Mileage reports: Manual transmission (5MT)
#361
I'm sure it would; however, my initial message was in reply to someone who inquired why the mileage estimates on this topic were not more precise. The gas credit card receipts registers gallons used, out to three decimal places, and my spreadsheet already rounds those figure down to two digits, when I log every tank. I just posted the calculations that had already been done.
#362
Perhaps you are mistaking me for someone else. I never said a range of numbers is an average. I posted my mileage numbers accurate to two digits, and you said one digit would suffice. Does my posting to two digits create a problem for you?
#363
No, I'm not mistaking you for anyone else. You are the one who said: "my initial message was in reply to someone who inquired why the mileage estimates on this topic were not more precise", correct? See, that "someone" was me, and you misunderstood my point. An average should be precise in the sense of being precisely one number, as opposed to a range of numbers. You appear to have mistakenly thought I meant precise in the sense of having two decimal places, which I never said nor implied.
I didn't say you did. I simply explained what my original point was, which you didn't seem to grasp initially.
Not in and of itself, but the fact that you didn't understand my first post, and responded to a point I never made, created a problem, which I remedied by explaining it to you. Is that a problem for you?
I never said a range of numbers is an average.
I posted my mileage numbers accurate to two digits, and you said one digit would suffice. Does my posting to two digits create a problem for you?
#364
[quote=Fitty McFit;170124]No, I'm not mistaking you for anyone else. You are the one who said: "my initial message was in reply to someone who inquired why the mileage estimates on this topic were not more precise", correct? See, that "someone" was me, and you misunderstood my point. An average should be precise in the sense of being precisely one number, as opposed to a range of numbers. You appear to have mistakenly thought I meant precise in the sense of having two decimal places, which I never said nor implied.
I didn't say you did. I simply explained what my original point was, which you didn't seem to grasp initially.
Not in and of itself, but the fact that you didn't understand my first post, and responded to a point I never made, created a problem, which I remedied by explaining it to you. Is that a problem for you?
Your point was that many of the responses to mileage requests were to a range of number, and that is not precise. I then gave you my VERY PRECISE FIGURES, rounded off to two decimal places, to which you responded by saying that "one decimal place would be sufficient." Duh!
The only question for you is? Were my numbers precise, or weren't they? Can you answer that?
I didn't say you did. I simply explained what my original point was, which you didn't seem to grasp initially.
Not in and of itself, but the fact that you didn't understand my first post, and responded to a point I never made, created a problem, which I remedied by explaining it to you. Is that a problem for you?
Your point was that many of the responses to mileage requests were to a range of number, and that is not precise. I then gave you my VERY PRECISE FIGURES, rounded off to two decimal places, to which you responded by saying that "one decimal place would be sufficient." Duh!
The only question for you is? Were my numbers precise, or weren't they? Can you answer that?
#366
Your point was that many of the responses to mileage requests were to a range of number, and that is not precise. I then gave you my VERY PRECISE FIGURES, rounded off to two decimal places, to which you responded by saying that "one decimal place would be sufficient." Duh!
The only question for you is? Were my numbers precise, or weren't they? Can you answer that?
Obviously, you can't answer that!
The only question for you is? Were my numbers precise, or weren't they? Can you answer that?
Obviously, you can't answer that!
#367
I thought I'd post up a little summary of my mileage so far. I started posting my mileage when I got the car, but I didnt keep up with it. Now, with 79XX miles, up until the last 2 tanks, I am probably at around an average of 32mpg. I'll have to go back and check my records, but I think that's about right. My lowest and only tank below 30mpg was 29.2 mpg and that included like 3 hours of 2mph traffic jam. My usual tanks are around 33, but around 6 or 7 weeks ago, I started getting alot of 30, 31 tanks, even though my driving/route/habits/gas station didnt change at all. So I did the idle learn procedure, and 2 tanks later, I got a 37.5, and a 35.5, which were my last 2 tanks. On the 37.5, I actually had the a/c going pretty much the entire trip since I had the GF in the car.
All in all, I'm totally happy with the mileage. Even more so now that I got those 2 really high tanks, which I am hoping I can repeat more before we start getting the crappy, mpg lowering winter fuel mixes at the pumps in november.
I'm still hoping to break 40mpg, which could come in 3 weeks when I head to ohio.
All in all, I'm totally happy with the mileage. Even more so now that I got those 2 really high tanks, which I am hoping I can repeat more before we start getting the crappy, mpg lowering winter fuel mixes at the pumps in november.
I'm still hoping to break 40mpg, which could come in 3 weeks when I head to ohio.
#368
I thought I'd post up a little summary of my mileage so far. I started posting my mileage when I got the car, but I didnt keep up with it. Now, with 79XX miles, up until the last 2 tanks, I am probably at around an average of 32mpg. I'll have to go back and check my records, but I think that's about right. My lowest and only tank below 30mpg was 29.2 mpg and that included like 3 hours of 2mph traffic jam. My usual tanks are around 33, but around 6 or 7 weeks ago, I started getting alot of 30, 31 tanks, even though my driving/route/habits/gas station didnt change at all. So I did the idle learn procedure, and 2 tanks later, I got a 37.5, and a 35.5, which were my last 2 tanks. On the 37.5, I actually had the a/c going pretty much the entire trip since I had the GF in the car.
All in all, I'm totally happy with the mileage. Even more so now that I got those 2 really high tanks, which I am hoping I can repeat more before we start getting the crappy, mpg lowering winter fuel mixes at the pumps in november.
I'm still hoping to break 40mpg, which could come in 3 weeks when I head to ohio.
All in all, I'm totally happy with the mileage. Even more so now that I got those 2 really high tanks, which I am hoping I can repeat more before we start getting the crappy, mpg lowering winter fuel mixes at the pumps in november.
I'm still hoping to break 40mpg, which could come in 3 weeks when I head to ohio.
A question for you though, I'm curious, what is the "idle learn" procedure that you spoke of? I'm not familiar with that. Thanks for any response.
#369
Black Sport 5MT '07
First tank, from dealer
257.9 miles/8.923 gallons = 28.9MPG - Mixed, mainly city, A/C on
Second tank, I didn't write down the numbers, but with 2 passengers, and A/C on, it was only 22.3 mpg (???)
181.6 miles/5.577 gallons = 32.56MPG - Mixed, mainly city, A/C on
240.7 miles/8.309 gallons = 28.97MPG - City, A/C on
Does mileage usually improve after "break-in"? How many miles, generally, is the "break-in" period considered to be?
First tank, from dealer
257.9 miles/8.923 gallons = 28.9MPG - Mixed, mainly city, A/C on
Second tank, I didn't write down the numbers, but with 2 passengers, and A/C on, it was only 22.3 mpg (???)
181.6 miles/5.577 gallons = 32.56MPG - Mixed, mainly city, A/C on
240.7 miles/8.309 gallons = 28.97MPG - City, A/C on
Does mileage usually improve after "break-in"? How many miles, generally, is the "break-in" period considered to be?
#371
First Tank
I got 37.2 mpg on my first tank. A/C on most of the time and 70/30 highway/city.
Decreases in winter gas mileage could be from the drop in fuel quality in winter, less energy per gallon. Also California has crappy gas too from what I've read.
Decreases in winter gas mileage could be from the drop in fuel quality in winter, less energy per gallon. Also California has crappy gas too from what I've read.
#372
first 2 tanks mixed driving 50/50 city/hwy 38.1MPG.
anything above 35Mph on flat road I'm in fifth.. I drive mostly going 60mph on the highway I don't slow down much for curves. I rarely make complete stops. Always leave it in 4th or 5th when coasting often right to a stoplight (or 1000rpm) I'm a very fuel efficient driver with the fit. I do i to make up for the 9MPG I get in my fun car.
anything above 35Mph on flat road I'm in fifth.. I drive mostly going 60mph on the highway I don't slow down much for curves. I rarely make complete stops. Always leave it in 4th or 5th when coasting often right to a stoplight (or 1000rpm) I'm a very fuel efficient driver with the fit. I do i to make up for the 9MPG I get in my fun car.
#373
fuel blends? altitude? humidity? temperature? terrain? head/tailwind? who knows.
Just returned from a road trip from Central TX to NM, CO and back.
My base MT Fit is 1 yr old. Vehicle had 14K on it when we left and we drove a little over 2700 miles on the trip.
I keep the tires at recommended 32-34 psi.
Have been getting consistent 40mph driving mostly hwy here at home.
In TX "regular" unleaded is 87 octane and the gas I buy has no ethanol in it.
In NM "regular" unleaded is 86 octane so I bought "mid-grade" which is 88, because the Fit manual says don't go below 87.
In CO "regular" unleaded is 85 octane so I bought "mid-grade" which is 87 but all the gas I bought in CO contained ethanol, I believe 10%.
MPG results:
We got 40+ mpg on the TX blend westbound, 37+mpg eastbound.
We got 42+ on one tank and 43+ on the other using NM blend.
We got 42+ on one tank and 43+ on the other using CO blend.
What does this mean?
1. The gas formulas are different.
2. Gas in TX is hotter than gas in CO or NM, so less dense when pumped, hence less Btus per volume unit.
3. We coasted every chance we got in those mts. Apparently the energy required to climb hills is more than offset by that recaptured by coasting whenever possible.
4. Headwind/tailwind is a big deal with a hi profile vehicle like the Fit, and it is more of a problem in the flatlands (for mpg, anyway).
5. We drove 70-80mpg in the [dull and boring] flatlands, and slower in the [scenic/treacherous] hilly terrain (except a few times we coasted really fast just for fun).
6. We used AC in TX and far east NM, then didn't need it in rest of NM or CO, and used it again on return trip.
7. 10,000 ft of elevation can make a difference in fuel combustion efficiency (?)
8. Humidity (stifling here in TX, absent in CO and NM) can make a difference in fuel combustion efficiency (?)
With so many variables (and folks in this forum could probably add some more to my list) I am just pleased that my little car ate so little on this trip. It performed marvelously well, took those hills like a champ despite its first year in the flatlands of central TX, carried a stunning amount of baggage, was not hurt when caught in a nasty hailstorm (I do not recommend this however)--and delivered us home safely.
Great little car.
My base MT Fit is 1 yr old. Vehicle had 14K on it when we left and we drove a little over 2700 miles on the trip.
I keep the tires at recommended 32-34 psi.
Have been getting consistent 40mph driving mostly hwy here at home.
In TX "regular" unleaded is 87 octane and the gas I buy has no ethanol in it.
In NM "regular" unleaded is 86 octane so I bought "mid-grade" which is 88, because the Fit manual says don't go below 87.
In CO "regular" unleaded is 85 octane so I bought "mid-grade" which is 87 but all the gas I bought in CO contained ethanol, I believe 10%.
MPG results:
We got 40+ mpg on the TX blend westbound, 37+mpg eastbound.
We got 42+ on one tank and 43+ on the other using NM blend.
We got 42+ on one tank and 43+ on the other using CO blend.
What does this mean?
1. The gas formulas are different.
2. Gas in TX is hotter than gas in CO or NM, so less dense when pumped, hence less Btus per volume unit.
3. We coasted every chance we got in those mts. Apparently the energy required to climb hills is more than offset by that recaptured by coasting whenever possible.
4. Headwind/tailwind is a big deal with a hi profile vehicle like the Fit, and it is more of a problem in the flatlands (for mpg, anyway).
5. We drove 70-80mpg in the [dull and boring] flatlands, and slower in the [scenic/treacherous] hilly terrain (except a few times we coasted really fast just for fun).
6. We used AC in TX and far east NM, then didn't need it in rest of NM or CO, and used it again on return trip.
7. 10,000 ft of elevation can make a difference in fuel combustion efficiency (?)
8. Humidity (stifling here in TX, absent in CO and NM) can make a difference in fuel combustion efficiency (?)
With so many variables (and folks in this forum could probably add some more to my list) I am just pleased that my little car ate so little on this trip. It performed marvelously well, took those hills like a champ despite its first year in the flatlands of central TX, carried a stunning amount of baggage, was not hurt when caught in a nasty hailstorm (I do not recommend this however)--and delivered us home safely.
Great little car.
Last edited by ifitfitz; 09-10-2007 at 02:51 PM.
#374
First 5 Tanks
Gallons___P/Gal___Miles____Miles/Type__MPG
12.250___2.859___435.2___50/50______35.53
12.095___2.799___456.0___50/50______37.7
12.207___2.619___445.9___50/50______36.53
12.225___2.639___449.4___50/50______36.76
12.269___2.779___452.6___50/50______36.89
NOTE: AC on all the time...
I think I see a pattern ...
Cappy
12.250___2.859___435.2___50/50______35.53
12.095___2.799___456.0___50/50______37.7
12.207___2.619___445.9___50/50______36.53
12.225___2.639___449.4___50/50______36.76
12.269___2.779___452.6___50/50______36.89
NOTE: AC on all the time...
I think I see a pattern ...
Cappy
Last edited by mr-cappy; 09-11-2007 at 11:28 PM.
#375
Average 35 MPG
I purchased my M/T base fit in February from a dealer with 7 miles on the odometer. I'm over 10K miles I have tracked every fill up and average 35.41 MPG. I drive 80% hwy (70 mph) and use 87 octane with the AC always on. I'm very pleased.
#376
Mileage better than anticipated
These mileage forums were invaluable to me when I was choosing which economy car to buy this past summer. I chose the Honda Fit (manual), based on mileage reports and "fun factor" and have been quite happy. Thought I'd pass on my results to help others in their decision making.
I picked up my Fit on July 4th weekend (after a 6 week wait). Over the past few months, I have gone over 4000 miles, mostly commuting to work. I check and log the mileage and fuel used at each fill-up. So far my overall average is 41.6 MPG, better than I had expected. I am basically a conservative driver, 65MPH on the highway, but not afraid to put my foot into it occasionally when merging or passing. My first tank was 38.2 MPG and steadily increasing since then, with a max of 43.2 MPG.
Other details:
Fit Sport 5MT
42 PSI in the tires
Some work junk in the back (50 lbs)
50% I-90 Mass Pike / 40% Suburban / 10% City
25% AC (or less)
10% ethanol blend here in smoggy MA
Always 400+ miles per tank, typical fill is about 9.5 gal (fuel light is on)
Waiting to see what winter gas blend & cold starts (soon) and snow tires (Dec 15 or so - a must in Western MA) do to stunt the great run of gas mileage numbers I've had.
Thanks to all the Fit Forum users for sharing their info; it helped me make a solid decision.
I picked up my Fit on July 4th weekend (after a 6 week wait). Over the past few months, I have gone over 4000 miles, mostly commuting to work. I check and log the mileage and fuel used at each fill-up. So far my overall average is 41.6 MPG, better than I had expected. I am basically a conservative driver, 65MPH on the highway, but not afraid to put my foot into it occasionally when merging or passing. My first tank was 38.2 MPG and steadily increasing since then, with a max of 43.2 MPG.
Other details:
Fit Sport 5MT
42 PSI in the tires
Some work junk in the back (50 lbs)
50% I-90 Mass Pike / 40% Suburban / 10% City
25% AC (or less)
10% ethanol blend here in smoggy MA
Always 400+ miles per tank, typical fill is about 9.5 gal (fuel light is on)
Waiting to see what winter gas blend & cold starts (soon) and snow tires (Dec 15 or so - a must in Western MA) do to stunt the great run of gas mileage numbers I've had.
Thanks to all the Fit Forum users for sharing their info; it helped me make a solid decision.
#380
Gas Mileage
I cannot speak for anyone else but I have noticed keeping a steady pressure on the gas pedal as well as keeping your RPM'S as low as you can gave me the best gas mileage! This is easier said then done but I have found releasing and pressing the gas pedal multiple times eats alot more gas then having a constant pressure on the pedal. Again I think it just simply comes down to your RPM'S...the more revolutions your engine has to turn your fuel management system will compensate by increasing the fuel flow as well as your engine will be sucking in more air!!
This is all probably first grade stuff but next time you are driving pay attention to how many times you release and press your gas pedal. You will suprised, sometimes you are doing it more often then not. If you do need to speed up or vice versa I have been gradually pressing the pedal verses completely pressing at once. Our Vtec kicks in around 3,500 / 3,700 RPM meaning more air flow = more gas compensation. Any shifting over 4 grand IMAO eats alot more gas. Again I cannot always shift at 4 grand but when I am trying to save gas this is what I do. I hope this helps.
GD3blaze07'
This is all probably first grade stuff but next time you are driving pay attention to how many times you release and press your gas pedal. You will suprised, sometimes you are doing it more often then not. If you do need to speed up or vice versa I have been gradually pressing the pedal verses completely pressing at once. Our Vtec kicks in around 3,500 / 3,700 RPM meaning more air flow = more gas compensation. Any shifting over 4 grand IMAO eats alot more gas. Again I cannot always shift at 4 grand but when I am trying to save gas this is what I do. I hope this helps.
GD3blaze07'