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Old 04-28-2008 | 08:31 PM
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BOGUS claims?

Was wondering if the Fit form owners verify the advertisers claims?
Some of the claims seems to defy physics like this one:

Run Your Car on Water

Any Fit owner believe or experienced the investment in the $150 + $50 April special price can result in:
"Convert Your Car TODAY to Run on Water and gas to save over 40% on fuel costs!"
 

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Old 04-28-2008 | 10:25 PM
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you should be banned for believing that. Or even asking such a stupid question.
 
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Old 04-29-2008 | 12:05 AM
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While one day we hope to have our cars run of hydrogen (gotten form the electrolysis of h20) today it is currently not feasible. The technology is very expensive and uses lots of energy to get the h2 gas. I assure you you will not get this technology for less than $150 or whatever they advertise. Dont you think honda would add this feature if it was this inexpensive and gave such amazing results.
It also saddens me that we still use internal combustion engines to power our cars, but it is true.
 
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Old 04-29-2008 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by pastafarian
While one day we hope to have our cars run of hydrogen (gotten form the electrolysis of h20) today it is currently not feasible. The technology is very expensive and uses lots of energy to get the h2 gas. I assure you you will not get this technology for less than $150 or whatever they advertise. Dont you think honda would add this feature if it was this inexpensive and gave such amazing results.
It also saddens me that we still use internal combustion engines to power our cars, but it is true.
It is possible today, but as you said it is costly. As it becomes more common practice the price will drop through new innovations and technologies, and will be available soon enough.

I agree. $150 for a h2 conversion kit is not going to happen, not today.
 
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Old 04-29-2008 | 12:37 AM
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you should be banned for believing that. Or even asking such a stupid question.

hahahaha...
 
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Old 04-29-2008 | 03:08 AM
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I have only one word to say....

COROSION!!!!

It takes a specially designed engine to combust hydrogen. Engine oil already has a hard enough time processing fuel, deposit and other stuff. It's going to get confused with a higher amount water in the system. All I'm saying is, hydrogen is out of spec for an engine not designed to use it. If you want to risk prematurely killing your engine, go ahead. Why not pour butane BBQ lighter fluid into your gas tank while you're at it? lol...
 
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Old 04-30-2008 | 10:12 AM
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So the mutual agreement is this is a BOGUS claim and nobody has felt the advertisers claim was worth enough to even try...... amazing
 
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Old 04-30-2008 | 10:38 PM
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So the mutual agreement is this is a BOGUS claim and nobody has felt the advertisers claim was worth enough to even try...... amazing
correct. You can try it if u want.
 
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Old 05-01-2008 | 02:42 PM
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pcs0snq - I see what you are saying. I can't believe this site would allow this type of advertising.
 
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Old 05-01-2008 | 08:42 PM
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pcs0snq - I see what you are saying. I can't believe this site would allow this type of advertising.
Finial someone was able to read and understand my point.

Some sites would toss the note even suggesting it's BOGUS.

Figured I'd ask. Years of experience tells me one thing, but until you ask you just never know, especially with the fact that Fit Freak web site lets this Sponsor make that claim.
 
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Old 05-09-2008 | 06:00 PM
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Old PT Barnum had it right ;"there's a sucker born every minute" Wonder if its the offspring of the Fisher carb that are doing that.
 
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Old 05-21-2008 | 10:04 PM
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Look what I found

Feds Sue Bogus Fuel Saver




November 4, 2004
The Federal Trade Commission has asked a U.S. district court judge to shut down an operation that used illegal spam to make deceptive claims about an "automotive fuel saver" that doesn't save fuel.

The FTC charges that the spam violates the CAN-SPAM Act and the deceptive claims violate the FTC Act. The agency will ask the court to permanently bar the law violations and order the defendants to provide redress for consumers.

An FTC complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Chicago alleges that International Research and Development Corporation manufactures and markets a "magnetic device" under the names FuelMAX and Super FuelMAX. The company claims that when the device is attached to an automobile's fuel line, it will fracture gasoline hydrocarbon chains through magnetic resonance and:

• Increase mileage by up to 27%;
• Reduce Fuel Consumption;
• Reduce Emissions;
• Provide Accelerated Combustion; and
• Burn Fuel That is Normally Exhausted as Un-burned Pollution.

In November 2001, the FTC issued a warning that these product claims and advertising were false, lacked substantiation, and likely violated the FTC Act.

Other defendants, acting as Super FuelMAX resellers, set up Web sites, including www.fuelsaverpro.com to sell the magnetic devices under the pseudonym Fuel Saver Pro. The Web sites made claims such as:

• Increase gas mileage 27%+ by helping fuel burn better;
• Reduce emissions by 43%;
• Smoother engine;
• pays for itself FAST!!!!
• Gives an extra 10% more horsepower; and
• Based on the size of your gas tank you will save from $8 for a typical 15-gallon gas tank, but larger V8 SUVs and trucks will save up to $20 per tank.

The defendant resellers used spam that made deceptive claims to drive traffic to their Web sites. According to the FTC, the spam contained the names of innocent third parties in the "from" or "reply to" fields - a practice known as spoofing - and did not contain a valid physical postal address.

The FTC alleges that the magnetic "fuel saver" doesn't save fuel, doesn't increase gas mileage, and doesn't reduce emissions. According to the complaint, the claims are false and misleading and violate the FTC Act.

The agency also alleges that by providing promotional materials with the false claims to distributors, resellers, and affiliates, the defendants have provided them with the means and instrumentalities to violate the FTC Act. The agency also alleges that the spoofing and failure to provide a valid physical postal address violate the CAN-SPAM Act.

The FTC charges that consumers throughout the country have suffered substantial monetary loss and the defendants have been unjustly enriched. It has asked the court to halt the deceptive claims, bar future violations of the CAN-SPAM Act, and order redress for consumers.

The FTC's complaint names International Research and Development Corporation of Nevada; Anthony Renda; Net Marketing Group, LLC; Micro System Technologies; Floyd J. Tassin, Jr; Marcia Tassin; Diverse Marketing Group, Inc.; Diverse Marketing Group, LLC; Mark C. Ayoub; and Epro2000, Inc. as defendants.
 
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Old 05-21-2008 | 10:11 PM
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Hydrogen would be nice... however it's not a SOURCE of energy, it's a CARRIER.

Once our electric production exceeds our demand by a great deal (read: NUKES, cheaper and more solar and wind), we can easily electrolyze water and generate LOTS of hydrogen.

Right now, tho, it's just not very feasible.
 
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Old 05-21-2008 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pcs0snq
Figured I'd ask. Years of experience tells me one thing, but until you ask you just never know, especially with the fact that Fit Freak web site lets this Sponsor make that claim.
Don't even get me started on this, I have already posted complaints in the feedback area. This is bullsh!t they allow this crap to be advertised in here. It lowers the integrity of the site,

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/site...isleading.html

Also they have been advertising VampireFreaks on here, the site that is linked to several school shootings and more recently a case where a 13 year old girl and her 22 year old boyfriend murdered her younger bother and parents.... F-cking "Internet Brands" taking over this site

Medicine Hat girl guilty of first-degree murder

^^^ That's right, official members of Vampirefreaks.... members talk all day long about murdering people.
 

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Old 05-21-2008 | 10:44 PM
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Thank you FireFox.
 
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Old 05-21-2008 | 11:42 PM
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Old 05-21-2008 | 11:45 PM
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lol, you guys finally get tired of all my bitching?

Hey sweet.... it worked!
 
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Old 05-21-2008 | 11:48 PM
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haha, no... just tryin to help out a fellow fitfreaker
 
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