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Old 04-24-2006 | 12:58 AM
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More power with use of civic 1.8l 140hp engine. Call it Si, R, EX, l, m, n, o, p, whatever, who the hell cares...dead pedal, manual everything(to bring the weight down). And please Honda stop having all or nothing packages. I like scions mix and match a la carte style menu. I'm willing to get rid of my '06 xb for a fit, but I just hate your HFP packages that offer a little for a lot(in this case "sport").
 
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Old 04-24-2006 | 09:52 AM
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More power with use of civic 1.8l 140hp engine.
That probably won't be necessary, especially if the rumors of the full-model change (FMC) coming in 2007 are true. The new Fit will likely have a new 1.5-liter I-4 SOHC i-VTEC engine rated at around 117-120 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) and definite better fuel economy, too.
 
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Old 04-24-2006 | 09:06 PM
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If Honda does not do its full-model change (FMC) for the Fit in 2007, I would suggest they do the following changes for the second-year production Fit:

1. Replace the five-speed automatic with a new, improved CVT automatic that minimizes the "slipping clutch feel" of normal CVT's. Maybe they should negotiate with JATCO for such a CVT.

2. Replace the L15A VTEC engine with new 1.5-liter engine that uses the SOHC i-VTEC valvetrain, which could improve fuel economy and also improves power slightly (from 109 bhp to around 117 bhp SAE 08/04 net).

3. Re-do the instrument panel so it has a real temperature gauge.
Wouldn't CVT be not as good to withstand the power if the car is modifited extensively like a bolt-on turbo kit (like the belt slips because of too much power)?
 
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Old 04-25-2006 | 03:57 AM
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Wouldn't CVT be not as good to withstand the power if the car is modifited extensively like a bolt-on turbo kit (like the belt slips because of too much power)?
True in the past but thanks to improved metal belt design and a stronger transmission clutch, you can get CVT's to handle a lot more than than in the past. After all, if the 2007 Nissan Versa can handle the 1.8-liter I-4 engine with the CVT....
 
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Old 04-25-2006 | 10:46 AM
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Wouldn't CVT be not as good to withstand the power if the car is modifited extensively like a bolt-on turbo kit (like the belt slips because of too much power)?
One who would go through such an extensive mod (i.e. forced induction or engine swap) should get a manual transmission. Better performance and simpler to deal with.
 
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Old 04-26-2006 | 03:10 PM
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Adjustable drivers seat. I am 6'1 and have 3 inches of headroom left however my low back takes a beating by not being able to adjust the pitch of the seat. I am now sitting on a bean bag type lumbar support I picked up at Target!
 
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Old 04-26-2006 | 03:12 PM
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Cool Adjustable driver seat

:Adjustable drivers seat. I am 6'1 and have 3 inches of headroom left however my low back takes a beating by not being able to adjust the pitch of the seat. I am now sitting on a bean bag type lumbar support I picked up at Target!
 
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Old 04-26-2006 | 08:33 PM
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I'm only 5'3" and I can adjust the seat comfortably, but the seat, like my Accord wagon, is too firm. That has been the consensus of the passengers in my Fit, too. I highly recommend the memory foam pillow made by Beauty Rest. I found it on sale at a local outlet store for $15. They usually sell for much more than that. Once I got that pillow, got my Walkman set up in the aux port, and found out all the neat adjustments I can make to the audio system, suddenly my daily commute is something I look forward to!
 
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Old 04-29-2006 | 10:15 PM
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A telescopic steering wheel.

Maybe my arms are too short... but when I sit close enough to reach the wheel at a comfortable length, my legs feel a little cramped. When my legs are at a comfortable position, I have to stretch my arms to reach the wheel.

The moonroof is a nice idea, too.
 
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Old 04-30-2006 | 05:11 AM
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A telescopic steering wheel.

Maybe my arms are too short... but when I sit close enough to reach the wheel at a comfortable length, my legs feel a little cramped. When my legs are at a comfortable position, I have to stretch my arms to reach the wheel.

The moonroof is a nice idea, too.
i kinda have the same problem too. i have long dancers legs
 
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Old 05-31-2006 | 03:11 PM
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The best thing about the CVT is that it allows for an "infinite" amount of ratios for more efficient engine operation regardless of engine revs. That's why my 1998 Honda Civic HX CVT coupé gets 33-37 mpg all the time.

As for rear discs, given that on a FWD car most of the braking is done by the front brakes anyway the use of rear drums is not really an issue. After all, when the Fit could stop from 60-0 in only 123 feet with a front disc/rear drum setup, going to rear discs might not shorten stopping distances much more.
Thanks for the info. I have to agree that 123 ft breaking from 60 is very good. Originally, I was trying to source out rear discs as I have an aggressive driving habit and my current car stops at 121ft from 60. Several times I've stopped within 2 feet of the car in front of me. If 123ft is right, my worries are belayed.Hey, any of you guys know whether the current version will be replaced in the next 2 years? I've looked on the net and found no clues but given that the current format's been around since 2001, I'd bet a new model can't be far from the corner. I would appreciate it if anyone had such info...thanks in advance.Peace --- Metaxadude
 
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Old 05-31-2006 | 03:19 PM
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Hi Annie.

Just checked out your Blog and I wanted to say that you are a hot looking gal.

Peace --- Metaxadude
 
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Old 05-31-2006 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by metaxadude
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If 123ft is right, my worries are belayed.Hey, any of you guys know whether the current version will be replaced in the next 2 years? I've looked on the net and found no clues but given that the current format's been around since 2001, I'd bet a new model can't be far from the corner. I would appreciate it if anyone had such info...thanks in advance.Peace --- Metaxadude
I think the braking from 60-0 is great. Imagine a set of high performance summer tires; that should make the Fit stop in an even shorter distance!

In terms of new Fits, only thing I have heard is for late 2008 in Japan.
 
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Old 06-04-2006 | 02:55 AM
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my suggestions would be, a sunroof/moonroof, power fold-in mirrors, front and rear disc brakes, and a more powerful motor. maybe not so much a k20, but a revamped version of the motor the current fit is running now. with a limited slip diff on the 5 speed manual. that's all i got. =)
 
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Old 06-13-2006 | 12:12 PM
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All of you realize that these features add Cost to the vehicle. The no moonroof is purely for safety as US crash test are far more difficult to pass than Europe or Japan( hence we get bumpers and they don't). The Civic is only 1500 more than the Fit and has many of these features.
 
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Old 06-13-2006 | 09:44 PM
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I wouldnt say European crash tests are easier than US crash tests. I think it's the opposite.

5mph bumpers is separate from crash ratings.
 
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Old 06-14-2006 | 09:23 PM
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wishful thinking

I agree with most of the previous posts. I got an '05 Element, and am waiting for the '07 Fit to see if I want to trade in. I love the Element, but I only get 23 mpg on a good day. I miss my '95 Civic hatchback.

What I would mostly like to see are:

(1) arm rests for driver and front passenger!
(2) built-in XM satellite radio option

and maybe also...
(3) an under-$20k hybrid version would be nice
(4) all-wheel drive option for safety in bad weather or snow
(5) yellow color option!

Here is a photo of my Element and my dog...

http://e1.piq.ph.scd.yahoo.net/Photo...sty0lkShuM.Q--
 
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Old 06-15-2006 | 12:31 AM
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bump for a dead pedal. it's not so big a deal in automatics, but with manuals, it's kind of essential.
 
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Old 08-14-2006 | 10:55 PM
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Well i go down to one of my suppliers on Friday to test an XM adaptor that worsk with Pioneer XM's and changers. Im told however that there is no display text

I also pulled the steering wheel apart last week and there is a ummy block in there for radio controls but no available wire thru the airbag clocksprinbg connector. But, i figure if i dotn mind the buttons being able to DIM and just light up, i can 'reassign' that dimmer wire to the radio controls. I just need to find them now.

As for a sunroof, just go get one put in, they just cut the sheetmetal and the headliner and put it in. you can even get power ones. It's not really a safety issue since your only modifying the sheetmetal and no the structural cross member behind the sunroof. The glass is alminated nay way so if it did break it wont rain on you
 
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Old 10-11-2006 | 04:14 PM
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Just got my Fit DX MT. Would have opted for spending more money, but don't like the package thing: don't like air conditioning, and the rest of the LX package wasn't worth the price tag. I would pay extra for power locks and mirrors, but not at $2K. I also would pay for cruise control - but that's $5K to get the Sport!

In the UK you can have a Jazz set up whatever way you want - including sunroof and leather interior, both of which I would get if they were available here. I think Honda is missing the boat on the potential sub-compact premium car buyer with the Fit; I also own a Mini, which cost almost double what my Fit cost, and I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting good economy, enough space to be practical, and some of the luxury normally associated with larger, less efficient cars.
 


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