, who say their new Fit Sport's AC freezes them out of the car)
Mine can freeze me out of the car if I want it to.

- I also hear the Fit Sport (even with VSC) is absolutely terrible, almost dangerous, in winter weather. I don't live in an area that gets a lot of snow and ice.
Have not driven it in snow yet. I can't imagine it being so much worse than any other light, small FWD car. I'm sure some of our friends in the GWN can chime in about snow performance.


Good luck!
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 10:41 AM
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You have to realize that forums, like this one, are where people come to gripe and complain, and that some people, as my ex-wife used to put it, would "gripe if they were hung with a new rope."

I've had my fit for 4 months and 6700 miles. I still love driving it and actually look for excuses to go somewhere just so I can. As far as I can see, the paint, while a bit thinly applied, seems as durable as any other car I've owned. The seats are comfortable (at least for me). The car is snappy and responsive and a blast to drive around. You guys who call the car slow have never driven a Volkswagen beetle, have you? I mean the real VW, the one with 36 HP.

I have had the car on the road in 30-40 MPH winds. I could feel the car wandering a bit, but nothing that I and the car couldn't handle. The ride is "firm", but after a few thousand miles, the suspension seems to have become a bit more compliant. I actually like the way the car feels. The steering has a very "connected to the road" feel to it.

I haven't tested the 5-star crash rating yer (thank God). I also can't comment on the long term rust resistance. The car does look to be very well put together, and I'm impressed by the fit and finish inside and out.

I haven't driven the Fit in snow yet, but I can't imagine that it's any worse than the other front wheel drive cars I've owned (tires notwithstanding).

One more thing, my fuel economy is ranging from 38 to 42 MPG (actual) with the manual transmission.
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 10:50 AM
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Have to break your balls: You have no time to search but you had time to write this epic post?



It's bumpy. No doubt about it. Bumpier than any other car on the road? That seems an exaggeration. But the ride is rough (or sporty depending who you ask) especially over poor-quality roads.


You'll hear the engine. Due to the gearing, at 70 MPH the engine spins over 3000RPM. Personally I have not found it loud enough to be troublesome, but then again my other car is a Civic and is similar that way.



It can be jumpy in the wind. Really any light car with a taller profile is. Just be prepared.



Doesn't seem any worse than either of my Civics...it's not going to be as good as the paint on a luxury car!


Seem fine to me, but I think a lot of your comfort has to do with your size, any existing conditions, etc.


It gets decent crash test ratings. There's been a lot of panic over a recent IIHS test that slammed sub-compacts head-on into midsize cars at 45MPH. It should come as no surprise that in such a crash, the small car suffers far worse damage. That's just physics at work. Head-on accidents are not all that common compared to rear-ends and t-bones.


Anyone that says this doesn't know how to drive and should have their license revoked.



Per the above, it is a little noisy at 80MPH. It has no problems maintaining this speed...partly b/c the engine is still fairly well in the power band, but the engine at 3500RPM is louder than the engine at 1500RPM.


Mine can freeze me out of the car if I want it to.



Have not driven it in snow yet. I can't imagine it being so much worse than any other light, small FWD car. I'm sure some of our friends in the GWN can chime in about snow performance.


Good luck!
why anyone would want to go 80 mph in a small four cylinder is beyond me. i buy a small car to save fuel, not to use 20% more by speeding.
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 10:53 AM
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As a potential Fit buyer, I find all these accusations kind of laughable. I love how someone mentioned the Fit has so many problems but in almost every magazine, website, etc I have seen the Fit is rated as top in its class, a best buy, recommended buy, etc. Like someone else said, people will find anything to complain about. You could give some people a brand new Bentley and they'll start complaining about how much it costs to insure.

I am interested in hearing about the Fit and driving in the snow though? I'm from up North and get anywhere from 5-10 decent snowfalls a year (also current SUV driver) so I'd love to hear more about experiences with the Fit in inclement weather.
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 11:01 AM
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I guess you'll have to ask me about the winter driving next winter. I'm sure some of our Fit friends in the north have experience over last winter, though.
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 12:33 PM
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the auto trans at 70 mph revs at 2600 rpm.
manual trans is 3400 rpm.

i have the auto trans. i don think the car is too noisy at high speed.

high winds will blow the car around. but ive never felt i was going to be blown into another lane. but attention is needed.

0 to 40 mph is quick enough. hard acceleration from 40 to 60 is sluggish. cruising at well over 70 mph (at least with the auto trans) i dont get any sense the engine is being pushed.

i have found the seats comfortable. i drive 38 miles a day. i have not gone on long trips.

the air conditioner has been fine. although it's not been a hot summer here.

last winter i drove it once in a genuine snowstorm and didnt have any problems.

the brakes are weird. sometimes i feel they are perfectly good. other times they seem a bit soft. i have experienced the car fish-tail a couple times on hard braking... but not at other times.

the paint scratches easily.

the ride is harsh on bumpy roads.

safety: if you're hit head-on, you're in big trouble. that's why i've never been hit head-on.

i've averaged 32 mpg for the first 9500 miles in very mixed driving.

it's not perfect, but overall i love the car. i look forward to driving it whenever i get in it. i have zero regrets.
 

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Old 07-14-2009 | 03:33 PM
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- The fit is incredibly uncomfortable and the worst, most bumpy ride of any car on the road.


KEN: my old cooper-s in stock form with SportPackage was a harsh ride. compared to that, my 09 is more tame, but the spring rate is a tad high.

- The Fit sounds like a nest full of hornets at high speeds (even the automatic, paddle shift model) which is incredibly irritating and loud... some say completely unbearable, even irritatingly "whiny".


KEN: not consistent with my cars.

- Some say the Fit gets nearly blown off bridges and overpasses at even the slightest sign of wind because of its light weight. (wouldn't this be extremely dangerous and therefore not allowed by safety laws, if so?)


KEN: the car does get affected by strong crosswind, but so did Yaris and other eco cars i ve driven at Hertz during biz trips.

- The Fit has the thinnest, cheapest sheet metal money can buy, and has absolutely no protective undercoating. (Isn't that against consumer protection laws?)

KEN: the panels have protective coating. the reason for the thin metal is to reduce weight. true that the panels dont stand up well to dings, but the car is narrow enough i haven't really gotten hit even at the BEST parking spots closest to shopping center entrances.

- The Honda Fit has the cheapest, worst paint jobs on the planet. None of the colors have clear coat? Huh?

KEN: not true. it's a well though out paint friendly to the environment as well.

- The seats will kill you after sitting in them for only an hour or so. Long trips? Fo'get aboud'it!


KEN: only if you're fat and ugly.

- The Fit is extremely dangerous if an accident were to occur.

KEN: only if a jet fell out of the sky onto it.

- The Fit is very slow and sluggish once gear changes have been achieved. (Highway speeds suck after 45 mph) Feels as if it's straining at all speeds.

KEN: not consistent especially with my 5speed. thing pulls pretty hard. even with the AT it doesn't feel that slow.
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 03:56 PM
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- The fit is incredibly uncomfortable and the worst, most bumpy ride of any car on the road.
I've ridden in Jeep Cherokees that have a much worse ride than the Fit. The Cherokee didn't have the advantage of being fun to drive on curves though. It's choppy over expansion joints, but the sharp handling of it outweighs any of the annoyance from that. You feel exactly how the tires are interacting with the road.

Originally Posted by guitar_trance

- The Fit sounds like a nest full of hornets at high speeds (even the automatic, paddle shift model) which is incredibly irritating and loud... some say completely unbearable, even irritatingly "whiny".
The M/T '09 is actually more like 3300 or 3400 rpm at 70 if I recall. At first it was surprising to have it rev that high on the highway, but only one person who's ridden with me ever commented on it, and they commented on seeing the tach be that high, not on what they heard. You get used to it quick and don't notice it after that.

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- Some say the Fit gets nearly blown off bridges and overpasses at even the slightest sign of wind because of its light weight. (wouldn't this be extremely dangerous and therefore not allowed by safety laws, if so?)
If it's windy, just pay attention to driving, and you're fine. Talking on the phone, eating a burger, and drinking a coke while trying to drive with one finger and your knees doesn't work in a Fit, less so in the wind. Blown off a bridge sounds like nonsense to me.

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- The Fit has the thinnest, cheapest sheet metal money can buy, and has absolutely no protective undercoating. (Isn't that against consumer protection laws?)
Don't know. I guess that keeps the weight down so it handles better and gets better mileage. I don't think Hondas really have a reputation for rusting, do they?

Originally Posted by guitar_trance

- The Honda Fit has the cheapest, worst paint jobs on the planet. None of the colors have clear coat? Huh?
I don't think the no clear coat thing is true. I feel like this has been debated on here before.

Originally Posted by guitar_trance

- The seats will kill you after sitting in them for only an hour or so. Long trips? Fo'get aboud'it!
I'm 6'3" and have had no problem in my seats on trips.

Originally Posted by guitar_trance

- The Fit is extremely dangerous if an accident were to occur.
If your Avalanche hit a semi head on, it would get destroyed too. The crash ratings on the Fit are fine. It has lots of airbags. It also has responsive handling to avoid other bad drivers.

Originally Posted by guitar_trance

- The Fit is very slow and sluggish once gear changes have been achieved. (Highway speeds suck after 45 mph) Feels as if it's straining at all speeds.
I drove my friends' '07 automatic a few times, and it was reasonably peppy and had no problem getting onthe highway at all. My stick is really pretty stinking peppy for a 1.5 liter. It has no problem keeping up with traffic or getting up to speed. The engine does not ever really feel like it's straining--it feels more like it wants to be pushed more because it runs so smooth.

Originally Posted by guitar_trance
Have heard: "If you actually manage to get it to 80 mph," the ride (wind, road noise, etc.) is VERY loud. The engine, again, is unbearably noisy (as if it's continually pushing itself), and it seriously struggles to stay anywhere near 80 mph. (Hell, my wife's PT Cruiser, with smaller-than-Fit engine, hits 90 mph with absolutely no problem/strain whatsoever!!!)
I'm not sure what option your wife has that got her the smaller-than-Fit engine since every PT Cruiser ever made has had a 2.4L in it. Yeah, sure 80 is noisy. You're going fast, of course there is noise. Not any worse than other small cars I've owned.

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- Some say the air conditioning sucks eggs... and sucks [boiled] eggs at that! (Have spoken with a couple of Fit owners, strangers out and about, who say their new Fit Sport's AC freezes them out of the car)
My A/C has seemed ok. It hasn't really been all that hot here though this summer at all. It makes the car a little slow feeling at times. Still faster than my '93 Escort was.

Originally Posted by guitar_trance
- I also hear the Fit Sport (even with VSC) is absolutely terrible, almost dangerous, in winter weather. I don't live in an area that gets a lot of snow and ice. Yet, we do get 3-4 inches sometimes twice or more in a season. Am keeping the 4-wheel drive SUV for hauling and the bad weather days. But I wouldn't want to get caught by surprise in a car that is dangerous and nearly disfunctional in snow. I know the proper tires can make a HUGE difference in snow too.
Haven't had it in the winter yet. I'll get back to you about that next spring. I've survived every Michigan winter of my life though with small FWD vehicles with stick shifts (Escort wagon and then Focus hatch), and I've only ever been stuck a few times.

Originally Posted by guitar_trance
I want a car that's [mainly] decent on gas, that has some features beyond a basic, plain-jane box of an econo car. I want an "econo car" that's fun to drive, one I can maybe customize a little... have some fun with. Yet, one I can be at least "reasonably" comfortable in/with. I want a fun, "cheaper" runaround car that isn't unbearable to drive.
Sounds like you want a Fit.

Originally Posted by guitar_trance
Keep in mind, I am used to one of the most luxurious and comfortable Flex Fuel SUV/trucks on the planet. Yet, even with Active Fuel Management (drops to 4 cylinders when in level/downhill driving conditions) it struggles to get 19 mpg in the city! (14-16 is the average in city, if that!)
Two friends of mine, one with a '06 Avalanche and one with an '02 Sierra, each said that the wind noise in the Fit on the highway wasn't any worse than what their trucks sounded like.

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After very extensive investigation I've come to the conclusion the Fit would be better for me than all of the competition in it's class. The SX4 Crossover was also a choice... but only because of it's AWD option. In the end, other points made me decide against the SX4. Besides, I actually LOVE the look of the Fit. I think it's cool-looking.
Read some of Edmunds' long term updates on their SX4. They actually seem to really like it a lot, and they say it feels rock solid on the road in a substantial way that the Fit doesn't (mostly because the Fit is a lot lighter). I think the described the SX4 as being sort of fun but more of a relaxed cruiser and the Fit as being more high-strung in its personality because it reacts a lot to every input. The Fit will get tons better mileage.

I drive mine pretty gently most of the time, and my mileage has steadily gotten better as I've broken it it. I've been around 35-37 for most of my tanks lately.
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 04:28 PM
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Thanks for putting up with the questions. For those who may say I need to search the site for answers, well, I have no time. I have even less of a life these days. My apologies ahead of time for questions answered elsewhere on the site. Also, I guess this thread is [mainly] directed to those who own '09 Fit Sports, and who drive other more "luxurious" vehicles at least some of the time.

I am an '08 Chevy Avalanche LTZ (top of the line, utility/luxury SUV/covered pickup) owner. I mean, this thing is like sitting in someone's posh, black leather-covered living room... and it's almost as large as someone's living room!

And your gas bill is ...

Given the above info on what I'm used to, I [obviously] have a couple of '09 Fit questions before talking the plunge (Am waiting for the Fit of my choice --- Sport w/nav and VSC -- to arrive at my selected dealer's location).

I've read some negative things from various web posters regarding the Fit:

- The fit is incredibly uncomfortable and the worst, most bumpy ride of any car on the road.

You need to test drive. Coming from a tank with rough ride you'll get in a lifeboat. Only you can decide if a lightweight tinkerbelle is worth the ride.

- The Fit sounds like a nest full of hornets at high speeds (even the automatic, paddle shift model) which is incredibly irritating and loud... some say completely unbearable, even irritatingly "whiny".

Big engines, low rpm, little engines high rpm. You will see the difference. Hondas 1500 engines like 5000rpm, an rpm that would explode your LTZ engine, not to mention the added shifting it'll do.

- Some say the Fit gets nearly blown off bridges and overpasses at even the slightest sign of wind because of its light weight. (wouldn't this be extremely dangerous and therefore not allowed by safety laws, if so?)

Only if alignment or tires are off. But don't count on LTZ tanker stability.

- The Fit has the thinnest, cheapest sheet metal money can buy, and has absolutely no protective undercoating. (Isn't that against consumer protection laws?)

Beg pardon but I'll bet the quality of Hondas sheet metal analysis is better than your LTZ's. And not mucher cheaper either. Remember, it has to collarse according to safety to protect you. If you don't have structure you depend on design. Its like the Brooklyn bridge compared to a secondary road bridge.

- The Honda Fit has the cheapest, worst paint jobs on the planet. None of the colors have clear coat? Huh?

Maybe, but he ones I see have no paint failures like some of those I see from GM. GM focuses on cheap, Honda focuses on good. Been in both their tech meetings.

- The seats will kill you after sitting in them for only an hour or so. Long trips? Fo'get aboud'it!

Again, you need a test drive. Might be unsettling to go from a highway tanker to a 15' sailing craft.


- The Fit is extremely dangerous if an accident were to occur.

Big squashes little; physics rule. The only thing favoring Fit is quickness and collapse design but if it comes to head-to-head big squashes little. I count on quickness to avoid

- The Fit is very slow and sluggish once gear changes have been achieved. (Highway speeds suck after 45 mph) Feels as if it's straining at all speeds.

Have heard: "If you actually manage to get it to 80 mph," the ride (wind, road noise, etc.) is VERY loud. The engine, again, is unbearably noisy (as if it's continually pushing itself), and it seriously struggles to stay anywhere near 80 mph. (Hell, my wife's PT Cruiser, with smaller-than-Fit engine, hits 90 mph with absolutely no problem/strain whatsoever!!!)

My automatic Fit gets 100+ mph and you can verify at You Tubes "Fit Leading a Lap at VIR". Its no racer but it holds its own with true 30 mpg vehicles.

The PT cruiser has a 2.4 L engine compared to the Fit's 1.5 L so the cruiser also has shorter gearing, so it should accelerate a little better than the Fit. My automatics impromptu 'drags with Cruisers have all been able to take them initially but eventuall y they can pass. By then of course i've already got the lane. Quickness counts. The Fit is slow comparativelty as a drag race star (again ref "Fit leading a lap at VIR" on you tube) but in road running the quickness more than makes up.

- Some say the air conditioning sucks eggs... and sucks [boiled] eggs at that! (Have spoken with a couple of Fit owners, strangers out and about, who say their new Fit Sport's AC freezes them out of the car)

My A/C in NC's 90 dgree and 85% humidity is fine. But nowdays, with the emphasis on mpg the smallest and least hp using A/C is used by everybody, including GM. Its good but only in MN would it freeze you.

- I also hear the Fit Sport (even with VSC) is absolutely terrible, almost dangerous, in winter weather. I don't live in an area that gets a lot of snow and ice. Yet, we do get 3-4 inches sometimes twice or more in a season. Am keeping the 4-wheel drive SUV for hauling and the bad weather days. But I wouldn't want to get caught by surprise in a car that is dangerous and nearly disfunctional in snow. I know the proper tires can make a HUGE difference in snow too.

My three jaunts deep into the NC mountains offroads have shown zero trouble in mountainous snow weather. In fact we had to rescue a BMW. The secret is using good snow tires and the lighter weight also assists in getting across rather than through snow. How about uphill across drifts in the LTZ?

Obviously, there are some unhappy Fit owners/testers and/or drivers with Fit experiences out there. Or they're, for the most part, people with serious Fit envy. Heh!

You know we haven't come across them either. I believe auto third needs to be shorter and we routinely make suspension upgrades to reduce understeer and rear load capability but otherwise leave it alone. Can't really say those that have been lowered have been better either.

I want a car that's [mainly] decent on gas, that has some features beyond a basic, plain-jane box of an econo car. I want an "econo car" that's fun to drive, one I can maybe customize a little... have some fun with. Yet, one I can be at least "reasonably" comfortable in/with. I want a fun, "cheaper" runaround car that isn't unbearable to drive.

If you have more fun with a 'decent mpg' than the Fit, you'll put one on the posters here. Just make sure you get a Sport and not base. The opposition Yaris (drives like an Aveo) and Versa (drives like my fathers 1984 Olds,which you may like coming from a LTZ, but it has more rear seat room and gets about same mpg with CVT automatic. The Fit is absolutely the best driver though , especially when properly set up.

Keep in mind, I am used to one of the most luxurious and comfortable Flex Fuel SUV/trucks on the planet. Yet, even with Active Fuel Management (drops to 4 cylinders when in level/downhill driving conditions) it struggles to get 19 mpg in the city! (14-16 is the average in city, if that!)

Yes, our troops say the same except that changing directions in the LTZ is a challenge, not to mention 14-15 here in hilly country. Its made up by 30 mpg and good hauling capacity. with airlift rear shocks.

After very extensive investigation I've come to the conclusion the Fit would be better for me than all of the competition in it's class. The SX4 Crossover was also a choice... but only because of it's AWD option. In the end, other points made me decide against the SX4. Besides, I actually LOVE the look of the Fit. I think it's cool-looking.

We raced Swifts in IMSA and have high regard for Suzuki but 4WD is a mpg killer here where its not used. But if getaround is paramount in snow consider the SX4, or a Honda Passport.

Knowing what my issues are, given the knowledge, can a current '09 Fit owner or driver confirm or deny any negatives I've read/posted about supposed Fit experiences? Can you tell me whether you think I'll be miserable with the Fit? If any of the negatives above are true, are they being exaggerated?

Again, we can only let you know our experiences and we have a couple of s-10 trucks for parts and race cars as a comparison similar to yours. We made the grade; course we have owned a dozen or more Hondas for daily runarounds.

I drove a Fit at a dealership, but only around a couple of blocks, and low-speed at that... I didn't have much time that day. It felt like a nice drive to me, and was pretty darned fun. I didn't notice any of the complaints I've read about... but wasn't looking for them. I do plan on driving one extensively when mine arrives, before actually purchasing. (I'm under no obligation to purchase, even though they had to order the model I wanted -- they figure they will sell it no matter what) Lucky me, huh?

Again you need that 25 mile trip over secondary and interstate highways. Maybe your dealer can arrange that if not with his inventory with a customer. Could be very enlightening. Tell him you'll buy lunch for the test drive. Always worked with us.

Sorry for the "novel-sized" post. Even though I like what I see, hear, and read on this forum, I don't want to regret my purchase after driving it for a month. It's not like one can return a car after a 30 day trial!

No but if I remember, there is a 3 day return policy with costs for mileage and damage only.

Thanks for your time, patience and answers. It's greatly appreciated! Can you help a guy out that's having a "Fit"?
Having a Fit like the rest of us, are we? Good luck.

Cheers
 

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Old 07-14-2009 | 07:02 PM
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This guy guitar_trance keeps saying he has no time for anything. What does he do with his time?

I know lots of people like this....they do very little, but have no time. If only he could find the time to do a little research on the Fit!

As the saying goes 'If you want something done, give it to a busy person'. I think guitar_trance has no time, but he is not busy. Look at the length of the post he wrote. OUCH!
I've been driving my Fit for 15 months. I have experienced none of those problems, and I still love driving it.
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 10:28 PM
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you guys are honestly wasting time making all these epic posts...


TL;DR

Test drive would solve all these problems and questions
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
KEN: only if a jet fell out of the sky onto it.
Great! Now I have to keep one eye on the sky while I'm driving. Fortunately, the Fit has a HUGE windshield to help me watch for falling jets!
 
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Old 07-14-2009 | 11:44 PM
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As others have said, the 5AT revs much lower at highway speeds and is quieter then the 5MT.

I find it OK in the snow. With half decent winter tires I haven't had any problems. Ground clearance isn't the best 'tho.

I find my Fit nicer to drive on windy days then my previous car, a Crown Vic.

The suspension is a little bumpier/sportier then some, but I don't find it uncomfortable. I'm running 185/60R15 tires which have a little more sidewall and are a little more comfortable then the stock 195/55R15 tires.
 
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Old 07-15-2009 | 09:12 PM
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New fit owner here so this is what I will say about what I have experienced so far. I live in the Dallas area which has had 100+degree weather for a while now and the AC in my Fit has been superb. Don't expect it to freeze you out when the temp outside is blazing but it is very adequate. It has gotten pretty cold once the temp dropped to below 95 though. highway speeds? I've been taking it easy per the break-in period the dealership told me to follow and i find myself hitting 80mph and higher without noticing I'm doing so. The engine is quiet and smooth, the finish inside and out is much better than I expected for a car in this price range, the seats are comfy and all the controls are in the proper place. Go test drive one, you'll buy it!
 
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Old 07-15-2009 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by guitar_trance
With the exception of two forum troublemakers/smart@$$3s, I thank all of you for the time it took you to answer my questions.

I obviously don't own a Fit, yet. So my questions were based solely on assorted commentary I read around the web.

As for the engine size of my wife's PT Cruiser, it's been so long since she purchased it, I thought I remembered it only being a 1.4L engine. Forgive my ignorance and lack of substantial memory. HUGE difference between 2.4 and 1.4, huh? DOH!

Sorry for the anal-ism in my never-ending round of questions... but these were the questions I was either most concerned about, or curious as h3ll about.

As for CuTeBoi's commentary on "wasting" time answering "these" posts... all I'll say is some people think beyond their own personal needs and are willing to help others, no matter how irritating it may be. I would have done the same for anyone... even you, CuteBoi!

Yes, I probably could have just done a sufficient test drive to find some of my answers. Still, there's no experience like that of those who have the experience of time on their side relating to a particular issue. In this case, no one can tell me better about a Honda Fit than those who have driven them the longest.

As for nmfit2008's reply. Well, some people on forums have serious issues and insecurities, it would seem. Not that I usually respond to such replies, but all I can say nmfit2008 is I may well do more before noon in my work day than you possibly do in three days of your work week.

I own two businesses. I do all of the graphic design, photo advertising, print advertising, web design, accounting, bookkeeping, payroll, taxes, inventory, ordering, bill paying and more for both businesses.

I am also a studio guitarist, and I get called in at many hours of the day/night to do "tracks-for-hire." If I want the gig, I must go when they call me... regardless of how I "feel." I have other assorted duties, not to mention family-related duties I must contend with... first and foremost. So, nmfit2008, you should know what you're talking about before you spew off the ol' blow hole there, friend!

If posts such as mine irritate you then either stop reading them, or don't bother replying at all!!! Gee, what a concept, eh?

Besides, do I hear ya' mom calling you home for dinner now, nmfit2008?

Again, thanks to all of you who replied in a constructive/helpful manner... it's appreciated more than you know. I think I''ll be pretty comfortable buying that '09 Fit Sport now, thanks to you folks.

I will post about the new "baby" when I get her. Now all I have to do is contend with near-sleepless nights until I bring her home!

Don't worry about the complainers. This site is to contribute knowledge and experience, not have little bites of info. Remember, we elected Obama and the Democrats so some shortcomings exist.
 
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Old 07-16-2009 | 12:07 AM
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I'll throw in my $.02. Whether you will enjoy driving the Fit depends entirely on what kind of vehicles you enjoy driving. Many of the complaints that you listed have some kernel of truth (although some are completely false). I've never owned a true luxo-barge, but I do own a BMW M5 which is kind of a luxury car. I also used to own a Honda CR-V which I sold in order to buy the Fit. Compared to the Fit, the CR-V was quieter, had more low-end torque and a bit faster overall, had better ride and more comfortable on the highway...and was as exciting as watching paint dry. I did not like that car.

Yes, the Fit is loud, but so is a Ferrari F430. (Not that the Fit sounds anything close to the f-car.) But the engine note isn't thrashy, and the engine revs easily to redline without sounding like it is in pain. Typical of Honda engines.

Yes, the ride is on the firm side, and the steering is quick. Whether it is too firm depends on the condition of the roads in your area, and whether you like firm suspensions.

The car is light and cheap, so there is obviously going to be some sense of "cheapness" and "tinniness" to the car. Compared to my M5, the Fit doors do seem very light and a bit tinny. But then the M5 weighs 4000 lbs vs. the Fit at about 2500. And lightness has its own rewards, but again only if you like light, responsive cars.

The Fit is slow. Can't really argue about that. But it isn't really underpowered. When I first test-drove the Fit, I was actually quite surprised at the pep that the engine had, even with two other adults in the car. It is fine at highway speeds, and I never found that it felt dangerously underpowered. This is for the manual transmission. I never drove the auto so I don't know what that is like.

It has a clear coat, and the paint quality is fine for a car of its price tag.

As far as its handling in snow, it just so happens that I bought my Fit before one of the worst winters in recent history in Vancouver. The stock tires suck. Once I got proper snow tires, the handling was much better. Be aware that the Fit lacks a limited-slip diff, which would make it even better in the snow. And the low ground clearance can get the car stuck in very deep snow.

Overall, I love my Fit. I find it just as good, in its own way, as my M5 or my NSX. But again, I like fast, agile, sporty vehicles. If you like soft, comfy vehicles, then the Fit might not be for you. So in the end, you will have to do an extended test drive and answer for yourself whether the personality of the Fit fits your own personality.
 
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Old 07-19-2009 | 11:35 PM
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Good research Guitar_Trance

Guitar Trance, you have raised a lot of good issues. I am a brand new fit owner, just two weeks. This is only the second car I've owned in my life, and the first one, before trading in two weeks ago, I had for 19 years. It was an '89 Toyota Corolla. Zippy, an excellent vehicle, and after 19 years, awfully familiar (in a good way ). I bought the Base Fit, and I am still not sure if I made the right decision. The good points are that it has excellent utility in how much room it has inside and how versatile it is, yet it fits beautifully into small spaces - parking and car ports. It has excellent visibility. A lot of today's cars have huge blind spots, not the fit, highly effective side mirrors, there is no guessing. What seems to be the bad - I am still trying to get used to the driver's seat in terms of comfort. I'm sure I'll work it out. My old car had no struts left, I thought, but oddly the Fit feels just as bumpy . And it does seem sluggish, almost as if I'm driving with the parking brake on (I'm not) and the car is fighting to propel itself. In fact I am going to ask my mechanic to take it for a short drive just to make sure nothing is wrong with the transmission. I find the sluggishness and bouncy ride (is bouncy what the other person referred to as a "firm" ride? Cause to me those definitions are polar opposites) upsetting because I did not notice them on my test drive and I went on the freeway and brought it up to 70, 75, on purpose. It was smooth. Both aspects were important to me.

Regarding safety, my understanding is that it is very safe. Difference with fit and most other cars is that gas tank is under the drivers seat rather than towards rear side of car. Supposedly they built in extra safeguards so that is not supposed to be an issue. But it is airbag fortified and has reinforced steel doors.

I haven't had the car long enough to answer your other concerns, but other items you didn't mention that I can speak to are: even though the steering wheel tilts and telescopes, it doesn't telescope enough for me and when tilted where I wanted it, the curve of the wheel obstructs the speedometer at 60 to 80 mph, mighty inconvenient, so I have to keep the wheel higher than I'd like. And sometimes there is glare on the dash instrument covers and I can't read the lower half of them in general. Another item that surprised me after purchase is that there is no maintenance chart in the manual, the vehicle is "smart," in that it tells you when to have what done and your mechanic must know how to register maintenance that was conducted in the car's memory, or it will screw up future maintenance prompts and your warranty. Is this a ploy to get buyers to use Honda dealers for maintenance? Last, maximum vehicle load is 850 lbs. - that's cargo and passengers, and is not much when you think about it, and I suspect is very low for vehicles in America.

My main reason for buying the Fit was utility and mpg. I filled my tank for the first time yesterday. I went only about 215 miles on the first tank that came from the dealer, that's not as good as I'd hoped. Though the dealer did idle the engine quite a bit. We'll see what future tanks bring.

If you decide to get a Fit I hope you are happy with it. Most Fit owners do seem to be happy with their purchases.
 



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