upgrading jazz brakes
#1
upgrading jazz brakes
Dear Friends
i'm actually looking forward to upgrade the front and rear brakes myself, can any bro tell me which model of brake disc and caliper to use. I mean from other cars bigger rotor or bigger caliper piston. Not looking for expensive stuff like brembo or spoon & etc.
i appreciate your help! currently had a bigger piston caliper from some honda cars and the disc changing to 282 mm or 286 mm type. I had aproblem now is that most bigger rotor have a deep hub. I would appreciate that some bro could tell me which type of bigger rotor to use having a shallower hub rotor.
next is the rear brakes intend to change from a drum to a caliper type, so whats the recommendations from xperts out there?
thanks in advance!
will
i'm actually looking forward to upgrade the front and rear brakes myself, can any bro tell me which model of brake disc and caliper to use. I mean from other cars bigger rotor or bigger caliper piston. Not looking for expensive stuff like brembo or spoon & etc.
i appreciate your help! currently had a bigger piston caliper from some honda cars and the disc changing to 282 mm or 286 mm type. I had aproblem now is that most bigger rotor have a deep hub. I would appreciate that some bro could tell me which type of bigger rotor to use having a shallower hub rotor.
next is the rear brakes intend to change from a drum to a caliper type, so whats the recommendations from xperts out there?
thanks in advance!
will
#3
EK4 calipers + pads, EG (ESi) rotors.
no need to mod the existing Fit/Jazz knuckle whatsoever. All would be a direct bolt-on!
If Prelude or EK rotors are used, a min of at least 4mm would need to be shaved off the brake calipers themselves, and the knuckles would need to have an extra hole.
Wilwood do a 4pot caliper kit but would cost alot more (at least double).
For a rear drum to disc conversion you can purchase OEM Jazz disc kit parts from Honda Thailand where rear discs come standard.
no need to mod the existing Fit/Jazz knuckle whatsoever. All would be a direct bolt-on!
If Prelude or EK rotors are used, a min of at least 4mm would need to be shaved off the brake calipers themselves, and the knuckles would need to have an extra hole.
Wilwood do a 4pot caliper kit but would cost alot more (at least double).
For a rear drum to disc conversion you can purchase OEM Jazz disc kit parts from Honda Thailand where rear discs come standard.
Last edited by vividjazz; 11-04-2005 at 08:40 PM.
#4
jazz brake
tks vivid
you mean
1) EK4 calipers + pads, EG (ESi) rotors, is it 282 or 286 mm rotors or it is just 262mm?
2) i'm currently have a GSR integra caliper, probably need to shave off few mm of the thickness. I've tried the 286mm rotor, fit perfectly but only hub too deep so need to look for a rotor 282 or 286 mm with a shallow hub about 18 to 20mm deep only. Any recommendations?
3) Tks for the info for the purchase of the rear brake conversion kit, any idea what does it comes together? do i have to alter anything? how much is it bro? I'm now in singapore and how to get the kit?
Tks bro halo, i believe that getting a branded stuff will be better but i got budget constraint now. Simply just looking into a cheap way to inprove the brakes.
you mean
1) EK4 calipers + pads, EG (ESi) rotors, is it 282 or 286 mm rotors or it is just 262mm?
2) i'm currently have a GSR integra caliper, probably need to shave off few mm of the thickness. I've tried the 286mm rotor, fit perfectly but only hub too deep so need to look for a rotor 282 or 286 mm with a shallow hub about 18 to 20mm deep only. Any recommendations?
3) Tks for the info for the purchase of the rear brake conversion kit, any idea what does it comes together? do i have to alter anything? how much is it bro? I'm now in singapore and how to get the kit?
Tks bro halo, i believe that getting a branded stuff will be better but i got budget constraint now. Simply just looking into a cheap way to inprove the brakes.
#5
I think you'll find the 262mm the only easy fit.
Re rear brake parts. Need to order the seperate parts they haven't put them together as a kit but Honda dealers in Thailand will be very helpful and be able to work out all the necessary parts for you. Ballpark figure I've heard banded about is around A$500 for all the parts but may be less.
Changing your hoses to braided will help your braking as will better brake fluid but the easiest upgrade is to just change the pads. For street use you need pads rated from zero degrees for safety sake but a higher upper temperature limit will virtually eliminate fading.
I've heard good feedback about Endless VN8500 and WinmaX, but not the EBC Greenstuff pads.
I'm sure Spoon Sports and Mugen are great but their prices aren't.
Re rear brake parts. Need to order the seperate parts they haven't put them together as a kit but Honda dealers in Thailand will be very helpful and be able to work out all the necessary parts for you. Ballpark figure I've heard banded about is around A$500 for all the parts but may be less.
Changing your hoses to braided will help your braking as will better brake fluid but the easiest upgrade is to just change the pads. For street use you need pads rated from zero degrees for safety sake but a higher upper temperature limit will virtually eliminate fading.
I've heard good feedback about Endless VN8500 and WinmaX, but not the EBC Greenstuff pads.
I'm sure Spoon Sports and Mugen are great but their prices aren't.
Last edited by vividjazz; 11-05-2005 at 02:17 AM.
#6
AP Racing Brake Kit
Mine, front 295mm AP Racing Brake Kit for Honda Fit with APP Brake Line.
Rear modified from EK4+pad, AEM slotted rotor 286mm.
Endless DOT-4 Brake Fluid.
Excellent brake feeling with Turbo power.
http://autoshow.permaisuri.com/Conte...20050927212954
#7
brakes
Tks alot bro vividjazz, i will still explore the 286mm or 282mm rotor but still fail to find the correct size rotor hub depth. I will too change the brake pads to what you recommended for better braking as well.
Hi B26cw, you got a garang car! AP racing brake kit are abit too expensive for me. i'm actually trying to find the best way and the cheapest way to upgrade the brake to the best. I've so far got a set of 1/2 yr old GSR caliper for my front brake. It fits well for the bigger rotor but need furhter mod.
For the rear is a good suggestion using the EK4 caliper too
Still wondering if bros of this forum could help me suggest the best method, i would like to stick honda parts so far.
thanks in advance!
Hi B26cw, you got a garang car! AP racing brake kit are abit too expensive for me. i'm actually trying to find the best way and the cheapest way to upgrade the brake to the best. I've so far got a set of 1/2 yr old GSR caliper for my front brake. It fits well for the bigger rotor but need furhter mod.
For the rear is a good suggestion using the EK4 caliper too
Still wondering if bros of this forum could help me suggest the best method, i would like to stick honda parts so far.
thanks in advance!
#8
#9
What did you do with the rear brakes will? Is there a bracket for rear calipers, or did you swap the hubs or fabricate a bracket?
Was thinking about using drum to disc kit for an 6th gen Civic with factory rear drums...
Was thinking about using drum to disc kit for an 6th gen Civic with factory rear drums...
#10
rear brake
bro i still RnD stage for the rear brakes, will update you once have the ideas or successful in the project. i think bro vivid say thailand have the kit now and thailand jazz comes with a disc brake.
#11
I would try a drum to disc conversion...then you wont have to do anything to the master cylinder to maintain balance. Try www.powerslot.com, look at the Powerslot plus line, and check out the drum to disc conversions for the Civic...they come with brackets, calipers etc. Fastbrakes.com does it even cheaper.
#13
Originally Posted by will
Dear Friends
i'm actually looking forward to upgrade the front and rear brakes myself, can any bro tell me which model of brake disc and caliper to use. I mean from other cars bigger rotor or bigger caliper piston. Not looking for expensive stuff like brembo or spoon & etc.
i appreciate your help! currently had a bigger piston caliper from some honda cars and the disc changing to 282 mm or 286 mm type. I had aproblem now is that most bigger rotor have a deep hub. I would appreciate that some bro could tell me which type of bigger rotor to use having a shallower hub rotor.
next is the rear brakes intend to change from a drum to a caliper type, so whats the recommendations from xperts out there?
thanks in advance!
will
i'm actually looking forward to upgrade the front and rear brakes myself, can any bro tell me which model of brake disc and caliper to use. I mean from other cars bigger rotor or bigger caliper piston. Not looking for expensive stuff like brembo or spoon & etc.
i appreciate your help! currently had a bigger piston caliper from some honda cars and the disc changing to 282 mm or 286 mm type. I had aproblem now is that most bigger rotor have a deep hub. I would appreciate that some bro could tell me which type of bigger rotor to use having a shallower hub rotor.
next is the rear brakes intend to change from a drum to a caliper type, so whats the recommendations from xperts out there?
thanks in advance!
will
#14
Is that over $1,200 Australian just for 2 x disc rotors or 2 x rotors + calipers?
Either way DBA rotors can be had for alot less even cross drilled and slotted dba gold. Part number 2504 specifically for the Jazz is available in just slotted as well as slotted+crossdrilled. They currently only do fronts and unfortuantely DBA don't make calipers. www.dba.com.au
Either way DBA rotors can be had for alot less even cross drilled and slotted dba gold. Part number 2504 specifically for the Jazz is available in just slotted as well as slotted+crossdrilled. They currently only do fronts and unfortuantely DBA don't make calipers. www.dba.com.au
#16
brake caliper
bros
thanks for the info on the calipers, i believe thats only for the price of the calipers only without the rotors.
i have budget constrain, just want to stop the car faster. appreciate your kind response and i manage to convert my rotor size to 290mm plus slightly bigger caliper (honda) and bracket for just $850 sgd.
thanks for the info on the calipers, i believe thats only for the price of the calipers only without the rotors.
i have budget constrain, just want to stop the car faster. appreciate your kind response and i manage to convert my rotor size to 290mm plus slightly bigger caliper (honda) and bracket for just $850 sgd.
#17
from what honda were you able to get the 290mm rotors? are they bolt on to the jazz/fit hub? or were there any modifiactions done? how about mounting the GSR caliper to the steering knuckle, it it bolt on or did you change the knuckle?
#18
conversion
bro sleeper
rotor are not from honda as i know, my friend bought (new) it for me which he is unwilling to tell me cos its his trade secret. the hub size abit bigger and depth are the same the fit/jazz stock with 5 lugs which i have to drill 4 extra holes.
i did not change the knuckle and actually did a bolt on bracket but need to grind slightly on the edge of the caliper.
Trust me, everything fits very nicely and now the breaking power is great especially change the pads to after market type.
rotor are not from honda as i know, my friend bought (new) it for me which he is unwilling to tell me cos its his trade secret. the hub size abit bigger and depth are the same the fit/jazz stock with 5 lugs which i have to drill 4 extra holes.
i did not change the knuckle and actually did a bolt on bracket but need to grind slightly on the edge of the caliper.
Trust me, everything fits very nicely and now the breaking power is great especially change the pads to after market type.