Dunlop Tires - Never Again!
#41
Well, I was hoping the new DWS version may be quieter. If you can, ask around when you get your new "old" ones , to see if Conti made the new ones quieter than the ones you're getting. I really don't like a lot of road noise from tires... it gets old after awhile for me.
Like I said, road noise-wise, I'm spoiled by the ultra-quiet "road monster" I drive.
Thanks
#42
Apparently the DWS was concieved to deal with this very problem. The reason the old ones are so noisy is the open design of the tread in the center, the blocks tend to wriggle around and make a racket. Of course thats also one reason they do so well in a variety of weather, but. The new DWS was specifically designed to be more quiet and refined. Someday when I get a set of GE wheels I will get the DWS, but until then I rock the 15s LOL
#43
I had great Dunlops on my Jetta. The OEM ones on the Fit never gave me any problems really. I read that they wore out quickly. I got the cheapest 205 Kumhos (tirerack) when I replaced the tires, I'm liking those too.
Worse tires were some cheap Goodyear or Bridgestones I got at either Costco or Sears, can't remember, haha.
There are SO many tires to choose from ... there's lemons and winners in every corner.
Worse tires were some cheap Goodyear or Bridgestones I got at either Costco or Sears, can't remember, haha.
There are SO many tires to choose from ... there's lemons and winners in every corner.
#44
I have rotated the tires, although not as many times as I should have, I guess.
What is the deal with rotating only front-to-rear but never left to right these days? We used to rotate in a pattern that would take the front tires and crisscross them to the rear, and take the rear ones and move them straight forward (without crisscrossing). That way, each tire spends at least a little time on each corner of the car. Would it not be better to still do it this way?
What is the deal with rotating only front-to-rear but never left to right these days? We used to rotate in a pattern that would take the front tires and crisscross them to the rear, and take the rear ones and move them straight forward (without crisscrossing). That way, each tire spends at least a little time on each corner of the car. Would it not be better to still do it this way?
Taking note of the diagram on page 212: When rotating tires, the fronts go directly back to the rear and the rears criss-cross to the front. The only time that you don't criss-cross (make ya jump, jump!) is when you are running directional tires.
With the stock Dunlops, I criss-crossed all 4 tires at every rotation. I kept tire pressure at 40-44 psi and rotated them every 5,000 miles. I managed 34,000+ miles before they were worn out. I changed tires at 34,859 on the odometer.
Currently, I'm running Yokohama Avid Touring S for all-season and Yokohama IG-20's for Winter use. Both sets purchased through Discount Tire, although my rims came from TireRack. The IG20s are noisy, but not as bad as I expected from a dedicated winter tire. I think I will probably not go with the Avids the next time I buy tires because their wet traction is just not up to snuff.
#45
Dunlop Tires - Never Again!
HI ! buddy i have BMW 328i this caris is convertible so i have one doubt actually my car also fit dunlop tires and they run above 25000 miles but they are not worst so i want to know one thing this brand tires sometime automatically worst or not.
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#46
It is one thing to say stay away from a specific tire then to say stay away from Dunlop as a whole. OEM tires are KNOWN to suck be it the Michelins pilots or whatever. Dunlops makes the DZ101 and the Z1 both of which are FANTASTIC tires for what they are made for and price. Just because one tire sucks doesnt mean the whole dunlop brand sucks.
Absolutely correct. And Dunslop is not alone in making a cheap tire for the OEM market because price is so vital to selling to a car manufacturer.
Next time you lokk for tires with great life be sure to check their mileage rating. Its not absolute because 'government' does have a standardized test for mileage but expect tires with 400 rating to gicve much longer life than those with 200.
PS sorrty but I use the Dunslop mostly because too many of us here got such low performance and wear from stuff like their SP31's and clones while getting very good performance and wear on their hipo tires.
Based on a couple of Fits here with Direzza Stars, thats still true.
#48
OEM Dunlop's for the Fit are not too good as we all know. The Dunlop Graspic is a great Ice tire and I ran them on my Civic's here in Colo for several years.
I just changed over from the Lops to Hankook Ventus V2. What a difference. Nice and quiet now and a good track down the road. So far the cornering is precise and what you would expect from the Fit. I will admit the old Dunlop's did hold a pretty tight line.
The OEM Fit Dunlop's however have been some of the worst tires I have ever seen and the noise actually would hurt my ears at times. I am glad to be rid of them at only 18000 miles and they did not wear worth a their value.
Tires really are everything and these Hankooks look great and give a little distinction.
I just changed over from the Lops to Hankook Ventus V2. What a difference. Nice and quiet now and a good track down the road. So far the cornering is precise and what you would expect from the Fit. I will admit the old Dunlop's did hold a pretty tight line.
The OEM Fit Dunlop's however have been some of the worst tires I have ever seen and the noise actually would hurt my ears at times. I am glad to be rid of them at only 18000 miles and they did not wear worth a their value.
Tires really are everything and these Hankooks look great and give a little distinction.
#50
Understand that most tire manufacturers, even Michelin, make a line of tires for the OEM trade. But all of them make tires for better performance, too. For examle Dunlop Star Direzza line which is the tire of choice for A/Xers and trackees on street rubber. When you buy tires consult tirerack.com for their tire tests, especially lap times on dry and wet runs on their little travck and the tire wear ratings. The utog ratings aren't precise but a pretty good representation of the epected tire tread life. And yes, as the UTOG generally increases performance generally decreases except for mpg.
#51
Understand that most tire manufacturers, even Michelin, make a line of tires for the OEM trade. But all of them make tires for better performance, too. For examle Dunlop Star Direzza line which is the tire of choice for A/Xers and trackees on street rubber. When you buy tires consult tirerack.com for their tire tests, especially lap times on dry and wet runs on their little travck and the tire wear ratings. The utog ratings aren't precise but a pretty good representation of the epected tire tread life. And yes, as the UTOG generally increases performance generally decreases except for mpg.
#54
Japanese Dunlops dont have the greatest reputation, but have been Honda OE for a very long time. My 1968 Honda motorcycle came with Dunlop. (Yes, I'm that old). My Tundra came with Bridgestone, which were pretty good. Those that got the Dunlops complained. Dunlop was originally a British company that was bought out by Sumitomo in 1985. Goodyear bought the US-European part in 1999. German Dunlops that come on BMWs are very good.
A suspension engineer for GM told me that OE tires are mainly specified for roundness and balance as well as cost. Note that new cars have few or even no wheel weights.
A suspension engineer for GM told me that OE tires are mainly specified for roundness and balance as well as cost. Note that new cars have few or even no wheel weights.
#55
im at 7k and uhh i need to replace those oem tires they suck i went up and downa canyon 6 times smashing my front tire r at the 3month marker lol ahha and they look cracky ima going next with the dunlop dz101 or the hankookevov12 fuk them so called sport tire oem shit lol here my review there good on smooth ride and gas lol but performance chales they suck the featehr crack ect not ment for smashing lol Cuz im a LAMO
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#56
Japanese Dunlops dont have the greatest reputation, but have been Honda OE for a very long time. My 1968 Honda motorcycle came with Dunlop. (Yes, I'm that old). My Tundra came with Bridgestone, which were pretty good. Those that got the Dunlops complained. Dunlop was originally a British company that was bought out by Sumitomo in 1985. Goodyear bought the US-European part in 1999. German Dunlops that come on BMWs are very good.
A suspension engineer for GM told me that OE tires are mainly specified for roundness and balance as well as cost. Note that new cars have few or even no wheel weights.
A suspension engineer for GM told me that OE tires are mainly specified for roundness and balance as well as cost. Note that new cars have few or even no wheel weights.
#57
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#58
Hmm. I am at about 55k miles on my car, and still have the original Dunlop tires on them. I love them though... I've driven my boyfriend's Scion XB and hated those tires so much. I've never had any trouble on wet roads in my Fit, but the XB handled it very poorly.
The dealership was wanting $750 or so to replace my tires with the same brand/type (inlcuding installation and alignment, etc) but I felt like that was a bit much. So that's the only reason I'm looking at maybe getting a different type. If I could get some that can handle wet roads just as well as these Dunlops have, I'd be up for it.
But I'm a tire n00b. This is my first car, and the first time I will have to buy new tires for a car. I hate the road noise I get, but I think my case is different... Apparently my rear beam was out of tolerance when I bought the car. After several months (maybe a year?) of driving, my car developed a thud-thud-thud noise. Turns out the rear beam being out of tolerance caused some spot in my tire that makes noise all the time.
I'm not too picky about road noise, but I would love to get rid of that sound!!
The dealership was wanting $750 or so to replace my tires with the same brand/type (inlcuding installation and alignment, etc) but I felt like that was a bit much. So that's the only reason I'm looking at maybe getting a different type. If I could get some that can handle wet roads just as well as these Dunlops have, I'd be up for it.
But I'm a tire n00b. This is my first car, and the first time I will have to buy new tires for a car. I hate the road noise I get, but I think my case is different... Apparently my rear beam was out of tolerance when I bought the car. After several months (maybe a year?) of driving, my car developed a thud-thud-thud noise. Turns out the rear beam being out of tolerance caused some spot in my tire that makes noise all the time.
I'm not too picky about road noise, but I would love to get rid of that sound!!
#59
ive never heard of such a thing...and ive been trying many different tires on my various cars including the ones i currently own and the 20+ ive owned in the past.
the oem dunlops aren't performance tires by any means, but they are fine for the regular folk A to B transportation. my wife's been fine with it and she's already put about 30K miles on them...which is a crazy super bargain considering i only get about 8k miles on my RWD cars running tires that are $300+ each.
the oem dunlops aren't performance tires by any means, but they are fine for the regular folk A to B transportation. my wife's been fine with it and she's already put about 30K miles on them...which is a crazy super bargain considering i only get about 8k miles on my RWD cars running tires that are $300+ each.
#60
Hmm. I am at about 55k miles on my car, and still have the original Dunlop tires on them. I love them though... I've driven my boyfriend's Scion XB and hated those tires so much. I've never had any trouble on wet roads in my Fit, but the XB handled it very poorly.
The dealership was wanting $750 or so to replace my tires with the same brand/type (inlcuding installation and alignment, etc) but I felt like that was a bit much. So that's the only reason I'm looking at maybe getting a different type. If I could get some that can handle wet roads just as well as these Dunlops have, I'd be up for it.
But I'm a tire n00b. This is my first car, and the first time I will have to buy new tires for a car. I hate the road noise I get, but I think my case is different... Apparently my rear beam was out of tolerance when I bought the car. After several months (maybe a year?) of driving, my car developed a thud-thud-thud noise. Turns out the rear beam being out of tolerance caused some spot in my tire that makes noise all the time.
I'm not too picky about road noise, but I would love to get rid of that sound!!
The dealership was wanting $750 or so to replace my tires with the same brand/type (inlcuding installation and alignment, etc) but I felt like that was a bit much. So that's the only reason I'm looking at maybe getting a different type. If I could get some that can handle wet roads just as well as these Dunlops have, I'd be up for it.
But I'm a tire n00b. This is my first car, and the first time I will have to buy new tires for a car. I hate the road noise I get, but I think my case is different... Apparently my rear beam was out of tolerance when I bought the car. After several months (maybe a year?) of driving, my car developed a thud-thud-thud noise. Turns out the rear beam being out of tolerance caused some spot in my tire that makes noise all the time.
I'm not too picky about road noise, but I would love to get rid of that sound!!
OK here's your first step up from a noob.
All tire maufactuers, except possibly Michelin. offer a cheap tire to gain sales from manufacturers and Dunlop is no different.
Go to TireRack.com and check their tire tests and evaluations to choose a tire that does what you want, price conceded. Noise is one criteria of judgment, tire life, and performance are others and you can read reviews from buyers, too.
If performance is your main use, when you go to tire tests, perhaps a couple of them, go to the end and check lap time comparisons utimately instead of their opinions tho ofgten they agree.
Buy the tire that provides the most in your budget.
Youi may note that Dunlop offers a 'Star Direzza' line that is, for now, about as good as you can get for the money. So Dunslop makes the boittom and the top tires for street use. That can change overnite but you won't be that far off.
PS Grssroots Motorsports mag is another good source for performance tire testing if you can find an issue.
See, thats one step up from noob.
As for that flat-spotted tire that 'thuds' /I'm not so quick to say the rear axle was 'out-of-spec. Perhaps not fastened properly to the chassis but flat spotting is more often caused by skidding or a bad shock. And yes, we've seen a couple of Dunslop cheapies that easily flat spotted. One was bad shock the other skidding; both side tires flatspotted. Tire construction of tghose Dunslops isnt the greatest so that could be the reason also.
The solution is to evaluate yoiur tirte needs before buying, aka TireRack,GRM, and even R&T or C&D.
Last edited by mahout; 08-20-2012 at 11:14 PM.