preview - only if you like coilovers
#2
AMR Civic Strut
I took a look at a McPherson Strut at the request of Andrew Rayes.
Latter I found out Mr. Rayes is actually the manufacturer of struts and shocks.
His web sight is found at:
http://www.amrengineering.com/index.html
(They have an AW11 set as well)
The unit Andy sent me to look at was as raced on his personal car.
It is a mono-tube all threaded steel body. Take-apart design with a 9 position rebound adjuster.
This particular version tested has an inline separating piston. Dividing the Nitrogen charge from the damping fluid. (This is my personal favorite if package length allows it)
It has a 44 mm internal bore size (same as Ohlins)
And uses a steel piston with an O-ring backed (bore) sealing band. Just like the big guys Penske and Ohlins.
The working piston resembles an Ohlins. And use Deflected disk technology.
Leading to easy tuning and calibration by the owner (if he has the skills and tools required).
The shims are metric sizes with a 12mm center hole. Look like they could interchange with Bilstein or Ohlins. This unit was assembled using lock-tight and did require a small amount of heat from a propane torch to disassemble. But this practice is quite common in the shock industry.
As no manufacture want to be responsible for strut parts under high pressure accidently becoming loose. Or having an inexperienced user try to service the unit incorrectly.
And have it release its contents in your face.
Do not take this lightly_without training and proper tools. Do not attempt to service or tune a gas shock!
The quality and workmanship of the working shaft and shock body bore seem quite good.
And appear to be a good value.
The shaft seal it self is one I have not seen before. And has a bit more seal force drag than the high end players. But it appears to be of long lasting material. And does not exhibit the low shaft speed sticktition problems I have found in other struts in this price range.
The adjuster is quite effective. And covers a large range with nice linear steps between positions.
Andrew Rayes appears to be a hands on owner. Who is not only a club racer. But is headquartered here in the USA. And is personally committed to his products and service.
You will not find this in the shock world today!
The shock was easy to work with. And is of good quality.
Add to this service and sales in the USA.
My feeling at this time. This unit will be a hard one to beat!
And I can not wait to take a look at the AMR Struts for the AW11
Submitted by Alex Szilagyi
http://forums.evolutionm.net/northwe...-tracks-2.html
Itrader EvoX
EvoXForums.com - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Forums
I took a look at a McPherson Strut at the request of Andrew Rayes.
Latter I found out Mr. Rayes is actually the manufacturer of struts and shocks.
His web sight is found at:
http://www.amrengineering.com/index.html
(They have an AW11 set as well)
The unit Andy sent me to look at was as raced on his personal car.
It is a mono-tube all threaded steel body. Take-apart design with a 9 position rebound adjuster.
This particular version tested has an inline separating piston. Dividing the Nitrogen charge from the damping fluid. (This is my personal favorite if package length allows it)
It has a 44 mm internal bore size (same as Ohlins)
And uses a steel piston with an O-ring backed (bore) sealing band. Just like the big guys Penske and Ohlins.
The working piston resembles an Ohlins. And use Deflected disk technology.
Leading to easy tuning and calibration by the owner (if he has the skills and tools required).
The shims are metric sizes with a 12mm center hole. Look like they could interchange with Bilstein or Ohlins. This unit was assembled using lock-tight and did require a small amount of heat from a propane torch to disassemble. But this practice is quite common in the shock industry.
As no manufacture want to be responsible for strut parts under high pressure accidently becoming loose. Or having an inexperienced user try to service the unit incorrectly.
And have it release its contents in your face.
Do not take this lightly_without training and proper tools. Do not attempt to service or tune a gas shock!
The quality and workmanship of the working shaft and shock body bore seem quite good.
And appear to be a good value.
The shaft seal it self is one I have not seen before. And has a bit more seal force drag than the high end players. But it appears to be of long lasting material. And does not exhibit the low shaft speed sticktition problems I have found in other struts in this price range.
The adjuster is quite effective. And covers a large range with nice linear steps between positions.
Andrew Rayes appears to be a hands on owner. Who is not only a club racer. But is headquartered here in the USA. And is personally committed to his products and service.
You will not find this in the shock world today!
The shock was easy to work with. And is of good quality.
Add to this service and sales in the USA.
My feeling at this time. This unit will be a hard one to beat!
And I can not wait to take a look at the AMR Struts for the AW11
Submitted by Alex Szilagyi
http://forums.evolutionm.net/northwe...-tracks-2.html
Itrader EvoX
EvoXForums.com - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Forums
#7
i am still looking to support amr considering how well their hardware has held up on evos in rally. evos are fairly heavy and rally will definitely break your shit if you run junk such as megans, teins, killer bee, and some of the other bullshit that passes for suspension.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...ment-read.html
#9
it's like the matrix - welcome to reality. and i don't say that to insult anyone. nothing personal at all but if someone is going to spend money on coilovers, please don't get tein.
#11
You should tell Loi Song to take off the TEIN SRC coilovers off his record-breaking time attack Civic Hatch then. It's all good to promote AMR Engineering, but don't go bashing on companies that actually make good products.
#12
KW has enjoyed success in the very serious motorsports arena, though they don't have the same name-dropping recognition as JRZ, Ohlins, Moton here in the states. ultimately, if you want coilovers for something other than dropping your car onto its bumpstops, off-the-shelf solutions from KW are pretty poor, evident in their spring rate selection. with that said, you can get a set of "custom" valved and sprung KWs that are fantastic, though pricey.
#13
so, understand that i support AMR by choice, not because of incentive. my opinions are my own based on my experience, some of which is first hand and some of which is because i learn from others, and should not be seen to speak for andy@amr (the real one) or anyone else that i choose to support (swift springs, the guys that make the rsb on my wife's fit, KW when i used to have a set of their clubsports, etc). such is the power of networking and the internet.
Last edited by kennef; 12-22-2009 at 08:40 PM.
#15
side note not related to coilovers - how many folks have complained about blown dampers on tein springs? not just in the fit community, but across platforms? it's just hard to take "dress up" springs seriously, sorry.
#17
when it comes to suspension, JIC also does not rate. not as bad as tein et al but still not worth your money. JIC is rebuild city, for those that can tell they need a rebuild.
KW has enjoyed success in the very serious motorsports arena, though they don't have the same name-dropping recognition as JRZ, Ohlins, Moton here in the states. ultimately, if you want coilovers for something other than dropping your car onto its bumpstops, off-the-shelf solutions from KW are pretty poor, evident in their spring rate selection. with that said, you can get a set of "custom" valved and sprung KWs that are fantastic, though pricey.
KW has enjoyed success in the very serious motorsports arena, though they don't have the same name-dropping recognition as JRZ, Ohlins, Moton here in the states. ultimately, if you want coilovers for something other than dropping your car onto its bumpstops, off-the-shelf solutions from KW are pretty poor, evident in their spring rate selection. with that said, you can get a set of "custom" valved and sprung KWs that are fantastic, though pricey.
I pay my own bills too. No, I don't know Loi Song personally. Did I say that I did? I was using him as an example. His Civic, piloted by Tim Quo, clocked a blistering 1:55.948 at Buttonwillow CW.
#19
i'll just say this - it wouldn't be the first time that the stickers on a successful car don't match the equipment on the car. take it or leave it, i'm not going to get any further into it than that.
#20
point being that i would verify first that teins, built and custom valved by the engineers at tein, using tein parts and not just a green shock body with the real meat and potatoes made by someone else, were equipped on that car. if you have credible validation of that, then good for tein. tein does not have a good rep; the onus is on them to prove that they know what they are doing, as far as i'm concerned.
i'll just say this - it wouldn't be the first time that the stickers on a successful car don't match the equipment on the car. take it or leave it, i'm not going to get any further into it than that.
i'll just say this - it wouldn't be the first time that the stickers on a successful car don't match the equipment on the car. take it or leave it, i'm not going to get any further into it than that.