How much torque to tighten?
#1
How much torque to tighten?
Getting the Wagolis axleback soon, will be installing it myself, any specific tightness or torque #'s to tighten up the flange bolts? most shops use air guns, but I don't have that luxury at home.. is it possible to over-torque it and break the gasket?
#2
...hand tight is good enough... You can put
a bit of anti seize for the future... Again,
don't tight it to much...
You cannot break the gasket (you will know
when you will instal it)...
Philippe
a bit of anti seize for the future... Again,
don't tight it to much...
You cannot break the gasket (you will know
when you will instal it)...
Philippe
Last edited by phil_qc; 08-04-2007 at 05:50 PM.
#3
I see you have or are getting the Wagolis. I was curious where you purchased them from? I know Pole Position products carried them but it seems like there site or down or they are out of business and I dont know of anyone in the states that has the Fit application of either the Wagolis or Power Getter. Im a huge fan of Fujitsubo and so far I have not found a exhaust that I like more then these two. I appreciate it, thanks.
#4
if the gasket can't be broken then what's the harm of going "all out" and tightening as tight as possible? did you put anti-seize on just the threads of the bolts or also on the gasket?
#5
I see you have or are getting the Wagolis. I was curious where you purchased them from? I know Pole Position products carried them but it seems like there site or down or they are out of business and I dont know of anyone in the states that has the Fit application of either the Wagolis or Power Getter. Im a huge fan of Fujitsubo and so far I have not found a exhaust that I like more then these two. I appreciate it, thanks.
#6
Thanks for that info. $479 though for just an axle back even one as nice as the Wagolis is pretty high. Not to mention another at least $50-60 bucks for shipping to California where I am at. By the way if anyone wants a video clip review of the Wagolis, it is available on Fujitsubo's official site.
#7
Thanks for that info. $479 though for just an axle back even one as nice as the Wagolis is pretty high. Not to mention another at least $50-60 bucks for shipping to California where I am at. By the way if anyone wants a video clip review of the Wagolis, it is available on Fujitsubo's official site.
#8
so there is no set amount of torque then eh? cuz I do have torque wrenches... and if it's not as finicky as tightening up oil drain plug bolts then I should be good to go.. those are easy to over torque.. maybe I don't realize my own strength
if the gasket can't be broken then what's the harm of going "all out" and tightening as tight as possible? did you put anti-seize on just the threads of the bolts or also on the gasket?
if the gasket can't be broken then what's the harm of going "all out" and tightening as tight as possible? did you put anti-seize on just the threads of the bolts or also on the gasket?
I don't know the correct torque but when I undid mine,
the torque wrenche clicked at 40lbs/'... As for anti seize,
only on the treads...
A good idea is to have a spair gasket...
If your car is almost new, no need for a new one but after a
year, this gasket is "welded" to the pipe by the heat and
corrosion and need to be destroyed to be removed...
I advice you agains to much torque only for easy removal
in the future... It's easier to remove that's all
Philippe
#9
I don't know the correct torque but when I undid mine,
the torque wrenche clicked at 40lbs/'... As for anti seize,
only on the treads...
A good idea is to have a spair gasket...
If your car is almost new, no need for a new one but after a
year, this gasket is "welded" to the pipe by the heat and
corrosion and need to be destroyed to be removed...
I advice you agains to much torque only for easy removal
in the future... It's easier to remove that's all
Philippe
the torque wrenche clicked at 40lbs/'... As for anti seize,
only on the treads...
A good idea is to have a spair gasket...
If your car is almost new, no need for a new one but after a
year, this gasket is "welded" to the pipe by the heat and
corrosion and need to be destroyed to be removed...
I advice you agains to much torque only for easy removal
in the future... It's easier to remove that's all
Philippe
I'll keep in mind not to torque too tight.. just don't want any leaks or anything like that
#10
well my car will be literally a couple of days old as soon as I receive the exhaust... you have to use the gasket that is provided with the Wagolis though right? since the diameter of the piping is larger than stock?
I'll keep in mind not to torque too tight.. just don't want any leaks or anything like that
I'll keep in mind not to torque too tight.. just don't want any leaks or anything like that
Hey man, it's an easy instal... very straight foward. You only have 2
bolts to unscrew and that's all... Oh yeah, the 2 hangners to
Philippe
#11
lol, I know it's easy, main question was the how tight to torque, that's all.. and you've answered that, and I appreciate it.. I'll post pics up as soon as it's done! oh, one more thing.. has your exhaust gotten louder since you got it? or has it been pretty much the same noise levels throughout?
#12
Anyone seen this?
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If anyone can get this exhaust, I would want one in a heartbeat. It is a bit like the older Mugen's with the additional recirculating canister on the muffler but personally I think this looks amazing and suits the Fit just perfectly.
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If anyone can get this exhaust, I would want one in a heartbeat. It is a bit like the older Mugen's with the additional recirculating canister on the muffler but personally I think this looks amazing and suits the Fit just perfectly.
#14
Anyone seen this?
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If anyone can get this exhaust, I would want one in a heartbeat. It is a bit like the older Mugen's with the additional recirculating canister on the muffler but personally I think this looks amazing and suits the Fit just perfectly.
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If anyone can get this exhaust, I would want one in a heartbeat. It is a bit like the older Mugen's with the additional recirculating canister on the muffler but personally I think this looks amazing and suits the Fit just perfectly.
#15
But ya aside from the Fujitsubo's, I really love this HKS. Its a shame they dont have any more info about this particular application apart from the link's I included. It is very quiet though, similar to the Wagolis. Only 3db's louder then stock even though its not clear what situation they used to measure that db level. And its obvious the craftsmanship on this particular model is top notch as you would expect from HKS.
Its sad though that the Japanese list prices usually dont mean much to us here in NA cause the few shops here that can obtain Japan only parts never sell them for those prices. If say one was to sell this particular application in NA, it would be no less then $500 or more.
#16
Just found this myself and I thought id share for anyone who is interested. It looks like HKS makes a b-pipe for the Fit in Japan and im sure it will bolt up to a NA Fit without any issues.
Here is a pic of it: http://www.hks-power.co.jp/products/...fit_img_01.gif
I cant recall at the moment what the stock b-pipe is for the Fit but this particular one is 45mm roughly just under 2" (50.8mm). The main benefit with this would be if it is indeed a few millimetre's larger then stock would be slightly more airflow and this is constructed from full 304 stainless as opposed to mild steel that the stock b-pipe is made from.
Japanese list price is 33,600yen or roughly $285USD with today's yen-dollar exchange rate. One thing I dont know though is if the way this is made is specifically to mount to HKS axle back's for the Fit or if other brand axle-back's will work with it as well.
Here is a pic of it: http://www.hks-power.co.jp/products/...fit_img_01.gif
I cant recall at the moment what the stock b-pipe is for the Fit but this particular one is 45mm roughly just under 2" (50.8mm). The main benefit with this would be if it is indeed a few millimetre's larger then stock would be slightly more airflow and this is constructed from full 304 stainless as opposed to mild steel that the stock b-pipe is made from.
Japanese list price is 33,600yen or roughly $285USD with today's yen-dollar exchange rate. One thing I dont know though is if the way this is made is specifically to mount to HKS axle back's for the Fit or if other brand axle-back's will work with it as well.
#17
I had a Wagolis on my car - Great looking and nice sounding exhaust! You'll like it.
But I wanted a full catback so I got a Power Getter - A little more aggressive sounding but not obnoxious at all. My chamber style intake makes more noise at full throttle acceleration than the exhaust does!
Also, it appears the Power Getter B-Pipe will only attach to a Power Getter Axle Back so there is no possibility of mix-and-matching exhaust pieces...
Either way Fujitsubo makes a GREAT exhaust.
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I'm actually ordering a J's Racing (titanium, big $$$ ) cat back from AJ-Racing....so my PowerGetter will be on the used/for sale market shortly. There is some scraping on the bottom of the resonator on the B-Pipe from sliding on an occasional speedbump but otherwise mechanically perfect and does not affect the performance of the catback at all. You'll never notice it unless you stand underneath the car when it's on a lift.
But I wanted a full catback so I got a Power Getter - A little more aggressive sounding but not obnoxious at all. My chamber style intake makes more noise at full throttle acceleration than the exhaust does!
Also, it appears the Power Getter B-Pipe will only attach to a Power Getter Axle Back so there is no possibility of mix-and-matching exhaust pieces...
Either way Fujitsubo makes a GREAT exhaust.
Thread Hi-jack Alert!
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I'm actually ordering a J's Racing (titanium, big $$$ ) cat back from AJ-Racing....so my PowerGetter will be on the used/for sale market shortly. There is some scraping on the bottom of the resonator on the B-Pipe from sliding on an occasional speedbump but otherwise mechanically perfect and does not affect the performance of the catback at all. You'll never notice it unless you stand underneath the car when it's on a lift.
Last edited by Wave; 08-05-2007 at 08:42 AM.
#18
I had a Wagolis on my car - Great looking and nice sounding exhaust! You'll like it.
But I wanted a full catback so I got a Power Getter - A little more aggressive sounding but not obnoxious at all. My chamber style intake makes more noise at full throttle acceleration than the exhaust does!
Also, it appears the Power Getter B-Pipe will only attach to a Power Getter Axle Back so there is no possibility of mix-and-matching exhaust pieces...
Either way Fujitsubo makes a GREAT exhaust.
Thread Hi-jack Alert!
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I'm actually ordering a J's Racing (titanium, big $$$ ) cat back from AJ-Racing....so my PowerGetter will be on the used/for sale market shortly. There is some scraping on the bottom of the resonator on the B-Pipe from sliding on an occasional speedbump but otherwise mechanically perfect and does not affect the performance of the catback at all. You'll never notice it unless you stand underneath the car when it's on a lift.
But I wanted a full catback so I got a Power Getter - A little more aggressive sounding but not obnoxious at all. My chamber style intake makes more noise at full throttle acceleration than the exhaust does!
Also, it appears the Power Getter B-Pipe will only attach to a Power Getter Axle Back so there is no possibility of mix-and-matching exhaust pieces...
Either way Fujitsubo makes a GREAT exhaust.
Thread Hi-jack Alert!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm actually ordering a J's Racing (titanium, big $$$ ) cat back from AJ-Racing....so my PowerGetter will be on the used/for sale market shortly. There is some scraping on the bottom of the resonator on the B-Pipe from sliding on an occasional speedbump but otherwise mechanically perfect and does not affect the performance of the catback at all. You'll never notice it unless you stand underneath the car when it's on a lift.
#19
Yeah, the spoon and megan B-pipes should fit the Wagolis. Just be careful of the B-pipe resonator scraping speed bumps if your car is lowered, ask me how I know .
#20
how high does the wagolis sit compared to the stock exhaust? I shouldn't have to worry about the stock b-pipe though right? I'll be on stock height until my Mugen Sports Suspension arrives... but even when they're on, it'll be about 1" drop max