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Old 02-17-2007 | 07:29 PM
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It's pretty much universal coz it's just a bolt. U can ask local alignment shop for more advises regarding to that.

Don't get 81280 though if so I don't think u will get much adjuistment with that. I drove around for more than 60km already and didn't fall apart so don't worry.
 
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Old 02-18-2007 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by phil_qc
Nice wheels and drop and very good alignment spec. (except
for cross caster but it's in specs...)

We have 3' of snow right now in Montreal so no drop
till spring but I just cannot wait ! Please, could you stop
posting pics of that baby , I'm gonna die for shure...

I'm trying to decide (spel???) between Eibach pro kit
springs or waiting for Tein to do something, like pillow
ball coilover...

By that time, a pics of my car

Philippe.

SWEET car. Those are my favorite wheels. Very nice.
 
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Old 02-18-2007 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by spoonek4
I just got them from a local parts store. The part# is "81260" and they are roughly around 60usd. Very easy to install.
that's some expensive bolt but worn out tires would be more.
 
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Old 02-18-2007 | 05:30 AM
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that's some expensive bolt but worn out tires would be more.
I got it cheaper than 60usd man. It's just how much u will have to look at. Expect less than 60usd I'd say. Just drop by one of the local parts store and ask for pricing. It can be eibach, SPC etc, and probably take u 10min each side to install that w/ basic hand tools.

I am not too worry about the tires part yet. I still haven't get a chance to try it out at autocross yet but I will do that soon to find out the setting I like. I am more concern about cornering so as long as it performs well then I'm happy. I don't install a camber kit to dial it back to 0 camber or positive side coz I would get camber wear on outter edge instead.
 
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Old 02-18-2007 | 06:32 PM
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Is your car leading to the right ? with the front cross caster
and the rear cross camber, it theoriquely should...

Philippe
 
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Old 02-18-2007 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by phil_qc
Is your car leading to the right ? with the front cross caster
and the rear cross camber, it theoriquely should...

Philippe
As far as I can notice now, no. I still need a bit more time to try it out. If it's nothing major then I will leave it as is for now. I will see if I can do anything to the caster when I try out other front camber & toe setting in May or so before the lapping event.
 
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Old 02-19-2007 | 03:58 PM
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we got the bolt for just under $50CAD i think...that's included taxes and everything...they gave me 81280 but it's a bigger bolt so i can't fit it in; went to exchange for a 81260 and it fits perfectly fine

as for camber wear, -1.5 is nothing for tire wear, it's the toe that kills your tires...i have -1.3 and -1.4 on my EK for years (-1.5 on my sister's subaru impreza and my parent's subaru legacy) and my tires are still running good without camber wear (-0.05 toe out)...

we kinda want to get used with the higher limit in cornering before we go further on the camber (and see if it's really necessary)...the car is currently still a daily driver and i dun see a point to get -2.0 yet (but we might try that on the track, maybe the 2nd time)...

car will pull to the side with more positive camber or the side with less positive caster...so his setup is actually balanced to compensate road crown
 
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Old 02-19-2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rcantu
that's some expensive bolt but worn out tires would be more.
see after the car is lowered, rear easily get excessive camber (-1.6 and -1.8) but the front would be remaining about -.5 which will cause the car to understeer king...was driving my friend's 06 WRX wagon with a 20 or 22mm rear sway bar and i was surprised the limit around a corner is even lower than my parent's legacy wagon (both were on snow tires)...as soon as we got onto the alignment rack his car came out with a -0.1 and -0.2 front camber and appro -1.2 rear...we maxed it out to -1.0 and the car handles a lot better...his car showed outer edge wear because the tire is turning with its sidewall around a harder corner...

-1.5 front camber is really mild for street driving and would still consider kinda low for auto-xing or tracking...personally wouldn't go over -1.5 for street because acceleration, deceleration, and tires wear will become an issue...
 
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Old 02-25-2007 | 11:45 PM
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i have got the skunk2 springs on mine...B4 getting and alignment should i get these bolts??? guessing i should cause i have gone to 3 events already since i am a crazed autocrosser...now what do you think i should do with all this? i am getting an alignment from someone who knows how to do an alignment on lowered cars...so any auto parts store has these bolts?
 
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Old 02-26-2007 | 03:25 AM
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Hey Paulo107 I think u can get these SPC camber bolts from most auto parts stores in the States. If not u can order them(part#81260) online.

You or your friend can slap on the bolts in easily and get alignment done after. However, pls do look at the rule book and see if the class u're running allow camber bolts or not. If it's not allowed then think if u wanna be in the higher class next year or something.

I'm semi-retired on autocross now. I still think it's a good part that I will put in no matter what class I will end up to be in.
 
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Old 02-26-2007 | 09:13 AM
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Check out what I found.

Club RSX.com: SPC Front Camber Kit (Pair)

$29 shipped
 
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Old 02-26-2007 | 11:44 AM
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Great price. Now it's up to u guys for get it or not!
 
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Old 02-26-2007 | 11:57 AM
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Yeah I got me a set already. Thanks for the info spoonek4.
 
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Old 02-26-2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulo107
i have got the skunk2 springs on mine...B4 getting and alignment should i get these bolts??? guessing i should cause i have gone to 3 events already since i am a crazed autocrosser...now what do you think i should do with all this? i am getting an alignment from someone who knows how to do an alignment on lowered cars...so any auto parts store has these bolts?
try to get even camber (whatever u get for the back, get the same amount for the front) if u would love auto-x a lot, u dun wanna ruin the outer edge of your tires with little camber, as well as having a very low cornering limit around sweeper or slalom; i will give it a little bit toe out (-0.05?!)

i would not keep the front strut bar cuz the car might still be understeering...but it's up to u...
 
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Old 02-27-2007 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 Zigen
try to get even camber (whatever u get for the back, get the same amount for the front) if u would love auto-x a lot, u dun wanna ruin the outer edge of your tires with little camber, as well as having a very low cornering limit around sweeper or slalom
Just as a guess, I'd say this would not be the ideal auto-x set up. The Fit has a fair amount of understeer built into it. That being the case, I have to think you'd want more negative camber up front than the rear. A bit of toe-out in the front wouldn't hurt, either.

Mike
 
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Old 03-05-2007 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by squareback
Just as a guess, I'd say this would not be the ideal auto-x set up. The Fit has a fair amount of understeer built into it. That being the case, I have to think you'd want more negative camber up front than the rear. A bit of toe-out in the front wouldn't hurt, either.

Mike
yes you are right...but what happened is with too much of a camber, it's going to hurt your car's acceleration and deceleration...i know auto-x is all about slalom and sweeper etc but don't forget, you can still play around with tire pressure, choice of tires etc...with too much camber your car is not going to accelerate or brake like it should...

with too agressive alignment, you are just going to end up ruining yours tires during city driving and the car won't handle just as good...i rather do a reasonable setting and try other things like tire pressure, remove front strut bars or remove rear (rarely), etc etc...

also choice of springs or coilovers are very important too...you will need stiffer rear springs than the front, that's for sure...all in all, i think it's more about driver
 
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Old 03-05-2007 | 06:29 PM
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You probably only need 1 kit unless you want to get really aggressive.
 

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Old 03-06-2007 | 04:02 PM
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the front camber SPC bolts is what i need to order...one question cause i am still learning about set-ups is the Fit adjustable in the rear or do i have to get rear bolts for it...need some 411
 
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Old 03-08-2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulo107
the front camber SPC bolts is what i need to order...one question cause i am still learning about set-ups is the Fit adjustable in the rear or do i have to get rear bolts for it...need some 411
rear is solid axle beam (or torsion beam)...i was trying to do sth to it and on Toyota Echo...but it will be a lot of work to add custom spacer behind the hub because the beam can't be shift for diff toe angle like VW's and not to mention camber angle...

daviddahlb: one kit can go up to about -2 degree already, i think it should be more than enough lolz
 
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Old 04-05-2007 | 11:58 PM
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Check your alignment

Was at the tire place getting a new tire for my Civic Si and I used the wife's Fit to haul the wheel. As I was putting the wheel in the back he was looking at the rear tires with a strange look on his face and he said that my alignment was way off. I responded, "I sure hope not, this car has less than 5k miles!". Well, he puts it on the alignment rack (for free) just to satisfy his curiosity and sure enough the toe, camber, or/and caster was out on ALL 4 wheels. Not a happy camper so I am making yet another trip to the dealer. I am about to have a fit.... For someone coming from European cars the stereotype of Japanese quality is not living up to the hype.
This will make my 3rd visit in so many weeks.
At least they have donuts and free drinks...
 



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