Which coilovers?
#1
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Leandro / San Jose, CA
Posts: 625
Which coilovers?
Im still on stock suspension but want to get some coilover soon. I need help deciding with which brand of coilover to get. Want to make the first purchase right so i dont have to buy another set.
#3
i haven't studied the c/o offerings for the Fit in detail, but wat i can
tell you from experience on other cars that ive worked on is that you
want to get the ones that offer closest to your stock spring rates
if you want daily drivability... (somewhere ~F180lbs/in and R300lbs/in)
and get adjustable dampers.
imho, no sense getting c/o's if you can't adjust the damping.
no sense getting progressive rate springs since it won't be as
performance oriented with its variations rate while it compresses...
plus most people like to drop their cars low on c/o's. you want
linear rate so that your springs can do the work in short travel.
also, imho no sense getting c/o's if you're not planning to corner
balance your car. invest in adjustable endlinks. otherwise your
swaybar will put a preload on your car and wont be as effective.
if not, dont waste your money and just get lowering springs and
some aftermarket dampers when your dampers start showing wear.
these are my thoughts. people can argue, but after modding so may
different cars it's either go all the way, or just do springs and dampers
for me. in betweens are for just vanity or conversation piece.
keep us posted on your find with the above in mind.
tell you from experience on other cars that ive worked on is that you
want to get the ones that offer closest to your stock spring rates
if you want daily drivability... (somewhere ~F180lbs/in and R300lbs/in)
and get adjustable dampers.
imho, no sense getting c/o's if you can't adjust the damping.
no sense getting progressive rate springs since it won't be as
performance oriented with its variations rate while it compresses...
plus most people like to drop their cars low on c/o's. you want
linear rate so that your springs can do the work in short travel.
also, imho no sense getting c/o's if you're not planning to corner
balance your car. invest in adjustable endlinks. otherwise your
swaybar will put a preload on your car and wont be as effective.
if not, dont waste your money and just get lowering springs and
some aftermarket dampers when your dampers start showing wear.
these are my thoughts. people can argue, but after modding so may
different cars it's either go all the way, or just do springs and dampers
for me. in betweens are for just vanity or conversation piece.
keep us posted on your find with the above in mind.
Last edited by kenchan; 12-17-2007 at 09:47 PM.
#7
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Leandro / San Jose, CA
Posts: 625
imy fit DD but i want to lower it. Not much for track and stuff. Coilovers come with shocks and etc, not just the springs. The big plus for me is that you can adjust it.
#12
Why would you get shocks and springs when tein basics are under a grand? The shocks and springs in the tein basics are somewhat (let's face it tein's aren't the best quality) engineered to work together as far as springs rate vs damping rate on the shocks. Sure they aren't adjustable, but i wouldn't bother getting any other shocks for it except Koni's. If/when Koni's come out i would consider a spring/shock combo. Until then i say..if you don't care about how your car handles and just want to lower it, get springs. If you give a crap, get something better.
Just the fact that people are willing to get springs without replacing the OEM shocks speaks worlds about the different kinds of mentality people have, so make sure you're taking advice from like-minded individuals.
also..i'm having trouble finding any decent variety of suspenion for these cars. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? All i've found so far is t1r's, and some springs. Nothing in between.
Just the fact that people are willing to get springs without replacing the OEM shocks speaks worlds about the different kinds of mentality people have, so make sure you're taking advice from like-minded individuals.
also..i'm having trouble finding any decent variety of suspenion for these cars. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? All i've found so far is t1r's, and some springs. Nothing in between.
Last edited by Var; 12-20-2007 at 03:53 PM.
#13
+1
let's be honest. people buy jdm stuff because it's jdm. actually being a good part has, for most people, almost nothing to do with it.
let's be honest. people buy jdm stuff because it's jdm. actually being a good part has, for most people, almost nothing to do with it.
#14
case in point
Unless something has drastically changed since the D2's came out for the S13 240sx a few years back...(they were 500 bucks brand new with pillow ball mounts hmm)
To put D2's in the same list as Cusco and Buddy Club makes absolutely no sense to me.
/sigh
edit: FYI most (cheaper) coilovers are underdamped. So unless you know what that feels like you'd think that just cause the shocks aren't leaking oil they're doing their job and most people describe the ride as "bumpy" or bouncy"... That could mean 10 different things.
Last edited by Var; 12-20-2007 at 05:23 PM.
#15
Why would you get shocks and springs when tein basics are under a grand? The shocks and springs in the tein basics are somewhat (let's face it tein's aren't the best quality) engineered to work together as far as springs rate vs damping rate on the shocks. they aren't adjustable,
#16
i buy jdm parts because the standard of production quality in japan is much higher than most countries. too bad alot of japanese companies (tein included) outsource to have components made in china where the quality standard is much much lower. you just gotta research stuff. i bought the tein's because it was the only option at the time. not everyone is a retard and buys stuff just because its "jdm".
#17
i was wondering about buddy club. i don't remember them having sub 1000 dollar coilovers back when i had my s13. I wonder if their production quality has dropped any. If not, their street coilovers would be an easy choice over tein basics. The whole lineup is under a grand for hondas, and that includes pillow ball mounts for some models.
Buddy Club Coilovers - BuddyClub N+ Spec Dampers
i don't see the Fit listed but if AFAIK they are available
One advantage of tein - i believe they have a service hq in southern california.
edit: here are both cusco and buddy club. You can get them cheaper than listed
Tein Coilovers Car Performance Parts and Coil Overs Kits Honda Fit
also
www.springrates.com
Last edited by Var; 12-20-2007 at 08:15 PM.
#18
i buy jdm parts because the standard of production quality in japan is much higher than most countries. too bad alot of japanese companies (tein included) outsource to have components made in china where the quality standard is much much lower. you just gotta research stuff. i bought the tein's because it was the only option at the time. not everyone is a retard and buys stuff just because its "jdm".
#19
if anyone wants another opinion on the buddy club stuff
Buddy Club N+ Review - Club RSX Message Board
Buddy Club N+ Review - Club RSX Message Board
#20
btw, the only coilovers ive seen with camber plates are the D2 ones and i think its been established that those are crap.
Last edited by kelsodeez; 12-20-2007 at 08:42 PM.