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Old 07-14-2009 | 11:40 AM
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Question tweaking caster

Hi all,
it happens I have recently got a Whiteline Anti Lift Kit installed on my "working" car (a Skoda Octavia, which shares its platform with the Golf V).

This kit essentially adds more caster to front suspension, so that handling, steer precision and stability is greatly improved. Sadly Whiteline isn't producing the kit for my Honda 2007 Jazz/Fit.

Are you aware of something similar for first generation Fit?

TIA,

Stefano
 
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Old 02-05-2011 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jazzista
Hi all,
it happens I have recently got a Whiteline Anti Lift Kit installed on my "working" car (a Skoda Octavia, which shares its platform with the Golf V).

This kit essentially adds more caster to front suspension, so that handling, steer precision and stability is greatly improved. Sadly Whiteline isn't producing the kit for my Honda 2007 Jazz/Fit.

Are you aware of something similar for first generation Fit?

TIA,

Stefano
Is it possible to fix caster on fit/jazz??
hmmm.. do update if there any brand to fix caster on our ride yah..
 
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Old 04-20-2011 | 11:16 AM
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Just discovered this one!

Nolathane

I mailed them, let's see...
 
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Old 04-20-2011 | 01:10 PM
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sorry but theres noy to adjust caster on our car without adjusting it with camber and it won't really br a true reading unless you do the rear first. but there are no oem adjustment you can use the shims in the rear but it does 2 degrees give or take. so good luck on this you really cant adjust the caster on the front of our 1st gens. only camber and toe.also you can only adjust the front camber with camber bolts
 
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Old 04-21-2011 | 05:15 AM
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Thanks for feedback, first of all.

Anyway, look at this: http://www.nolathane.com.au/bulletins/Update%201025.pdf

I've always been disturbed by the non existent realignment of my Jazz steering wheel and hope(d) this might fix it!
 
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Old 04-21-2011 | 09:43 AM
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that really wont do anything its not shifting the lower control arm. the way our control arms are set up wont work. we dont have A control arms like on the older civic but nice try?
 

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Old 04-21-2011 | 11:58 AM
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Bear with me, but it's too difficult for me to understand you.
 
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Old 04-21-2011 | 03:38 PM
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Bear with me, but it's too difficult for me to understand you.

the fits lower control arm is not the same as a civic. there is no adjustments with caster. the only way you can adjust it is threw camber that is all. what you showed in the earlier thread is a bushing witch is not going to do anything.

fit lower control arm


civic control arm


what you are trying to use is a bushing that will not do anything for your caster. thats why everyone i repeat everyone on the forum says that the fit sucks cause only camber and toe are adjustable!
on the suspesion side.
 

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Old 04-21-2011 | 04:28 PM
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the rear lca bushing w/ caster adjustment:

it will adjust the caster a bit, but will also change the camber, toe, and bump steer at the same time... not the best solution to do it on our control arms, but a good find nonetheless...



nice find on the bushings stephano.... those are the first set of poly bushings i've seen for the fit's lca's... PLEASE let me know how much the front (45658) and standard rear (45659) bushings are when they email you back...
 
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Old 04-21-2011 | 05:24 PM
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Hi all,
nxtfit_08 I don't know if you've read what's described on the link provided, I found this interesting: http://www.nolathane.com.au/susp_ident_images/16.jpg

@Scott, of course I will as soon as they're back... On my previous Octavia I had installed a whiteline kit that increased caster. Well I got a lot of advantages: more traction (no more "axletramp"), way more precise and "meaty" steering. I know this bushing will only be able to add a tiny caster amount, but - as you state - better than nothing...

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Stefano
 

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Old 04-22-2011 | 12:59 PM
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also: could you find the durometer (hardness) of both the bushings? just wondering what they chose for our cars...
 
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Old 04-23-2011 | 10:04 AM
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Couldn't yet find it online. I asked tech support (btw, their international email support doesn't seem lightning fast...)!
 

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Old 04-23-2011 | 10:54 AM
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^ apparently...
 
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Old 05-13-2011 | 11:41 AM
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any word...?
 
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Old 05-14-2011 | 04:40 PM
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Ahem,
bear with me Scott, a lot of troubles on job. Here's the mail I received, perhaps it's a step forward.

Stefano

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Hi Stefano,

Thank you for the email and interest in our products however Nolathane is only sold throughout Australia and NZ.
Unfortunately we do not have a lot of part numbers for this vehicle.
I have listed the available part numbers from our sister company called Whiteline Plus which is sold throughout the world.
Also, we have a facility in the U.S. that may be better able to service your needs.

F
Control arm - lower inner front bushing
W53375
F
Control arm - lower inner rear bushing
W53376
F
Control arm - lower inner rear bushing
W53377
F
Sway bar - link assembly
W23180

Please contact our American facility in Michigan for pricing and availability.

GLOBAL PERFORMANCE PARTS
4558, 128th AVENUE
HOLLAND MICHIGAN
49424 USA
Ph: +616 399 9025 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +616 399 9025 end_of_the_skype_highlighting


Don’t hesitate to contact me should you require any further information.

Thank you and regards.


Grant Atkin

Technical support,
Sales / Customer Service
REDRANGER PTY LTD
The home of Whiteline & Nolathane
4 Warringah Close
Somersby NSW 2250
Ph: +612 4340 2355 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +612 4340 2355 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
Fax: +612 4340 2466

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<img alt="Nolathane email footer" border="0" width="480" height="69">
www.nolathane.com.au
www.facebook.com/nolathane

<img alt="Whiteline email footer" border="0" width="480" height="69">
www.whiteline.com.au
www.facebook.com/whitelineflatout

www.whitelineplus.com.au

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Old 05-14-2011 | 08:03 PM
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they're part of whiteline?! awesome... good stuff...

looking up the info now...
 
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Old 05-14-2011 | 08:16 PM
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W53375 (standard front) is 59
W53376 (standard rear) doesn't have a price
W53377 (castor rear) is 93 (although the plus website lists it as p/n W53420)
W23180 (sway bar link) is 91

still looking...


emailed the guy in holland, mi (where i went to college
 

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Old 05-15-2011 | 10:43 PM
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the bushings are a 75a durometer... pretty middle-of-the-road... but in a good way...
 
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Old 05-16-2011 | 06:10 AM
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Hey Scott,
interested in your findings on which shop is selling these items...
 

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Old 05-16-2011 | 10:35 AM
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working on it...
 
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