nothing yet

 

Any weight distribution is correctable by tuning the suspension for overall balance? The weight is there and not going to disappear just because the suspension is tune. The nose of the car still has to carry that weight around no?

 

in the last issue of Super Street, and from many people that attended the local shows, the engine itself is installed, BUT it doesn't run

I am not sure where you got the idea that it runs.. they had to push it in and out of the shows from what i hear and even Super Street say they are still working on it

-joe

 

Just as most race cars do. The track record holder at our local track uses a civic with a weight distribution of 65/35. Do you watch bestmotoringvideos? There's this one vol where a civic eg with a k20 swap beats cars with more than 300+ hp. That should give you some idea.. The k20 is not a v8 so people should stop thinking that it's extremely heavy. Basically its just like putting a b18c in a ek or eg civic.

 

i wonder if this swap will be popular cause it wont be cheap

 

1/4 mile run or autocross/roadcourse? If it's 1/4 mile then i agree but on a track where the car constantly have to change direction is what i'm questioning.

 

A car with better weight distribution will handle better, all else being equal. The reason that car youre talking about could beat the other cars is that it's power to weight ratio was so much better. At least 200hp in a car that I really doubt weighed more than 2100lbs is a nutty ratio.

And the 450hp LS6 (fully dressed, including transmission) weighs less than 90lbs more than a K20. Torque must not weigh much

 

pwnt.

edit:

 

roadcourse. It is a stripped out ek9 with a b16b.

 

Yes but it also handled extremely well, did'nt it? Excellent power to weight ratio and fine suspension tuning will make this car an excellent track car. Its only setback is the torsion beam rear suspension but spoon has proven that it still handles well.

 

so the car is not running yet...its going to be interesting to see the results

 

Anyplace I can get some info on the Spoon/Mugen K20 attempts?

 

AFAIk spoon never attempted to swap a k20 for their fit. Mugen as we all know messed it up. Best bet is to wait for some guy to do it properly.

 

I was wondering if there were any sources as far as article databases or magazine write ups. So it's not just random forum members spouting off hear-sa.

 

everyone that wants a b-series swap instead because of price or whatever needs to understand that the fit is drive-by-wire, and it will be even harder to swap a b-series because of it.

like that one guy said, our best bet (for now) is probably a new r series motor.

or nitrous. like 200-shot. >_<

 

if you think that they messed it up, you are so off course

Mugen is honda's factory backed performance company, with access to all the honda engineering data, etc.. they did the swap properly but their comment was that it was front heavy and was virtually undrivable

people are going off tangent saying the b-series vs. the k-series is about the same weight, etc.. yes, when swap in place of a d-series or f-series engine, the weight difference isn't all that great

but when you are putting in a B/K into a chassis designed for the VERY LIGHTWEIGHT L series, you are adding tons of weight!!

so let's start "debating" this in terms of B/K -> L series chassis ok?

-joe

 

But where is it officially written by Mugen that the Fit is "virtually undrivable" with a K20?...they have a snazzy little video of one driving about but it's hard to tell how fast it's going.

 

I believe it can't go faster than 20mph due to engine vibrations or unfinalized (read: test) motor mounts. I'll try to look for the links that discussed this.

 

In one of the Hong Kong newspapers, they had a review of the red fit with the K20 swap. They had to flatbed it from location to location and only used it for short bursts for photo purposes, otherwise it was not street / drivable at all

-joe

 

I'd be interested eventually. I'm thinking that the civic si/RSX k20 would be more than adequate for this car. The expense would be far more reasonable and the results would be great for a dd car.