Weirdness?!?
#1
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Weirdness?!?
Ok so im going to come out with a random maybe NooooB question.
So i was at my cousins house and he hasnt seen my Fit in a while so he was checking it out. I ended up revving the engine and i didnt notice i was in park but for some reason it want letting me rev past 5rpm till i put it in N(nuetral). Is this normal?? Did i hurt the car?
* I MUST ADD, IM NOT A RICER BOY WHO REV'S MY ENGINE ALL THE TIME, INFACT I VERY RARELY IF EVER REV MY CARS ENGINE!*
Tyler
So i was at my cousins house and he hasnt seen my Fit in a while so he was checking it out. I ended up revving the engine and i didnt notice i was in park but for some reason it want letting me rev past 5rpm till i put it in N(nuetral). Is this normal?? Did i hurt the car?
* I MUST ADD, IM NOT A RICER BOY WHO REV'S MY ENGINE ALL THE TIME, INFACT I VERY RARELY IF EVER REV MY CARS ENGINE!*
Tyler
Last edited by TOOL; 02-29-2008 at 05:48 PM.
#3
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Right when i put it into N for P it let me rev all they way..Did i hurt the car? I wasnt like leaving it at the red limiter for a long time just when it hit rev limiter at 5krpm i noticed i was in P and then went into N.
Tyler
#5
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Tyler
#7
Automatic Gas saver mode? Maybe it knows you're not going anywhere on P and wants you to save gas. Who knows? Maybe it just becomes lazy when you set it to P and wakes up when you set it to N because you have to move through R to get to N. Maybe you should put on the E-brakes, apply the brakes and shift to N to see if it'll rev up to 6K. It might be a brake sensor. If not, maybe give it some coffee to wake up.
#10
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YES you are??? You can rev motorcycles even better then cars..
Anyway we can keep this argument going via PM if you would like. We must stay on topic though.
Tyler
#11
Honda-Tech.com: General Discussion and Debate: General Motorcycle Question
my final post in this thread. tyler, everyone else. don't rev your car in park. there is that "rev limiter" because your car knows it isn't supposed to REV without a load
my final post in this thread. tyler, everyone else. don't rev your car in park. there is that "rev limiter" because your car knows it isn't supposed to REV without a load
#12
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Honda-Tech.com: General Discussion and Debate: General Motorcycle Question
my final post in this thread. tyler, everyone else. don't rev your car in park. there is that "rev limiter" because your car knows it isn't supposed to REV without a load
my final post in this thread. tyler, everyone else. don't rev your car in park. there is that "rev limiter" because your car knows it isn't supposed to REV without a load
Thanks for the Rev limiter response though, ill make sure not to do it agin.
Tyler
#13
hmmm, just sounds like it was made to do that, for whatever reason Honda decided on. I highly doubt you broke anything.
I dont think there is a vehicle that I have not done that in
yeah its probably (cuz why would it be) not good and we can add it to the list of "not good" things that will probably never make a darn difference when used in either moderation or just rarely.
You can over do it, but when you have, you have surely earned it !
It has been my understanding that the limiters purpose is to keep from going far into redline and to keep your engine from being a really, really big and heavy paper weight. Cuz you can smack and slap a limiter "under load" all day long.
I dont think there is a vehicle that I have not done that in
yeah its probably (cuz why would it be) not good and we can add it to the list of "not good" things that will probably never make a darn difference when used in either moderation or just rarely.
You can over do it, but when you have, you have surely earned it !
It has been my understanding that the limiters purpose is to keep from going far into redline and to keep your engine from being a really, really big and heavy paper weight. Cuz you can smack and slap a limiter "under load" all day long.
#14
You should have bucked up and bought a MT in the first place Tyler. haha. Alright back to the point. That is really wierd that you cant rev all the way in P. I never was a rever in the first place so I would have never known that. I would have to go with the guess that there is a limiter as well. It makes the most sense.
On a side note. Did you ever do a new photo shoot with the new rims yet? Just curious.
On a side note. Did you ever do a new photo shoot with the new rims yet? Just curious.
#15
I have 40+ years experience as a mechanic and Mechanical Engineer. I have to side with "solbrothers" on this (comes as a surprise to me!). Needlessly revving any engine with no load will cause you grief eventually.
#16
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Plus im not so noob that i think i can rev my Fit all the time cause it sounds cool..My cousin wanted to hear it. Im sure everyone hear with exhaust has been in a similar sitiaution and gave in..
Tyler
Last edited by TOOL; 02-29-2008 at 11:20 AM.
#17
Tyler-
If you go to ANY drag strip, race track, even motorcycle racing events-- walk around before the race. If you are lucky enough to have a pit pass at any of these events-------- LISTEN HARD. NO ONE is revving anything at or even near red line. There is absolutely no advantage to the racer to just make noise, and only excessive wear and accidental breakage will be the result. When it is YOUR signature on the car payment check out of your own checking account, that your job generates the deposits to make those payments, you will have a better appreciation of the value of proper operation of machinery. Sooner or later, acting like a "big shot" to impress your friends is going to cost you some serious money. But that's okay- it happens to everybody.
If you ever get professional training in any form of machinery repair or design, you will be horrified at your own behavior and-- guess what?-- ignorance.
At the age of 16, I owned a '55 Chevy wagon with a '64 Buick Roadmaster V-8 and 3 speed trans. A schoolmate that I didn't even like asked if I could burn rubber with it, and I said "sure- watch!". Then I watched as my drive shaft went rolling down the street when the trans. output yoke and differential U-joint sheared right off when I popped the clutch. I never showed off like that again.
If you go to ANY drag strip, race track, even motorcycle racing events-- walk around before the race. If you are lucky enough to have a pit pass at any of these events-------- LISTEN HARD. NO ONE is revving anything at or even near red line. There is absolutely no advantage to the racer to just make noise, and only excessive wear and accidental breakage will be the result. When it is YOUR signature on the car payment check out of your own checking account, that your job generates the deposits to make those payments, you will have a better appreciation of the value of proper operation of machinery. Sooner or later, acting like a "big shot" to impress your friends is going to cost you some serious money. But that's okay- it happens to everybody.
If you ever get professional training in any form of machinery repair or design, you will be horrified at your own behavior and-- guess what?-- ignorance.
At the age of 16, I owned a '55 Chevy wagon with a '64 Buick Roadmaster V-8 and 3 speed trans. A schoolmate that I didn't even like asked if I could burn rubber with it, and I said "sure- watch!". Then I watched as my drive shaft went rolling down the street when the trans. output yoke and differential U-joint sheared right off when I popped the clutch. I never showed off like that again.
Last edited by manxman; 02-29-2008 at 11:50 AM. Reason: Correct typo
#18
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Tyler-
If you go to ANY drag strip, race track, even motorcycle racing events-- walk around before the race. If you are lucky enough to have a pit pass at any of these events-------- LISTEN HARD. NO ONE is revving anything at or even near red line. There is absolutely no advantage to the racer to just make noise, and only excessive wear and accidental breakage will be the result. When it is YOUR signature on the car payment check out of your own checking account, that your job generates the deposits to make those payments, you will have a better appreciation of the value of proper operation of machinery. Sooner or later, acting like a "big shot" to impress your friends is going to cost you some serious money. But that's okay- it happens to everybody.
If you ever get professional training in any form of machinery repair or design, you will be horrified at your own behavior and-- guess what?-- ignorance.
At the age of 16, I owned a '55 Chevy wagon with a '68 Buick Roadmaster V-8 and 3 speed trans. A schoolmate that I didn't even like asked if I could burn rubber with it, and I said "sure- watch!". Then I watched as my drive shaft went rolling down the street when the trans. output yoke and differential U-joint sheared right off when I popped the clutch. I never showed off like that again.
If you go to ANY drag strip, race track, even motorcycle racing events-- walk around before the race. If you are lucky enough to have a pit pass at any of these events-------- LISTEN HARD. NO ONE is revving anything at or even near red line. There is absolutely no advantage to the racer to just make noise, and only excessive wear and accidental breakage will be the result. When it is YOUR signature on the car payment check out of your own checking account, that your job generates the deposits to make those payments, you will have a better appreciation of the value of proper operation of machinery. Sooner or later, acting like a "big shot" to impress your friends is going to cost you some serious money. But that's okay- it happens to everybody.
If you ever get professional training in any form of machinery repair or design, you will be horrified at your own behavior and-- guess what?-- ignorance.
At the age of 16, I owned a '55 Chevy wagon with a '68 Buick Roadmaster V-8 and 3 speed trans. A schoolmate that I didn't even like asked if I could burn rubber with it, and I said "sure- watch!". Then I watched as my drive shaft went rolling down the street when the trans. output yoke and differential U-joint sheared right off when I popped the clutch. I never showed off like that again.
I wont do it again though...
I appreciate the info Dave.
But i highly diagree with the motorcycle no rev thing. Ive been riding for years, everytime i go out there all i hear is bikes revving..Every SINGLE person out there revs to warm their bike up. And revs just to rev. Im mean if you dont rev a 2stroke it will die so they require constent revving at idle.
Tyler
Last edited by TOOL; 02-29-2008 at 11:51 AM.
#19
He kept telling me rev so i wanted to shut him up..
I wont do it again though...
I appreciate the info Dave.
But i highly diagree with the motorcycle no rev thing. Ive been riding for years, everytime i go out there all i hear is bikes revving..Every SINGLE person out there revs to warm their bike up. And revs just to rev. Im mean if you dont rev a 2stroke it will die so they require constent revving at idle.
Tyler
I wont do it again though...
I appreciate the info Dave.
But i highly diagree with the motorcycle no rev thing. Ive been riding for years, everytime i go out there all i hear is bikes revving..Every SINGLE person out there revs to warm their bike up. And revs just to rev. Im mean if you dont rev a 2stroke it will die so they require constent revving at idle.
Tyler
#20
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And I disagree with your blanket statement. Get some training from a motorcycle engine mechanics class at a trade school, or, more simply, ask a motorcycle mechanic. Honest mechanics will explain how to get the best and longest performance, and dishonest ones will tell you what you want to hear so that you will spend a lot of money with them to fix your engine problems. There are limits to what is beneficial to the engine- anything more than that is harmful.
But you dont have to agree with me, and maybe your right. But if your right about a billion people are wrong every weekend at dirt bike places all over the country.
Tyler