Fit snow, winter tires,winter driving questions??
#82
Originally Posted by YeLoW
I'm a newb Fit manual sport driver who lives in Canada. My stock rims are 15" . I was wondering if I should go with 15" steelies or 14" ones. Is there an advantage/disadvantage to have a smaller set of winters?
#83
Originally Posted by ticats
My understanding is that the offset for the Fit's 14" oem rim is 55 mm and that the bolt pattern is 4x100. There are a lot of used 4x100 Civic rims around but not (as far as I know) with a 55 mm offset.
#84
Originally Posted by kps
The DX/LX/USbase steel rims have a 45mm offset.
#85
Got to drive my Fit on snow for the first time, if you want to call it that. It was about 1/4 inch deep. Anti-locks worked great until I got to the corner where it was just ice. They helped some but only spikes work great on ice. Didn't have any trouble getting rolling or stopping. Took it nice and easy an it did great. Can't wait to get some deeper snow to see how it does. I had a CRX back in the late 80s and it did great. Hope the Fit does the same.
#87
Originally Posted by ticats
Thanks. I haven't been involved with imports since the 80s. Any idea what year(s) the Civics used these 14 x 5.5, 4 x 100, 45 mm offset rims?
Accord 1982-1989
Civic 1980-2005
CRX 1982-1992
Del Sol 1993-1997
Insight 2003-2006
Prelude 1982-1991
Edit: in this thread someone found that certain Civic wheels hit the calipers.
Last edited by kps; 12-08-2006 at 01:39 PM.
#88
Studded snows?
All:
Ice is a problem in my area of the world (and they are legal here). I am thinking of going with a set of studded snow tires for the Fit. Has anyone else run studded tires on the Fit, and anyone know how much more noise increase it causes, and if there are any negatives to studs on dry pavement between snows?
Thanks!
Ice is a problem in my area of the world (and they are legal here). I am thinking of going with a set of studded snow tires for the Fit. Has anyone else run studded tires on the Fit, and anyone know how much more noise increase it causes, and if there are any negatives to studs on dry pavement between snows?
Thanks!
#89
Yesterday we had pretty snowy roads and whiteout conditions, and I had (thankfully) put the Dunlop Winter Sport M3s on last Sunday. The car did very, very well. I was in far more control than most cars on the road. The only problem I found was with the car is very light and upright. On a snowy bridge with a crosswind you really need to be paying attention. In pretty much all other conditions, the car performs very well. I feel very safe in my Fit.
JonasM
JonasM
#90
yall aint got nothing on me
2 feet of snow in london yesterday and not much of it was cleared this morning ... after an hour and a half of shoveling the driveway and clearing the car of snow (there was ALOT) i thought to myself ... time for a spirited winter drive
i can report that the fit does handle itself very well in the snow ... when ground clearance isn't an issue ...
even though i'm on the base fit which i estimate has about half an inch of clearance over the sport models there were many situations where i grounded out, this is not entirely the car's fault as this snow storm hit us out of nowhere and snow removal was not up to par (usually they clear it before most people wake up)
other then that i'm very satisfied with the fit's handling, i havnt even changed to winter tires (still on the stock 175 all seasons) and i didnt lose traction at all (except for the afformentioned grounding out parts), in my family's other car (2001 corolla which IS equipped with snow tires) i'd slide all over the place which is alot of fun but probably not the safest thing in the world. the fit on the other hand gripped and gripped, i had to conciously try to make it break loose for it to do so. another gripe i have with the fit is the abs kicks in rather early which is not really desirable in my mind
2 feet of snow in london yesterday and not much of it was cleared this morning ... after an hour and a half of shoveling the driveway and clearing the car of snow (there was ALOT) i thought to myself ... time for a spirited winter drive
i can report that the fit does handle itself very well in the snow ... when ground clearance isn't an issue ...
even though i'm on the base fit which i estimate has about half an inch of clearance over the sport models there were many situations where i grounded out, this is not entirely the car's fault as this snow storm hit us out of nowhere and snow removal was not up to par (usually they clear it before most people wake up)
other then that i'm very satisfied with the fit's handling, i havnt even changed to winter tires (still on the stock 175 all seasons) and i didnt lose traction at all (except for the afformentioned grounding out parts), in my family's other car (2001 corolla which IS equipped with snow tires) i'd slide all over the place which is alot of fun but probably not the safest thing in the world. the fit on the other hand gripped and gripped, i had to conciously try to make it break loose for it to do so. another gripe i have with the fit is the abs kicks in rather early which is not really desirable in my mind
#91
Nokians
As Jonas said, we had a decent snowfall here in Cleveland yesterday and the roads were very slippery. I had a set of Nokian Hakkapilliita RSI's put on my blue base Fit three weeks ago. These tires are awesome and well worth the price. I don't recall slipping or sliding at all. These tires weren't too bad on dry roads either. The Nokians are pricey, but the Finns have their act together when it comes to snow tires
#92
Originally Posted by bill1952
As Jonas said, we had a decent snowfall here in Cleveland yesterday and the roads were very slippery. I had a set of Nokian Hakkapilliita RSI's put on my blue base Fit three weeks ago. These tires are awesome and well worth the price. I don't recall slipping or sliding at all. These tires weren't too bad on dry roads either. The Nokians are pricey, but the Finns have their act together when it comes to snow tires
In a general statement, I rode the last big storm with the original base fit wheels. The worked great, no slipping and definitly held in traction through turns. Had to pull the e-brake for some rally action, scared the s*** out of my gf, but the Fit can handle the rough weather with ease.
Rally cars use tiny narrow tires for more direct weight on snow or dirt roads for more direct contact. Same holds true for the tiny ass base model tires- 175/65/14s
#93
For snow tires it's best to contact Jim@tirerack.com for more info.
Studded snow tires are good for hard packed frozen mud or ice and heavy snow.
When the ice is gone and there are dry roads your studded tires will have LESS traction due to running the tires on the studs. It's like walking on the sidewalk with golf shoes on.
To do well on the dry roads you need more rubber contact.
Studded tires also tend to be noisy and could wear road surfaces more- hence some areas have laws on when studded tires can be used in the winter months.
Studded snow tires are good for hard packed frozen mud or ice and heavy snow.
When the ice is gone and there are dry roads your studded tires will have LESS traction due to running the tires on the studs. It's like walking on the sidewalk with golf shoes on.
To do well on the dry roads you need more rubber contact.
Studded tires also tend to be noisy and could wear road surfaces more- hence some areas have laws on when studded tires can be used in the winter months.
#95
We run studded snows up here in the winter. JB and I are about to get them put on our vehicles. EVERYONE here runs them and once the snow is gone, they do tend to run a little louder with a constant tapping. Obviously they're going to be loud since they're studs biting into the snow. Haven't run them on the Fit yet, but I think we have a Monday appt. I dunno what tires she's running, but I'm running Blizzaks ftw
#96
Originally Posted by jbrisson
We run studded snows up here in the winter. JB and I are about to get them put on our vehicles. EVERYONE here runs them and once the snow is gone, they do tend to run a little louder with a constant tapping. Obviously they're going to be loud since they're studs biting into the snow. Haven't run them on the Fit yet, but I think we have a Monday appt. I dunno what tires she's running, but I'm running Blizzaks ftw
I am just trying to figure out what the noise level will be with the studs....at 70 MPH.
#97
Originally Posted by Granit
I will soone have to put winter tires on my Fit. These will go on the original 14inch rims.
I know nothing about tires...
Any suggestions ?
and why?
I know nothing about tires...
Any suggestions ?
and why?
#98
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossom
Got them from Tire Rack on steel rims for $527 (includes shipping)
#99
contact patch size doesnt really change when you move from narrow tire to a wider tire (within a reasonable range) keeping tire pressure constant
the reason a narrower tire works better in the snow is it tends to "cut" into the surface alot easier then a wide tire, same reasoning for why a wide tire hydroplanes easier
there's a really scientific way to explain the relationship between grip and contact patch shape but thats too nerdy and i dont want to go into it
the reason a narrower tire works better in the snow is it tends to "cut" into the surface alot easier then a wide tire, same reasoning for why a wide tire hydroplanes easier
there's a really scientific way to explain the relationship between grip and contact patch shape but thats too nerdy and i dont want to go into it
#100
Originally Posted by KnifeEdge_2K1
...the reason a narrower tire works better in the snow is it tends to "cut" into the surface alot easier then a wide tire, same reasoning for why a wide tire hydroplanes easier...