RCTS quoted me almost 4g's for the Vpro installed with harness and tuning.

Speedtech can tune your Emanage, there's a shop here and in Edmonton. I bet its no more than 80/hr. You'd have to pay for dyno time if you want it dyno tuned tho, but they can street tune it for you.

 

Speedtech in Edmonton and Speedtech in Calgary are very different, the only things they have in common are their name and the fact that all parts orders go through calgary. Last time i was there they had two tech's one's a first year apprentice and the other might be a second year by now, they didn't even install my T1R intake properly. When they first opened one of their techs wasn't even an apprentice, and he destroyed his own EK20 by putting ITB's (without any air filters) on a completely stock engine and drove it as a daily driver in edmonton.

Also Speedtech Edmonton doesn't have a dyno, in fact as far as I know there's only one dyno in edmonton, but i can't remember where it is. They're ok for ordering parts, but that's it.

 

Lets just say that I don't trust any of the shops that I've dealt with in Edmonton to touch my car.

That 4g's price for the Vpro, was that with a custom harness or a plug and play harness, cuz i'm pretty sure the plug and play harness that comes with the HKS kit will hook up to the Vpro, I mean obviously you may want to modify it a bit inorder to get more out of the unit, but it'd be ok for the time being if it's cheaper.

 

The way I look at it, T1R has the better turbo.

My questions are:

Which is better AEM F/IC or F CON IS? Thanks to explosivepotato's hard work and generosity of sharing his experiences; the T1R kit with the AEM F/IC is killer! I also didn't know about the windshield washer bottle issue.

How does the HKS F CON IS work? It may utilize o2 skewing like the AEM F/IC but I'm not sure it is not an open unit. Which is good and bad depending on how you look at it. Tuning is very critical! HKS lets others tune, they just need to be certified to do so.

T1R should drop the price and sell the kit w/out the Emanage. That would rock!

I wish HKS would release a second kit (off road use label) that utilizes their new F Con V pro 3.3!

 

Well I do know this, if you buy my kit you'll save a ton of money and have money to get the AEM FI/C and sell the Emanage Ultimate for a few hundred to cover the cost of it.

 

Trust me, your turbo kit is the bad temptation in my head right now.

I currently have some priorities to take care of.

I miss boost. I'm kicking myself in the ass for selling my 240.
I was convinced gas would stay high, parts will stay over priced, and yards will be forever poached by the bastard "swap shops".

 

Yeefit you're selling your kit?!

 

For the HKS kit, if you dont have to tap the oil pan, how does it get the oil? A oil filter adapter?

 

both kits tap the oil pressure switch

 

i think u mean for the drain, well the drain uses a banjo bolt into the stock oil drain then that return line is pressurized with crank case pressure to essentially pull the oil out of the turbo, it works pretty good. but i took the extra 20 min and 30 bux to have a bung welded,

 

So gd3 did you just leave the supply how it was? Also what size bung would be used for the HKS kit?

 

most common fitting for an oil return would be 1/2" npt to 5/8" barb fitting.

 

for the drain i used a -8an fitting
and for the supply i used a -4an braided steel pressure fitted line from the oil pressure switch on th block to the turbo with the stock restriction hole in the garret turbo

 

obviously it was not good enough 4 u!!
why do u tell people it's good for them if it wasn't good for you?
hmmmmmm

 

i love people like u, lol

the HKS oil drain system works GREAT, it a much better alternative to the t1r way, because u are not tearing apart your car and drilling and welding. some people want to maintain a car that can be turned back into a factory set up. me on the other hand i already had the motor apart and figured why not. so mr TheImmortal not to be rude but shut up!!!!

 

this kit has not failed on me yet
I drive the car pretty hard most of the time (not even turbo time anymore) and it has not given any problems.
doesn't burn coolant or oil however i did notice that oil burns faster than NA
good thing is it doesn't produce alot of heat

bad bart... f-con, can't be tuned without PowerWriter + hardware

 

thats cuz its a good kit

 

how rude!!

so basically u r saying that the t1r setup is superior to the hks setup because the system u r using is closer to the t1r design

hks = GREAT
t1r = BETTER = WHAT U HAVE (drilling and welding)