pb and h
your calc. are right by using:
Total Miles/Gallons Used = Average Miles Per Gallon.
But you should waite till you are empty and then use your calc.

When I get to the half way marker on my gas tank I get roughly about 130-150miles. Seeing your gauge at the half way mark with about 200miles makes me a bit envious on not getting miles like that.

 

I have noticed that I am usually at about 175-200 on my tanks. But, if I am flying around town it will drop to 150. These stories of everyone getting much lower mileage worries me some. There is a very large fluctuation in peoples mileages and I am curios as to why.

 

Well, the results are in:


sorry for the fuzzy receipt, what can you expect from a blackberry phone camera?

The gallons filled are 6.008 . So, lets do the math: 260.3/6.0 = 43.3mpg and .

Obviously not 50mpg but that is better than 40mpg which is what I usually get. I did use the A/C on the way home yesterday and today(for half of the trip - getting hot here). I did fill up at the same gas station and same pump. I even waited inline for the same damn pump and used 89 octane :P I guess the 50mpg was a fluke or something I did unknowingly to the trip meter.

Sorry, to get peoples hopes up. I know I did not wait until the gas light came on but I did fill up close to the same miles that I did last time, therefore, the error is small. I was impatient and this was killing me to know what mpg I was getting. I guess you may be able to conclude that I gained 3mpg with 89 octane(just not that sure on that) which would mean I spent a $1 for 0.75gallons and that would get me an extra 30 miles out of a tank. I will go back to 87 after this tank assuming I do not get better that 43mpg.(don't worry I will fill you in if I get better mpg)

Shawn

 

If i am at 260 miles i only have like about 15 more miles before my light comes on. so roughly 275 miles and use roughly 8.5-9.5 gallons which is roughly estimating at about 30mpg. it is some what on target with the miles posted on the car when i bought which was 31-34mpg.

 

for me it doesnt matter if i have a heavy foot or light foot...i will still get the same miles of about 30mpg

 

The fuel (gal) used assumed here at a certain tank level is bogus so be careful with that information. Ifill my Fit the same way every time and see the pump auto click off vary a great deal. You see it with the miles till it hits the "F" mark. For me that can vary from 40 to 85miles with an obvious 1 gal spread. After 10 tanks, careful records and my scan gauge I tell you from reading the miles to "F" or "1/2 tank is worthless and never repeat. That's because the tank fill is almost impossible to repeat unless you are one that never got the word you should never fill top the top. Hurts the EV tank fume canister saturating the charcoal.

For sure the miles between the "F" and the "1/2" tank marks will be a true indication of the mpg and between 170 and 180 miles will be 42 mpg on any USA Fit.

 

I understand what you are saying. i only fill when i get the indicator light and i find the closes top tier gas station to me and fill till it clicks and thats it. I have been consistently doing that from day one and have been consistently been getting roughly 30 miles per gallon.

 

For my Fit, generally first click off to 1/2 tank @ 180 miles is about 37 mpg at the end. Last tank I got to 190, and got 39 mpg. I don't really notice much difference between the octanes. When I'm spaced out, sometimes I punch the wrong button.

About Claymore, the heart's in the right place I think, but the delivery method is a bit harsh and mistimed I think... something I'm learning myself IRL.

 

Cojaro saves the day by claiming that motor and engine can be used interchangeably and he's brought PROOF.

"motor" entry from the OED
5. a. A machine that supplies motive power for a vehicle or other device with moving parts; (in later use) esp. one powered by electricity, internal combustion, or compressed air. Cf. ENGINE n. 9.
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"motor" from dictionary.com
noun 1.a comparatively small and powerful engine, esp. an internal-combustion engine in an automobile, motorboat, or the like.
motor - Definitions from Dictionary.com

"motor" from Merriam-Webster
2: any of various power units that develop energy or impart motion: as a: a small compact engine b: internal combustion engine; especially : a gasoline engine c: a rotating machine that transforms electrical energy into mechanical energy
motor - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary




claymore: It's not that you don't jump in to help, it's that you burst in with guns a-blazing, ready to "help" (reprimand, rather) the newbie who didn't realize there was a thread from nearly two years ago that answers his question.

/rant

 

Xrobe,

how come i havent seen you at any of the bay area meets? or probably i havent been able to put a face to the forum name or something.

 

cojaro, better get ready for claymore's PMs. It's obvious to claymore that Merraim-Webster doesn't know anything about the English language.

 

I'm building my barricade right now.

 

It's very simple really. Just go out and read your owners manual and or repair manual for ANY brand car not just Honda and you will see that the manufactures (you know the guys that BUILD the cars) ALL refer to the motive power plants in their vehicles as ENGINES not one of them refer to motors except for the usual, starter, fan blower, and window lift mechanisms. NONE for ANY make or model (except for hybrids) simple. so who you going to go by the people that built the vehicle or the "guys trying to be cool" ??

Or any professional mechanics publications, shop manuals, flat rate hour charts, forums etc. The professionals all know the correct terminology is engine. They don't feel the need to "be cool" they just make their living and feed their families through their mechanical EXPERTISE which includes using the correct terminology.

Motor is the term you only hear when there is a bunch of kids hanging around Bullshitting each other about how hot their "Motors" are going to be when they get done working on them.... kids that have never worked on an engine in their short lives.

If you want to call an engine a motor to join the "cool boys" that is your prerogative but every time you do that you let any professionals listening know immediately that you don't know much about CORRECT mechanical terminology and place yourself in the "kids trying to be cool" amateur category.... be my guest.

 

It's only a conflict between engineers and the "cool guys"? What about the definitions? Have they no say in this? And if I'm not an expert engineer, then I have to be one of the "cool guys"?

So an electric car has an electric engine and not an electric motor? It still provides forward acceleration just like an internal combustion engine.

A motorboat has a motor. Isn't it an internal combustion engine?


Thanks, but no thanks. You can disregard the dictionary definitions all you want. I think I'll stick with Webster and the OED on this one and say that engine=motor. This is not because I'm trying to be one of the "cool guys", but because it's the dictionary definition of "motor".

I'd -rep you, but I'd just be hurting myself.

 

An electric car has an electric motor there are no engines that run on electricity period that is reserved for MOTORS. And a motor boat is powered by an engine not a motor unless it uses electricity then it is a motor. Nobody said any thing about engineers where did you get that one? And you are going to ignore the manufactures own words to describe their own products? Like I said be my guest.

 

Any motor just changes energy from one form to another. In the case of an electrical motor it simply changes electrical energy input into mechanical energy output that's all.

An engine converts potential energy into usable energy. A pool of gasoline, diesel fuel, sunlight (solar engine) or steam (like in steam engine) is not energy until something converts it's potential energy into usable energy by some mechanical action that is the function of an engine converting POTENTIAL energy into a usable form. Motors just change the type of energy inputed into another type of energy it doesn't make energy.

 

I give up. Whatever.

 

We could trade definitions back and forth forever. This discussion has been going on for years between professionals that appreciate using proper terminology and young amateurs that think it's cool to invent new terms for things.

The problem is that the definitions that you have come up with are from sources where technical expertise is not expected, use layman's terms to describe technical subjects, and include colloquialisms and slang.

It has been properly called an engine since it was invented way back in the 1800's and that always will be the proper terminology.

If you want to use your definition and ignore the proper terminology used by the manufacturers of the product and professionals in the field by all means let every one know of your lack of knowledge of the subject by continued use of motor where engine is proper.

You have not given one reason for the switch how about enlightening everybody with your reasons for using incorrect terminology?

If you were attending a first year physics class, a professional mechanics school, or (gasp) an engineering class, and tried to pass off a paper for the class that switched motor for the correct answer engine you would fail the class. Or if you tried to submit a professional scientific paper for publication or inclusion into a professional journal guess what fail again.

FitFreak is alleged to be the best Jazz/Fit forum around and every time someone posts a thread using improper terminology it is just one more thing that can hurt the reputation of this site. Some people don't know any better they hear their "cool buddies" using the improper term so they use it. They should be given the chance to learn and employ the proper terminology and improve their knowledge of automotive subjects not encouraged to use improper terms.

 

I am in a first year physics class, and I'm also studying to major in Mechanical Engineering. I'll ask my physics teacher what difference, if any, there is.

And "motor" is not a term invented by the "cool guys". Both "engine" and "motor" have been around since the middles ages.

I don't care what you say next, because I'm unsubscribing.

I take everyone's claims with a grain of salt. I'm surprised you didn't back up your claim with any evidence:World Wide Words: Engine and Motor. Even after reading that article, I see no clear difference between "motor" and "engine" except that they apply to whatever it is for old times sake (i.e. steam engine, rocket motor, rocket engine, and so on). It all depends. Their meanings are the same, their usage is different, usually sticking to no-so-obvious archaic meanings.

 

Not Archaic meanings they are the CORRECT meanings just because you can't see the difference doesn't make them archaic. And if you can't differentiate between the two after reading that article and insist they are the same thing GOOD LUCK in your physics class it's going to be a hard year.. Show me any evidence that motor and engine have been around since the middle ages you do realize what years you are talking about when you say middle ages right? And any MOTOR has to receive energy mainly in electrical form it never transforms potential energy always and forever.

If you really are planning a career in mechanical engineering you had better get used to using the precise and correct terminology I mean right on the button not motor for engine....making that fundamental mistake would be a fatal blow to any engineers career. If you ever finish your learning path and become a mechanical engineer one day in the future you will say to yourself ... "man I'm sure glad that mean old guy claymore convinced me that I had better start using PRECISE terms when dealing with technical subjects."

IF I were you I would run right up to your teacher and tell him you refer to an internal combustion ENGINE as motor and ask him what is wrong with that technically so he knows what to expect from you for the rest of the year.