Shifting a Sport 5AT?
#41
04-18-2007, 06:26 PM
Not for me, when I am in S mode and using the paddles, I have redlined in First. It wouldn't auto shift for me at all. It will only autoshift down if you decelerate.
I haven't tried to not use paddles while in S. IF you are in D you can use the paddles to down and up shift, but once you start to accelerate it will take over.
I am pretty sure the Auto (D) has gone into 5th for me... I will go get my manual, but I don't see why it wouldn't.
#42
04-18-2007, 07:11 PM
Checked the manual.
D does go from 1-5 on all models.
In S mode, if you don't hit the paddles at all, will only shift from 1-4 (for stop and go driving, the manual says)
When in S mode you Hit either of the Paddles the car will NOT upshift for you. But may down shift if you are decelerate stop a stop (to first) or from 5th to 4th if you slow to a certain speed or press the brake pedal. But from my experience it takes a good amount of speed drop for that to happen.
D does go from 1-5 on all models.
In S mode, if you don't hit the paddles at all, will only shift from 1-4 (for stop and go driving, the manual says)
When in S mode you Hit either of the Paddles the car will NOT upshift for you. But may down shift if you are decelerate stop a stop (to first) or from 5th to 4th if you slow to a certain speed or press the brake pedal. But from my experience it takes a good amount of speed drop for that to happen.
#43
04-19-2007, 12:53 AM
the one thing i liked, is that in S mode when fully stopped you can choose between 1st and 2nd gear to start back up with.
and youre right WFH, it's like that with my car.
Maybe different cars have different actions, he said to read the manual, his may say something different.
and youre right WFH, it's like that with my car.
Maybe different cars have different actions, he said to read the manual, his may say something different.
#44
04-19-2007, 02:38 AM
Personally, I don't feel the need of using the S mode... while always in D I use the + paddle shifter to upshift from 1st up to the 5th gear never letting the RPM go over 3K but for downshifting I let the AT do its own routine...
Chris
Chris
#45
04-19-2007, 04:35 AM
I only did the S thing for 2 days, when i had to fill up and the little red light was on (the gas one)
havent used S since then, it was nice, but the impact to my pocket was a little hard, so i now drive on D only...
#48
04-19-2007, 12:57 PM
I find that in D while 'breaking in' the engine the paddles were helpful to vaccuum break the motor.
#50
04-20-2007, 09:14 PM
Yes, North America gets 5 speed conventional automatic with lock up torque converter.
#53
04-23-2007, 09:18 AM
Some even get the CVT-7 which is a CVT with 7 computer generated shift points if you want to use the paddles. Every country but the US and Canada can get a cvt in one form or another I wish we could get one here. I love mine in my civic hybrid.
On the topic of low gas mileage with the paddles. I use mine to shift earlier then D mode will allow and I increase my MPG a little that way.
At the same time I have used the paddles to keep the car close to red line when I am following friends in faster cars during acceleration.
On the topic of low gas mileage with the paddles. I use mine to shift earlier then D mode will allow and I increase my MPG a little that way.
At the same time I have used the paddles to keep the car close to red line when I am following friends in faster cars during acceleration.
#54
04-25-2007, 01:52 PM
There seems to be much confusion about how the paddle shifters work. This is how they work in MY Fit:
In D, I can paddle shift up or down. The car will then override my shifting when it wants to (I've not fully tested the conditions).
In S, if I don't touch the shifters, the car will shift from first to second to third. During my commute, I was unable to go fast enough to see if it will shift into fourth. These shifts occurred at about 3000 rpm, while in D, they occurred at about 2500 rpm.
Once I use either paddle in S mode, I am now in manual mode, and the engine will redline if I don't upshift. I haven't fully tested this, as I do not like the sound of the engine near redline, especially if I'm only going 20 mph. However, the car WILL downshift by itself, usually skipping second, and going right from third to first as I stop. I can shift into fifth gear from fourth only if I am going above about 35mph.
Is this behavior different than anyone else's car?
In D, I can paddle shift up or down. The car will then override my shifting when it wants to (I've not fully tested the conditions).
In S, if I don't touch the shifters, the car will shift from first to second to third. During my commute, I was unable to go fast enough to see if it will shift into fourth. These shifts occurred at about 3000 rpm, while in D, they occurred at about 2500 rpm.
Once I use either paddle in S mode, I am now in manual mode, and the engine will redline if I don't upshift. I haven't fully tested this, as I do not like the sound of the engine near redline, especially if I'm only going 20 mph. However, the car WILL downshift by itself, usually skipping second, and going right from third to first as I stop. I can shift into fifth gear from fourth only if I am going above about 35mph.
Is this behavior different than anyone else's car?
Is there anything wrong with driving at the highest gear possible? I can usually drive in 5th gear at only 35mph, and I can start the car from a stop in 2nd. Will this put excess strain on the engine though?
#55
04-25-2007, 01:58 PM
the one thing i liked, is that in S mode when fully stopped you can choose between 1st and 2nd gear to start back up with.
and youre right WFH, it's like that with my car.
Maybe different cars have different actions, he said to read the manual, his may say something different.
and youre right WFH, it's like that with my car.
Maybe different cars have different actions, he said to read the manual, his may say something different.
#56
04-25-2007, 11:39 PM
I've redlined mine a few times... sometimes I forget i'm in S mode..lol. But I'm always on S mode unless I'm changing songs on my mp3 player. (ok sometimes when I answer the phone)
Here's what I know and what I've noticed:
At start, when you put into S mode, it will not activate until you press the downshift paddle (left paddle). When u do, it starts at 1st gear. If you drive on S mode without activating it, it does not shift to 5th gear. It will always shift up to 4th. I think that's there to let you know that you are in S mode.
It does not shift in S mode. You will redline it. The needle will bounce, the engine will rev up and down quickly.
Yes you can down shift when the RPM is right. If the RPM is too high, it will not down shift. You can see the gear number that you want to shift to, blink, then it goes back to the gear number that you are on.
-Tomi
Here's what I know and what I've noticed:
At start, when you put into S mode, it will not activate until you press the downshift paddle (left paddle). When u do, it starts at 1st gear. If you drive on S mode without activating it, it does not shift to 5th gear. It will always shift up to 4th. I think that's there to let you know that you are in S mode.
It does not shift in S mode. You will redline it. The needle will bounce, the engine will rev up and down quickly.
Yes you can down shift when the RPM is right. If the RPM is too high, it will not down shift. You can see the gear number that you want to shift to, blink, then it goes back to the gear number that you are on.
-Tomi
#57
04-29-2007, 04:18 AM
It does have some form of a alarm, idk how she set it off, but my mom set it off while i was washing the car.
I dont know if it has a motion/shake sensor, but it probably will set the alarm off if you open any of the doors while its set. Real eazy to test, just roll the windows down, set the alarm then open a door, pop the hood or the hatch, and see if the alarm goes off. I imagian it does since somebody said you cant hit the lock button twice and honk the horn if the hood or hatch is poped.
I dont know if it has a motion/shake sensor, but it probably will set the alarm off if you open any of the doors while its set. Real eazy to test, just roll the windows down, set the alarm then open a door, pop the hood or the hatch, and see if the alarm goes off. I imagian it does since somebody said you cant hit the lock button twice and honk the horn if the hood or hatch is poped.
I don't know for sure about the base but on the SPORT they come with a full alarm system installed. If you don't pay the extra for the alarm system, Honda takes out a chip and all you have is the basic door unlock and alarm if someone opens the door with something other than the key, such as breaking the window and opening it from the inside.
If you pay the extra for the alarm they out the chip back in and then it has a shock sensor as well.
#58
04-29-2007, 04:27 AM
I've never driven a manual car, only automatics, but now I have a VBP Sport 5AT and I've been playing with the paddles quite a bit. First of all, S and D mode seem pretty much the same to me, but it may just be my driving (I have a fairly heavy foot).
In Manual mode, I usually start out from a stop in 2nd, and then shift up as soon as I can, which is at about 5mph for 3rd, and 25mph for 4th. Since during my commute I rarely get above 30mph, I am not sure exactly where the shift point for 5th is. I've never redlined the car, as it just doesn't feel right to hear the engine so loud and going so slow. Once I came close, but almost instinctively shifted to quiet the engine.
My thinking is that by shifting the car as early as possible, my RPMs will be as low as possible, which will help fuel efficiency (right now, I'm getting about 22mpg, but I only have about 350 miles on it).
Is there anything wrong with starting out in 2nd instead of 1st? Sometimes, if I shift into 2nd, and never get very fast, I can stop again and the car will stay in 2nd, but usually it will shift into 1st. Am I doing more harm than good by driving this way?
In Manual mode, I usually start out from a stop in 2nd, and then shift up as soon as I can, which is at about 5mph for 3rd, and 25mph for 4th. Since during my commute I rarely get above 30mph, I am not sure exactly where the shift point for 5th is. I've never redlined the car, as it just doesn't feel right to hear the engine so loud and going so slow. Once I came close, but almost instinctively shifted to quiet the engine.
My thinking is that by shifting the car as early as possible, my RPMs will be as low as possible, which will help fuel efficiency (right now, I'm getting about 22mpg, but I only have about 350 miles on it).
Is there anything wrong with starting out in 2nd instead of 1st? Sometimes, if I shift into 2nd, and never get very fast, I can stop again and the car will stay in 2nd, but usually it will shift into 1st. Am I doing more harm than good by driving this way?
#59
04-29-2007, 04:45 AM
It seems to me when I read the manual it did say the S mode is only a 4 speed mode unless you shift it into 5th using the paddle.
#60
04-29-2007, 04:48 AM
I run my Fit in Sport and use the paddles all the time. I shift earlier than the car does automatically in S or D, and keep my rpms lower. This has yielded a slight increase in my efficiency. However, is there any disadvantage (other than a lack of power) to starting out in 2nd instead of first? Does it put more stress on the engine?