Gas mileage
#541
Originally Posted by joe FIT
just wondering, where are you?
I'm with those, that think our mileage reflects the type of gas we buy, formulated for that part of USA we are in and buy our gas.
I'm in so cal, and our summer formula, with ethenol, and who knows what else they put in or take out, may be the reason for our poor mpg figures.
not to mention, the canyons and hills. I cant imagine driving 80mph on flat ground going straight?
oops, just looked, virginia. somehow I think that matters.
I'm with those, that think our mileage reflects the type of gas we buy, formulated for that part of USA we are in and buy our gas.
I'm in so cal, and our summer formula, with ethenol, and who knows what else they put in or take out, may be the reason for our poor mpg figures.
not to mention, the canyons and hills. I cant imagine driving 80mph on flat ground going straight?
oops, just looked, virginia. somehow I think that matters.
Last edited by eeeeeha; 09-04-2006 at 08:38 PM.
#542
I have my Fit since Apr 4th, last weekend was the first time that I took it for a long drive. Here is my data below since the beginning. I do not have any data before Mar 26 since I was on the dealer's tank.
I have an automatic trans.
You will see that normally my mileage is not that great, the reason is that I normally only take it to got to work and sometimes groceries during the weekend. We have a second vehicule (Tribute) for family thing.
I drive 5 miles to go to work, 10 miles a day on a small road with stops at every corner.
The time I got 29 m/gal was during my vacation, where it was a mix of road/hwy.
This weekend I did only hwy at the speed limit, almost always around 2500 rpm, almost no AC for 37.7 m/gal. I am quite happy about this result.
26-Mar-06 26.7505
9-May-06 25.2745
25-May-06 27.4954
9-Jun-06 27.8065
28-Jun-06 28.2677
9-Jul-06 29.0769
21-Jul-06 29.2289
8-Aug-06 27.6067
17-Aug-06 27.7684
30-Aug-06 27.8365
4-Sep-06 37.7201
I have an automatic trans.
You will see that normally my mileage is not that great, the reason is that I normally only take it to got to work and sometimes groceries during the weekend. We have a second vehicule (Tribute) for family thing.
I drive 5 miles to go to work, 10 miles a day on a small road with stops at every corner.
The time I got 29 m/gal was during my vacation, where it was a mix of road/hwy.
This weekend I did only hwy at the speed limit, almost always around 2500 rpm, almost no AC for 37.7 m/gal. I am quite happy about this result.
26-Mar-06 26.7505
9-May-06 25.2745
25-May-06 27.4954
9-Jun-06 27.8065
28-Jun-06 28.2677
9-Jul-06 29.0769
21-Jul-06 29.2289
8-Aug-06 27.6067
17-Aug-06 27.7684
30-Aug-06 27.8365
4-Sep-06 37.7201
#543
wow - if i had a 5 mile commute I wouldn't care what my mileage was lol - you're one lucky guy/gal (?).
Yep, no car performs at its best with short trips like that - its always running cold! and then stops at every corner, you're adding stop-N-go to a cold engine - the result is as expected.
Yep, no car performs at its best with short trips like that - its always running cold! and then stops at every corner, you're adding stop-N-go to a cold engine - the result is as expected.
#544
I had a Nissan Murano before the Fit, doing the same distance I was getting 15m/gal according to the on board computer. We have another truckm it was just stupid to keep two. I actually exchange my Murano for the Fit and the dealer gave me money back .
Based on this I estimate that I saved about 383.19$ (Canadian), remove 10% for USD = About 350$ USD in about 4 months. This is on a 5 miles commute !!! Still important enough to care about the mileage.
Based on this I estimate that I saved about 383.19$ (Canadian), remove 10% for USD = About 350$ USD in about 4 months. This is on a 5 miles commute !!! Still important enough to care about the mileage.
#545
Packy I am impressed with the information on your post #1061. Recently I posted a very suprising mpg result so I understand you post. Although I drive a MT Fit I like to say congratulations on acheiving such good results on the mpg with your AT Fit.
#546
NEW RECORD TODAY! 38.1 This brings my lifetime average (4300 miles) to 35 mpg. THis particular tank was more highway than normal as it included my normal 100 mile round trip work commute (70% highway) plus a 95% highway trip to a wedding gig (180 miles) the extra highway pushed me past my old record of 37.5. Woohoo! I feel like the car is really breaking in and "feeling its oats" now.
On a side note - tonight I drove my father's Prius (I was considering getting one of these for the mileage since I drive 25-30k/year) - wow am I glad I didn't! Thing handles like a wet rag! Absolutely no "spunk" factor that the Fit is so good at
On a side note - tonight I drove my father's Prius (I was considering getting one of these for the mileage since I drive 25-30k/year) - wow am I glad I didn't! Thing handles like a wet rag! Absolutely no "spunk" factor that the Fit is so good at
#547
Originally Posted by Balorn
After a half dozen fill-ups with my AT Sport Fit, I've noticed gradually increasing gas mileage. I also finally broke 30 MPG, if only barely.
The rest of that tank, and nearly all of the other five, was used driving back and forth on the 13-mile trip between home (Austin) and work (Round Rock), AC on about 80% of the time.
After getting 27.12 MPG on the first non-delaer tank driving like I drove my Neon, I drove the next tank very carefully - slow acceleration, minimal AC use, etc. Since that got me a whopping 0.06 MPG better than the previous tank, I went back to driving like I normally do.
Oil life went to 90% at just under 650 miles, and that's where it still is at about 1215 (I expect it'll drop to 80% soon if the rate is roughly steady).
- 29.46 MPG (dealer tank, and lots more highway than normal)
- 27.12 MPG
- 27.18 MPG
- 27.97 MPG
- 28.19 MPG
- 30.16 MPG
The rest of that tank, and nearly all of the other five, was used driving back and forth on the 13-mile trip between home (Austin) and work (Round Rock), AC on about 80% of the time.
After getting 27.12 MPG on the first non-delaer tank driving like I drove my Neon, I drove the next tank very carefully - slow acceleration, minimal AC use, etc. Since that got me a whopping 0.06 MPG better than the previous tank, I went back to driving like I normally do.
Oil life went to 90% at just under 650 miles, and that's where it still is at about 1215 (I expect it'll drop to 80% soon if the rate is roughly steady).
You work at Dell, do you not? I'm in building 7. Don't have my Fit yet.. probably looking like early November before I get it in. I'll have a white Sport MT.
#548
Quick reminder - yes the EPA numbers are estimates, but they are rounded down significantly from the measured numbers. They take the measured numbers and subtract 22% from the highway and 10% from the city.
The the actual EPA number for the highway you multiply the Estimate by 1.28 (to make up for 22% reduction). 48.64 would be the actual number that the EPA got for highway driving. While this number is on a treadmill it does take into account aerodynamic drag and vehicle weight (they can change the resistance of the roller).
The main things that hurt actual highway numbers are driving fast (EPA test averages 48 mph with a top speed of 60) and not figuring in cold starts (the EPA test is done with a warm engine).
Engines use much much more fuel when they are cold, and it takes about 10-15 miles to fully warm an engine up (I am talking oil temp not water temp). Even if you drive 95% highway, but your commute is only 10 miles, you are not ever getting the Fit into its most efficient mode.
To really max out the mileage you need to start with a warm engine, have plenty of air in the tires (hypermilers reccomend 25% over max sidewall pressure, but I think 38-40 psi is plenty) drive with a steady throttle (slow a little up hills, and accelerate a little downhill) and keep the speed down. 60 mph will get you there slower, but mid 40's are easy to reach in an MT. Automatics are a little different because they get inherently better numbers on the EPA test. Typically an automatic will not do too much better than the EPA highway number.
Also remember than just a couple of minutes of city driving has a significant impact on an otherwise all highway tank.
The the actual EPA number for the highway you multiply the Estimate by 1.28 (to make up for 22% reduction). 48.64 would be the actual number that the EPA got for highway driving. While this number is on a treadmill it does take into account aerodynamic drag and vehicle weight (they can change the resistance of the roller).
The main things that hurt actual highway numbers are driving fast (EPA test averages 48 mph with a top speed of 60) and not figuring in cold starts (the EPA test is done with a warm engine).
Engines use much much more fuel when they are cold, and it takes about 10-15 miles to fully warm an engine up (I am talking oil temp not water temp). Even if you drive 95% highway, but your commute is only 10 miles, you are not ever getting the Fit into its most efficient mode.
To really max out the mileage you need to start with a warm engine, have plenty of air in the tires (hypermilers reccomend 25% over max sidewall pressure, but I think 38-40 psi is plenty) drive with a steady throttle (slow a little up hills, and accelerate a little downhill) and keep the speed down. 60 mph will get you there slower, but mid 40's are easy to reach in an MT. Automatics are a little different because they get inherently better numbers on the EPA test. Typically an automatic will not do too much better than the EPA highway number.
Also remember than just a couple of minutes of city driving has a significant impact on an otherwise all highway tank.
#549
I just got back from a 460 mile road trip with my band. Someone slashed the tires on our van this morning and we couldn't get them replaced in time to make the show. So, we threw a few guitars and merchandise in my fit and hit the road (someone else drove an A4 with pedal boards and the other guitars). I'm still working on the second tank, but the first tank did very well.
3 grown men (about 175 lbs each)
merch and guitars (100 lbs)
A/C all the way
70-80 mph
282 miles/7.3 gallons= 38.63 MPG!!!
Thank you Honda!!!
3 grown men (about 175 lbs each)
merch and guitars (100 lbs)
A/C all the way
70-80 mph
282 miles/7.3 gallons= 38.63 MPG!!!
Thank you Honda!!!
#551
Originally Posted by Fray Adjacent
You work at Dell, do you not? I'm in building 7. Don't have my Fit yet.. probably looking like early November before I get it in. I'll have a white Sport MT.
Keeping to the topic, I found this to be interesting, and wonder how much it's contributing to my gradually increasing mileage:
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...e/15370193.htm
#555
Happy to say that as the odometer accumulates miles, and I keep my tires at 32-33 psi, my fuel economy is steadily improving. Let the tank get low, putting in about 8.5 - 8.8 gal., and calculated about 30.7, then 31.7 mpg. There's some #@!! construction going on in my neighborhood, resulting in a nail first in one rear tire, then in the other, with a slow leak. Tire pressure was about 28 psi when I found one nail, and found the other tire going flat when I got back to my car pooler's house. Even without a nail in the tire, seems the tires lose a little pressure faster than they should.
#556
Hot Topic: Fuel Temp
Originally Posted by Balorn
I found this to be interesting, and wonder how much it's contributing to my gradually increasing mileage:
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...e/15370193.htm
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...e/15370193.htm
Balorn,
Thanks for this great article on Hot Fuel. I think it is worthy of its own thread, but am not sure how to set that up. What a revelation. Makes a lot of sense.
#559
1st post ILP tank:
26 MPG
(which is equal to what I was getting before, maybe a few decimal places different, statistically insignificant).
100% city, and I do not know if I can baby it any further. Shifting at 2200-2500 (sometimes higher), driving at 1800
26 MPG
(which is equal to what I was getting before, maybe a few decimal places different, statistically insignificant).
100% city, and I do not know if I can baby it any further. Shifting at 2200-2500 (sometimes higher), driving at 1800
#560
Gas milage?!
My car runs fine except for a couple of occasions when I could have sworn that I smelled that pungent odour that a cat-converter gives out when it gets raw gas. But, at speed - you know with the flow of traffic: here in Atlantait is about 80mph if you don't want to get runover... as I was saying: at speed with the a/c on on the last tank I got a whopping 24.8mpg!
I drive two interstates I75 & I85 as well as stop and go and the a/c takes it's toll!
Yesterday I filled up and the mpg is back up to 27.7. Maybe there is something wrong? I feel that on a long trip I should do a lot better we'll see. BUT I am not getting anything like what the sticker promised.
My car runs fine except for a couple of occasions when I could have sworn that I smelled that pungent odour that a cat-converter gives out when it gets raw gas. But, at speed - you know with the flow of traffic: here in Atlantait is about 80mph if you don't want to get runover... as I was saying: at speed with the a/c on on the last tank I got a whopping 24.8mpg!
I drive two interstates I75 & I85 as well as stop and go and the a/c takes it's toll!
Yesterday I filled up and the mpg is back up to 27.7. Maybe there is something wrong? I feel that on a long trip I should do a lot better we'll see. BUT I am not getting anything like what the sticker promised.