TPMS wheels
#1
TPMS wheels
are there any other wheels that will accommodates the tire pressure monitoring system other than the stock set? If so, are there any in bigger sizes (such as 17's or even 18's). Or for everyone who's already changed there wheels, how do you disable the system so you don't get the annoying light on the dash.
#3
I dont know if this helps but i just swapped the tpms from my stock wheels to my aftermarket 16x7 wheels, it cost me about $70 in labor. im not sure if it's going to work if you go 17 or 18, but i think it should? another thing, after i got my aftermarket wheels with the tpms installed i still had the annoying light, but after driving about 10 miles it turned off. the guy at the tire shop said that i was suppose to mark the position of the oem tires and tpms before removing the wheels, something to do with keeping the settings of the tpms to the the computer on car. i installed the aftermarket wheels myself not knowing this before going to the tire shop. if that light comes back on i might have to go to honda and have them reset it?
#4
as I said in the TPMS thread...
it wouldn't make sense that have to keep track of which wheel went where, if that was the case you could never do a tire rotation if you had TPMS without having to go back to the dealer to get it reset.
it wouldn't make sense that have to keep track of which wheel went where, if that was the case you could never do a tire rotation if you had TPMS without having to go back to the dealer to get it reset.
#7
TPMS sensors and systems
In my automotive class, we have the privelage of access to Honda's ACTUAL dealer training site. We watched an instructional video on TPMS and Honda's TPMS systems. There are two kinds of systems:
1. A single Receiver placed in the "center" of the car that recieves a small radio signal from 4 sensors placed in each rim. The four sensors tell the receiver in which position they are on the car (FL, FR, RR, RL) via small changes in the radio frequency.
2. There are 4 Receivers, each one mounted near the strut tower over it's corresponding wheel position. These too recognize a specific frequency of their partner sensor.
The 2nd type is found on CRVs, Pilots, and other top end honda models. The only reason they have the two types is the 2nd type uses less battery power from the TPMS sensors to communicate with the receivers. Honda has a seperate scan tool that communicates and syncronizes with the TPMS sensors. The TPMS system WILL throw a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) if the tires have been rotated ONLY on the 2nd type of system. Although, Honda re-codes the sensors in our type of TPMS system (1st type) because the DTCs are wheel position indicating. So if the sensors arn't recoded after the tires are rotated and you have an underinflated tire, you will get a code for a low pressure by a sensor in the wrong position.
So, yes, your honda dealer reprograms the sensors EVERY time your tires are rotated. Should we worry about it, not unless you go to the dealer to figure out which tire is low. Since our Fits have the 1st system, it isn't crucial to have our TPMS sensors reprogramed after a rotation. You might get a TPMS light because communication was lost between your receiver and the sensors... seing as they communicate for 20 minutes after you shut the car off.
As for TPMS sensors on aftermarket rims, i'm curious about that too. I havn't seen our sensors in person (only ones off a MDX) so i couldn't tell you how they are mounted and/or transferred.
Hope my TPMS imformation clears up some questions!
1. A single Receiver placed in the "center" of the car that recieves a small radio signal from 4 sensors placed in each rim. The four sensors tell the receiver in which position they are on the car (FL, FR, RR, RL) via small changes in the radio frequency.
2. There are 4 Receivers, each one mounted near the strut tower over it's corresponding wheel position. These too recognize a specific frequency of their partner sensor.
The 2nd type is found on CRVs, Pilots, and other top end honda models. The only reason they have the two types is the 2nd type uses less battery power from the TPMS sensors to communicate with the receivers. Honda has a seperate scan tool that communicates and syncronizes with the TPMS sensors. The TPMS system WILL throw a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) if the tires have been rotated ONLY on the 2nd type of system. Although, Honda re-codes the sensors in our type of TPMS system (1st type) because the DTCs are wheel position indicating. So if the sensors arn't recoded after the tires are rotated and you have an underinflated tire, you will get a code for a low pressure by a sensor in the wrong position.
So, yes, your honda dealer reprograms the sensors EVERY time your tires are rotated. Should we worry about it, not unless you go to the dealer to figure out which tire is low. Since our Fits have the 1st system, it isn't crucial to have our TPMS sensors reprogramed after a rotation. You might get a TPMS light because communication was lost between your receiver and the sensors... seing as they communicate for 20 minutes after you shut the car off.
As for TPMS sensors on aftermarket rims, i'm curious about that too. I havn't seen our sensors in person (only ones off a MDX) so i couldn't tell you how they are mounted and/or transferred.
Hope my TPMS imformation clears up some questions!
Last edited by The BOM; 04-05-2008 at 09:45 PM.
#10
Ok so do you have the light? I am about to get my heliums and i'm curious to know if i have to go to the dealer for them to hook it up because i don't want the light on all the time...
#11
Going by what the BOM said yes you would have to go to the dealership so they can reset your tpms so it reads to the right tire. I would just leave the light on mine is it really isn't that annoying. Not worth paying a garage a butt load to make it go away at least.
#12
#15
i don't know where u got your info from but i know for a fact that it is wrong. i'm a honda tech and we never had to reset the sensors after a rotation nor changing out a rims has a effect on the sensors. if the sensor goes bad for any reason thats when you would have to use the manf. scan and the tpms tool to relearn the sensors. only the odyssey lets you which tire has a faulty sensor. it would read on the display that the tire has 100+ psi every time, and the pilot would only show you a lil hazard icon on the dash. i'm sorry that you have been givin the wrong input, but you should double check your info before you post.
#18
i don't know where u got your info from but i know for a fact that it is wrong. i'm a honda tech and we never had to reset the sensors after a rotation nor changing out a rims has a effect on the sensors. if the sensor goes bad for any reason thats when you would have to use the manf. scan and the tpms tool to relearn the sensors. only the odyssey lets you which tire has a faulty sensor. it would read on the display that the tire has 100+ psi every time, and the pilot would only show you a lil hazard icon on the dash. i'm sorry that you have been givin the wrong input, but you should double check your info before you post.
Thank you for a better but not complete story on the tpms, there will never be a time when you have to "program" the sensor, as long as you are matching the proper sensor to the proper system you will never have to program them.
If the light is on when you first install a new sensor drive about 10 miles and it'll go away.
#20
are there any other wheels that will accommodates the tire pressure monitoring system other than the stock set? If so, are there any in bigger sizes (such as 17's or even 18's). Or for everyone who's already changed there wheels, how do you disable the system so you don't get the annoying light on the dash.
Most people put a piece of black electrical tape over the TPMS warning lite. So much for "I'm from the gov'ment and I'm here to help you" senario.