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#9001
Totally agree ash.
I just take exception to saying the Civics are behind. Behind at what? The Si's get better fuel mileage than anything else in class and out handle almost everything.
I'd say that the Golf platform really only excels at one thing compared to the others and that's comfort. Led us to buying one, but I wouldn't say that makes the others lesser cars.
I'd say there are just a whole bunch of good choices and, if on a budget, you have to pick what's most important to you. Budget unlimited and you can probably have it all.
I just take exception to saying the Civics are behind. Behind at what? The Si's get better fuel mileage than anything else in class and out handle almost everything.
I'd say that the Golf platform really only excels at one thing compared to the others and that's comfort. Led us to buying one, but I wouldn't say that makes the others lesser cars.
I'd say there are just a whole bunch of good choices and, if on a budget, you have to pick what's most important to you. Budget unlimited and you can probably have it all.
#9003
Lol true dat Kenchan...I do drive a regular Joe-schmo Civic. Just with your talk of Sti and Golf-R I thought you were looking at another STI/R, not a non-STI WRX. So I'd say your experience of the sluggish response makes sense considering you're coming from such nice cars...some with tuned maps.
The GTI is a great car. I think they have a great interior, very roomy, fast. MPG is decent. But considering the 10k+ a year i drive I need something I don't have to worry about.
ASH - you bring up an excellent point...it is hard to go backwards but after driving the Miata I've definitely changed my mind some about 'needing' HP/TQ to have fun.
Regarding handling, I'd say the SI RSB I added helped reduce body roll quite a bit. I can feel the rear dig into turns more which is awesome and I can take curves, on/offramps with more confidence at speed than previously. Pretty happy with my $40 upgrade. =)
Also found some real numbers after performing the tune. With Stage 1 tune I'd get about +30whp (215whp) and +40-50wtq (260wtq).
Revising my resume is such a chore. Some jobs want a 1-page resume...that gets tough to consolidate. What am I putting on there? My name...education...email...previous experience with no detail on job..."gimme a job?" lol.
The GTI is a great car. I think they have a great interior, very roomy, fast. MPG is decent. But considering the 10k+ a year i drive I need something I don't have to worry about.
ASH - you bring up an excellent point...it is hard to go backwards but after driving the Miata I've definitely changed my mind some about 'needing' HP/TQ to have fun.
Regarding handling, I'd say the SI RSB I added helped reduce body roll quite a bit. I can feel the rear dig into turns more which is awesome and I can take curves, on/offramps with more confidence at speed than previously. Pretty happy with my $40 upgrade. =)
Also found some real numbers after performing the tune. With Stage 1 tune I'd get about +30whp (215whp) and +40-50wtq (260wtq).
Revising my resume is such a chore. Some jobs want a 1-page resume...that gets tough to consolidate. What am I putting on there? My name...education...email...previous experience with no detail on job..."gimme a job?" lol.
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#9006
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OG Club
Posts: 20,289
I generally agree with you, but this just isn't true. The CTR wins the battle in EVERY measurable way.
The CTR actually beats the highest level Golf (R) and the highest level Impreza (STI) at everything that can be measured in an objective way.
It's faster around EVERY track, faster in a drag race, pulls more g's on a skid pad, etc.
Now, subjective is a different story and you're entitled to your opinion. Personally, I find the Golfs more comfortable and find the ergonomics to be better.
That being said, the CTR is certainly not behind. It's leading the pack at everything else.
The CTR actually beats the highest level Golf (R) and the highest level Impreza (STI) at everything that can be measured in an objective way.
It's faster around EVERY track, faster in a drag race, pulls more g's on a skid pad, etc.
Now, subjective is a different story and you're entitled to your opinion. Personally, I find the Golfs more comfortable and find the ergonomics to be better.
That being said, the CTR is certainly not behind. It's leading the pack at everything else.
#9007
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OG Club
Posts: 20,289
please tell me moar! my GTI is modded so don’t remember how it drives vs stock. want to like da civic si but my head is still leaning more towards the wrx.
#9008
Join Date: Dec 2007
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also ctr might shine on da track but i don’t drive track. AWD>FWD on street no question.
shinjari- those are good numbers with the tune.
new interviews coming up?
shinjari- those are good numbers with the tune.
new interviews coming up?
#9009
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OG Club
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If you are going to track the car yep the CTR is the one. For the street pick what you like, the performance of the 3 listed are the same when driven sanely on the street. I'd pick the Golf R, because I like to be comfortable.
Pretty amazing how good cars have become over the years. We have HP & mileage. Life is good these days for a car guy.
Ken - The power of your STI has spoiled you. I do understand, it is hard to go a different direction.
Pretty amazing how good cars have become over the years. We have HP & mileage. Life is good these days for a car guy.
Ken - The power of your STI has spoiled you. I do understand, it is hard to go a different direction.
#9010
I think the CSi would be worth a drive before finalizing the decision on the WRX. A test drive would probably cement the decision one way or the other.
WRX certainly has the advantage of AWD for snow use, but otherwise I think you could achieve your goals for more than $10k less with the CSi.
WRX certainly has the advantage of AWD for snow use, but otherwise I think you could achieve your goals for more than $10k less with the CSi.
#9012
Strange thing to consider...
Is it better to have AWD for a new driver or better for them to experience wheel spin?
I think it helped me learn how to drive having the 5.0 early. I'm now really good at controlling wheel spin and not being the least bit afraid of it. Maybe that's a bad thing though? LOL
Is it better to have AWD for a new driver or better for them to experience wheel spin?
I think it helped me learn how to drive having the 5.0 early. I'm now really good at controlling wheel spin and not being the least bit afraid of it. Maybe that's a bad thing though? LOL
#9013
Join Date: Dec 2007
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I think the CSi would be worth a drive before finalizing the decision on the WRX. A test drive would probably cement the decision one way or the other.
WRX certainly has the advantage of AWD for snow use, but otherwise I think you could achieve your goals for more than $10k less with the CSi.
WRX certainly has the advantage of AWD for snow use, but otherwise I think you could achieve your goals for more than $10k less with the CSi.
anyway da price delta is big.. hell i can probably put da difference (after gti trade) on my amazon credit card. lol.
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#9014
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OG Club
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Strange thing to consider...
Is it better to have AWD for a new driver or better for them to experience wheel spin?
I think it helped me learn how to drive having the 5.0 early. I'm now really good at controlling wheel spin and not being the least bit afraid of it. Maybe that's a bad thing though? LOL
Is it better to have AWD for a new driver or better for them to experience wheel spin?
I think it helped me learn how to drive having the 5.0 early. I'm now really good at controlling wheel spin and not being the least bit afraid of it. Maybe that's a bad thing though? LOL
#9016
My Son turns 8 soon. I know it's a bit early, but I feel like I should pick up a Crown Vic police car (CVPI) while they are still cheap and plentiful.
It's the perfect learner IMO. Rear drive, limited slip, v8, packed in a chassis that is very safe, competent, and disposable.
It's the perfect learner IMO. Rear drive, limited slip, v8, packed in a chassis that is very safe, competent, and disposable.
#9017
Join Date: Dec 2007
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i do want to check out da cooper-s as well. yah my kid thinks it’s a silly looking car and it is but it’s where sport hatchbacks kinda all started and i won’t look poor as older people drive coopers for its coolness. however i would if parking a civic si next to my buddy’s bimmerz and benz at work.. dey probably tell me to park it elsewhere vs my corner spot.
#9018
Join Date: Dec 2007
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My Son turns 8 soon. I know it's a bit early, but I feel like I should pick up a Crown Vic police car (CVPI) while they are still cheap and plentiful.
It's the perfect learner IMO. Rear drive, limited slip, v8, packed in a chassis that is very safe, competent, and disposable.
It's the perfect learner IMO. Rear drive, limited slip, v8, packed in a chassis that is very safe, competent, and disposable.
#9020
I like the pearl white because it's a silver pearl and not a color. That being said, I also like the black, blue, silver, and steel. All are good colors to me.
Edit....remember all Honda black are pearl also. Not sure if that matters.
Edit....remember all Honda black are pearl also. Not sure if that matters.