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why!? are mugen wheels so expensive!!??

so obviously the answer to this question is BECAUSE THEY ARE MADE MY MUGEN! but i was looking at nrs like Illusives and i think there gorgeous wheels i love them i want them but for 300 dollars per wheel i would think that mugen would be able to engineer a wheel thats only 15 inches that weighed less that 16 lbs! even rota and konig make 15 inch wheels that weigh close to 11 lbs 11 lbs vs 16 lbs 100 dollars a wheel vs 300 dollars per wheel! something seems seriously wrong with that lol :P what would be the advantage of of having a "performance racing wheel" if it was as heavy as the stock alloys that come with the fit....just me venting about my dissapointment.... thanks for reading.
 
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:01 AM
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plus u get to distinguish ur self from the rota/drag/konig replicas crowd...

I Love My NRs!
 
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:18 AM
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so obviously the answer to this question is BECAUSE THEY ARE MADE MY MUGEN! but i was looking at nrs like Illusives and i think there gorgeous wheels i love them i want them but for 300 dollars per wheel i would think that mugen would be able to engineer a wheel thats only 15 inches that weighed less that 16 lbs! even rota and konig make 15 inch wheels that weigh close to 11 lbs 11 lbs vs 16 lbs 100 dollars a wheel vs 300 dollars per wheel! something seems seriously wrong with that lol :P what would be the advantage of of having a "performance racing wheel" if it was as heavy as the stock alloys that come with the fit....just me venting about my dissapointment.... thanks for reading.
You're paying for the name. If people were bright enough to avoid the hype, the prices would be a bit lower. There's also a bit of a premium on Japanese products regardless. I was looking at Mine's suspension for my R35 direct from Mine's and it was something like $9,000-$11,000USD for a coilover set. Granted, the suspension is integrated into the electronics, but still. And $700 for these:



Those ducts are Arios'. I couldn't find a pic of Zele's/Harrisons. But those prices don't include shipping. Crazy.
 
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name and quality.


shit someone can pay like what 400 for rota boosts

but what is it like 1500 for a brand new set of advan rg2.

forged wheels and cast wheels are different price.
 
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:48 AM
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I wanted the NR until I saw how much they weigh.
I wonder how much the Konig knockoff of the nr weigh.
Would be funny if the replica weigh less then the original.
 
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Yes for one thing the wheels are always in a limited quantity, they are forged which is not only good for weight but strength, they always look good, you never half to worry if the bolt pattern will work or not. But I do have to say they shouldnt be that much. But some other wheel company's like ssr for instance or work wheels can be just as much or more. Who you buy the wheels from makes a difference to. Now I personally want a set of 16inch mf-8's, I I do exspect to pay top dollar for a set (IF I CAN FIND THEM). Plus if you are going to buy a cheap wheels thats prolly exactly what you are going to get cheap.
 
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Originally Posted by SD_MR_FIT
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shit someone can pay like what 400 for rota boosts

but what is it like 1500 for a brand new set of advan rg2.

forged wheels and cast wheels are different price.
i agree but most people dont NEED forged wheels. they break easier than cast. when the rg2s came out, there was a thread on HT about how easily they break. i think someone broke a spoke autoxing them. the original rgs arent even forged are they? i think JDM wheels cost so much more cause they are the ones that pay a person to think or creative ideas. rota/konig just copy someone elses time and effort. kind of like reprinting art. sometimes a copy looks as good as the original, but the original is priceless. that being said, im not about to pay over $1000 for a set of wheels that are on a daily driven car with 109 hp.
 
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Originally Posted by 12o177e
plus u get to distinguish ur self from the rota/drag/konig replicas crowd...

I Love My NRs!

yah, only in your head.

i dont get why people would spend that kind of money on wheels
especially a dd Fit. if it was a heavily modified weekend Fit race
car or something, i suppose it would be worth it.

for me, my current nice looking copies do fine. i dont feel any less
distinguished for some "cheap" $1500 set of wheels. you need to
open your eyes to what 19"+ wheels cost on other cars, especially
for FR platforms. that's where you start seeing some real numbers...

i was joking to my wife that my drag wheelset, i bought one and
got the other 3 free. that's wat it seems like. dogs and cats
can piss on it while im away and i wouldn't care. id just get a
replacement.
 
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no they are cast. but its like cast aluminum or something like that.

its super hard to fix a bend from what i here.


the MAIN reason why people pay so much, is for the RARITY.

try finding yourself a set of 17" advan rg's in gold. 4x100 pattern. took me 3 years, and that was from a homie who sold his car for a vip lexus. i had to do my researched on the guy who he sold his integra for. found out he had a gambling problem and swooped in for the kill. offered him cash, and he had to let them go


same thing like NR's. you barely see them on the streets, its more typical for people to buy the ce28s and stuff because they are so easy to find.

the only other wheel that i would speed more then 1200 for is the regamasters, enkei j speed 3 polished diamond cut center, and of course the carving stark rennasport rc.


wheels make the car, when someone rolls up with a nice car and rocking rotas....it kills the whole vibe. but even a cheap and slow car like mine can roll up and it gets jocked madly.

i see other cars with rare wheels and im like "OMG *drools*"

for daily driving i say rock rotas, only because its so hard to watch the road. im scared crapless about scratching my wheels. i just havnt had the money yet to find me 15" steelies to rock.
 
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you pay that price for the Mugen rims because ALL of their wheels dont have very long production lifes. They last a couple years then get discontinued. Not that they arent as rare as CE28's, its just CE28s and TE37's have been around for a LONG time.
 
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Originally Posted by c_mack9
i agree but most people dont NEED forged wheels. they break easier than cast. when the rg2s came out, there was a thread on HT about how easily they break.
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no they are cast. but its like cast aluminum or something like that.

its super hard to fix a bend from what i here.
Cast wheels are softer than forged wheels. Forged wheels are more rigid because they pack more density into a spoke/rim section than flow casting. That's why forged wheels cost more than cast wheels. Cast wheels are cheaper to replace and are typically the better choice for daily driving. People get caught up in buying forged wheels because they think it's cool to have a certain brand. I find it ridiculously stupid to pay a ton of money for wheels because everybody else is doing it. Not saying anybody here is doing this, but I've seen it on a lot of forums.
 
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Its all about what you want, if you just like the way they look and could care less if they are the real ones, then buy them its your money, if you want something most people wont have then buy the mugens, if you want something to auto-x on then buy something light and strong, if you just want something that will look good buy what ever you can find that will fit, but in the end its personal preference. I want a set of mf-8's cause they to me look good and I know Im not going to see any body else with them prolly, might see someone with the rota copies which might look the same. I would rather have the mugen ones, 17inch gold rg are nice to but I dont think I would ever be lucky enuff to find a set of those in a 4x100 for any price. But buy what you want real or fake, just dont go to a car show with the fake ones and lye or try and pass them off as the real ones cause the hardcore JDM guys will no the difference on sight
 
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HONDAJUNKIE
Its all about what you want, if you just like the way they look and could care less if they are the real ones, then buy them its your money, if you want something most people wont have then buy the mugens, if you want something to auto-x on then buy something light and strong, if you just want something that will look good buy what ever you can find that will fit, but in the end its personal preference. I want a set of mf-8's cause they to me look good and I know Im not going to see any body else with them prolly, might see someone with the rota copies which might look the same. I would rather have the mugen ones, 17inch gold rg are nice to but I dont think I would ever be lucky enuff to find a set of those in a 4x100 for any price. But buy what you want real or fake, just dont go to a car show with the fake ones and lye or try and pass them off as the real ones cause the hardcore JDM guys will no the difference on sight
That's what happened with Leon Casino and his CR-X. He bought a bunch of stuff bragging about how real it was and then got exposed.
 
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Originally Posted by JDMchris.com
you pay that price for the Mugen rims because ALL of their wheels dont have very long production lifes. They last a couple years then get discontinued. Not that they arent as rare as CE28's, its just CE28s and TE37's have been around for a LONG time.
Correcto.

And they hold and most of the time go up in value while owning them.
Check JDMland for older Mugen wheels. Even beat Mugen wheels go for 900+
 
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Correcto.

And they hold and most of the time go up in value while owning them.
Check JDMland for older Mugen wheels. Even beat Mugen wheels go for 900+
On a side note, some early Mugen wheels were pretty prone to cracking and bending. I have no clue why they're still so popular, other than the Mugen name.
 
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anyone see the J-Line wheels? VERY VERY nice. I like them more than any other brand. :P
 
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anyone see the J-Line wheels? VERY VERY nice. I like them more than any other brand. :P
I actually ordered a few sets from them for a couple projects some time last year and never got them. They make nice wheels, but they were going through some issues with staffing and were having delivery issues with FedEx (who isn't these days? ). James was telling me about a set of wheels he made for a guy that were like 24K gold Scooby Doo's. He said they were weird and expensive as hell, but the guy loved them. He didn't send me any pics though.
 
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On a side note, some early Mugen wheels were pretty prone to cracking and bending. I have no clue why they're still so popular, other than the Mugen name.
Theyll still sell for over a G cracked.

That pink chrome is pretty sick on those Jlines. IDK if thats offered through Jline or its custom?
 
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Originally Posted by Mx6GT89
Theyll still sell for over a G cracked.

That pink chrome is pretty sick on those Jlines. IDK if thats offered through Jline or its custom?
Daaaang @ $1k cracked wheels. haha

JLine does everything to order. Practically any design you want, in any color you want. What they show is the main wheels they carry, but if you call them, they'll do pretty much anything for the right price. Like the guy with the Scooby's. I think James said the guy paid like $1K a piece for them. Usually takes them about 6 weeks but I've seen them first-hand and they're top-notch.
 
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Originally Posted by Mx6GT89
Theyll still sell for over a G cracked.

That pink chrome is pretty sick on those Jlines. IDK if thats offered through Jline or its custom?
jLines are PREMIUM custon wheels! they make them JUST like you ask for them so there is VERY little chance somoene has them...but i do agree dont buy then for a dd instead get some decent looking wheels then get nice tires and wheels for shows (if you go to those)
 


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