I asked Claymore about it, and he had said it was someone in Thailand. I'd think this might be significantly cheaper (for the motor) than a K20 swap. Find a civic owner that was going the K20 route. . .

 

but there is nothing about the swap. kinda like the B series motor in the fit.

yes the motor would be cheaper but what about the custom parts?

 

it can't be that bad. at least not so bad that you are suddenly looking at the price of a k motor.


again, we can't take aftermarket support into this conversation, simply because if i were to do it (especially since i'm a/t) it would be just for extra power, and reliable power at that. the r18, in essence, would be THE only underhood mod i would do.

i think a better question is how this swap would compare pricewise to, say, a kraftwerks or tr1 kit. (and if the extra reliablity would be worth it.)

are custom motor mounts hard to come by? could you use the mounts for the k series from innovative or hasport? and how much would a wiring harness run?

 

or just look online. i found an r18 head, with less than 20k on it, for like 200bucks, on ebay.

or salvage yards. nothing wrong with the motors and such, but the cars are in shambles.

i have a buddy who has an rsx and when his base k20 blew, he sourced a k24 (accord spec) from a salvage yard for less than 900 bucks. he had it installed, k pro'd and it runs like a dream, with gobs of torque!

 

ok motor mounts would be aftermarket support and so would a wire harness. plus would the header even fit? or the intake?

i dont know why everyone thinks a K swap is like super expensive when you can piece it together for pretty cheap. the R18 swap would still (I THINK) cost just as much if not more than the supercharger/turbo kit.

 

thats the thing there is almost nothing about it online.
ok so 900 for a full long block and 200 for a head that you still need a bottom end and tranny to bolt up to the R18. I had a friend do the samething but with a k20a3 built head and k24 bottom end with a 125 shot running 14's.

H motors even sells the full long block for that price too.
Like i said i have seen k20a3 complete swaps go for $1000 with everything. That would be the swap for you for reliablity and you dont have to use premium like the K20a2. the motor is rated at 160hp and there is enough aftermarket for that motor you could squeeze more out of it with out hurting your MPG. I know everyone hates this motor but think about it, 160hp in out fit is more than worth it and the K20a3 is cheaper.

 

oh man! trust me, i am so NOT on the k20a3 hatemobile! i think the engine is great for what it is!

i guess with a k20 i'm more preoccupied with fitment and having to cut the frame. (you do have to right?) the mpg's would be significantly lower as its rated at 22/29 on a a car (ep3,rsx base) that weighs about as much as what a newer civic weighs. it would probably break 30's on the highway though and the torque would be nice.

i guess aside from that, i'd be worried about throwing off the handling balance.

 

your not racing the car so i really dont think it would be an issue. Coilover with stiff spring rate and damping will help out aswell.

they did a test awhile back with 2 eg hatchbacks one with a b18c5 and one with a k20a2 on the track. It was pretty much an even battle because the b18 was quick going into the turns and slower coming out while the k20a2 hatch was slower going into the turns and faster coming out.

Most people i have seen that do a kswap usually run a higher spring rate in the front because weight is also an issue.....think about it its the same with any other civic/integra and they are fine.

 

yeah, thats a good point.

though i thought that the k series was actually lighter than b series motors?

anywho, where would be a good place to look for an a3? and an AUTO tranny equipped one no less? most engine swap sites i visit only have type s and type r motors.

and do you think that custom motor mounts will be an issue? what of the transmission fitting? i know they are both five speeds, but the way they are mounted in the car and the size of them could be an issue don't you think?

 

search here
Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market


all by "getinafit"
hasport mounts and axles.

bend the brake lines out of the way


Cut the Radiator supprt in order for the intake manifold to clear

Modify passenger engine mount:





Modify Drivers side frame rail to clear transmission case.



And cut the drivers side mount a bit to clear as well.

 

interesting, but i'd swap in the newer l15, which would proably go in with little issues, before doing this.

and i'd boost before doing that anyway.

 

I'd really like to see a B swap in a Fit

 

it has already been done.

 

i dont know it just doesnt make sence to me to pay 4k to not even hit 200hp

 

Lol I'm sorry I meant in person

Pics?

 

you probably wont because it is illegal. you would have to find like the first model fit.

 

it depends on how you look at it. MOST newer cars don't weigh what the fit weighs, and even if you are only making 150hp to the wheels, you'd have a peppy ass car.

but given the other cars you have owned, i understand what you are trying to do, and why you are struggling to find middle ground. (because i guess that you know as well as i that the fit is not 'there' yet as far as mods go when you compare it to cars like the ek you wanted.)


i don't think that a newer l15 swap would run that much though especially from a junkyard.

anywho, i've decided it'll proably be boost for me, as all this swapping stuff is tedious.