Test Pipe Install... Big Mistake...
#1
Test Pipe Install... Big Mistake...
Recently bought a test pipe from a ff member. Finally got a free weekend to install it so I headed to the rent-a-bay to throw the car on the lift. Everything went great with the removal of the cat and putting the left-side spring bolt back on. When I went to put the next spring bolt on it stripped and bent... I've ordered 4 new spring bolts from honda to have back up for when I go to try again with it. The car now makes an AWFUL rattling sound between 2000-2500 rpm's. I'm just hoping that I haven't stripped the threads on the exhaust manifold side. Either way, when I get back under the car again I'm putting the stock cat back on. I absolutely HATE how loud the car is now... Installing a test pipe was a big mistake and I will never put another one on any other car I own. What do you guys think? Is it possible that I've stripped the threads on the exhaust manifold side? or is the material the manifold is made out of much stronger than the spring bolt?
#2
You have to install both of the spring bolts just enough to stay in place and then alternate snugging each one a turn or 2 at a time and walk them into place until they both are snug.. If you boogered up the header you may be able to chase the threads out with a thread cutter or clean up tap..... It is crazy how much louder these little beast or with the cat removed isn't it?
#3
You have to install both of the spring bolts just enough to stay in place and then alternate snugging each one a turn or 2 at a time and walk them into place until they both are snug.. If you boogered up the header you may be able to chase the threads out with a thread cutter or clean up tap..... It is crazy how much louder these little beast or with the cat removed isn't it?
#4
You have to install both of the spring bolts just enough to stay in place and then alternate snugging each one a turn or 2 at a time and walk them into place until they both are snug.. If you boogered up the header you may be able to chase the threads out with a thread cutter or clean up tap..... It is crazy how much louder these little beast or with the cat removed isn't it?
#6
I am pretty sure I used anti seize compound on the spring bolts on mine because I had installed an after market header followed by the cat delete pipe.... I had to put an Apexi exhaust control valve and a Vibrant resonator in front of the muffler on my car after doing all of the other exhaust mods... Driving between 60 and 80 was torturous even without my hearing aids and I was having full blown anxiety attacks anytime I saw a cop car... You can wear foam ear plugs to cancel the low frequency drone and still hear your music..... I don't even want to think about all of the stuff I have messed up while turning a wrench. I do remember that I had a hard time getting the header and cat delete pipe in place and had to loosen and realign the B pipe I installed because it would bang on the underside of my car on the smallest of bumps.
#7
Mine is non-resonated center pipe, front pipe with 2nd cat delete and the canister out back, not at all embarrassing to hear mine. I actually wish it had a bit more bite to its sound output.
Might actually be putting my canister up for sale in the next couple months and replacing with a new piece of Ti from J's as well. Just like the pie-cut turndown more and the rounded edges of the canister.
Might actually be putting my canister up for sale in the next couple months and replacing with a new piece of Ti from J's as well. Just like the pie-cut turndown more and the rounded edges of the canister.
#10
Mine is non-resonated center pipe, front pipe with 2nd cat delete and the canister out back, not at all embarrassing to hear mine. I actually wish it had a bit more bite to its sound output.
Might actually be putting my canister up for sale in the next couple months and replacing with a new piece of Ti from J's as well. Just like the pie-cut turndown more and the rounded edges of the canister.
Might actually be putting my canister up for sale in the next couple months and replacing with a new piece of Ti from J's as well. Just like the pie-cut turndown more and the rounded edges of the canister.
#11
If you did strip the manifold, you can buy spring bolt repair kits from the auto parts store.
It comes with a bolt with smaller threads, and then a nut mounted on a tab of sheet metal, so it will lock against the pipe.
An yes, I've done that before.
Heres an example. Dorman 675-205 Flange Kit M10MM-1.5 x
It comes with a bolt with smaller threads, and then a nut mounted on a tab of sheet metal, so it will lock against the pipe.
An yes, I've done that before.
Heres an example. Dorman 675-205 Flange Kit M10MM-1.5 x
#12
If you did strip the manifold, you can buy spring bolt repair kits from the auto parts store.
It comes with a bolt with smaller threads, and then a nut mounted on a tab of sheet metal, so it will lock against the pipe.
An yes, I've done that before.
Heres an example. Dorman 675-205 Flange Kit M10MM-1.5 x
It comes with a bolt with smaller threads, and then a nut mounted on a tab of sheet metal, so it will lock against the pipe.
An yes, I've done that before.
Heres an example. Dorman 675-205 Flange Kit M10MM-1.5 x
#14
if i remember right im the one that sold u the test pipe... im sorry to here u dont like it. i could have swore that i told u that it is a little deaper tone but i could be mistaken. i really didnt care or notice really a tone difference do to my engine mounts. i have 85a innovatie mounts and alls i hear is rattling in the car.
as far as the manifold... did the bolt break inside the manifold and is it still there? if so see if there is a way u can unscrew it if u cant then try like an easy out or something like that and clean up the threads with a tap. if that doesnt work then u might have to drill it out and helicoil it.
like texas coyote said u need to screw the sping bolts in a couple turns each so it tightens evenly. outer wise it will do it again.
also ur not the only one that breaks bolts. i see it on a daily basis. especially exhasut bolts do to the extreme heat. so dont feel bad or embarassed about that.
as far as the manifold... did the bolt break inside the manifold and is it still there? if so see if there is a way u can unscrew it if u cant then try like an easy out or something like that and clean up the threads with a tap. if that doesnt work then u might have to drill it out and helicoil it.
like texas coyote said u need to screw the sping bolts in a couple turns each so it tightens evenly. outer wise it will do it again.
also ur not the only one that breaks bolts. i see it on a daily basis. especially exhasut bolts do to the extreme heat. so dont feel bad or embarassed about that.
#15
It goes on the manifold side, and the new spring bolt screws into it. The sheet metal keeps the nut from spining by wedging against the pipe.
#16
if i remember right im the one that sold u the test pipe... im sorry to here u dont like it. i could have swore that i told u that it is a little deaper tone but i could be mistaken. i really didnt care or notice really a tone difference do to my engine mounts. i have 85a innovatie mounts and alls i hear is rattling in the car.
as far as the manifold... did the bolt break inside the manifold and is it still there? if so see if there is a way u can unscrew it if u cant then try like an easy out or something like that and clean up the threads with a tap. if that doesnt work then u might have to drill it out and helicoil it.
like texas coyote said u need to screw the sping bolts in a couple turns each so it tightens evenly. outer wise it will do it again.
also ur not the only one that breaks bolts. i see it on a daily basis. especially exhasut bolts do to the extreme heat. so dont feel bad or embarassed about that.
as far as the manifold... did the bolt break inside the manifold and is it still there? if so see if there is a way u can unscrew it if u cant then try like an easy out or something like that and clean up the threads with a tap. if that doesnt work then u might have to drill it out and helicoil it.
like texas coyote said u need to screw the sping bolts in a couple turns each so it tightens evenly. outer wise it will do it again.
also ur not the only one that breaks bolts. i see it on a daily basis. especially exhasut bolts do to the extreme heat. so dont feel bad or embarassed about that.
Also can anyone supply me with the exact type of bolts & nuts that I need for the B-pipe side of the test pipe? or part numbers from any hardware store would be awesome. The bolts that I got are a little too small and they were the biggest ones that were about an inch long at Lowe's.
Thanks,
Last edited by Demon Fit; 06-20-2011 at 11:16 PM. Reason: grammar
#17
as far as tools i used. i have a 24" 3/8 extension with a swivel socket. i went in over the sway bar.
and as far as the bolts try any hardware store. take whatever u have with u and ask for some help with finding a longer bolt. im suprised ur b pipe didnt come with any hardware. how was it attached to ur cat?
and as far as the bolts try any hardware store. take whatever u have with u and ask for some help with finding a longer bolt. im suprised ur b pipe didnt come with any hardware. how was it attached to ur cat?
#19
Get a proper sized bolt of the same thread and diameter that is just long enough to go completely through the hole with the damaged threads.. Grease it up and install it from the opposite side if you can get a straight shot at it and the header pipes don't get in your way and the bolt will open the the messed up threads so you can install the new bolt from the correct side after removing it... If you have some small diamond files it is possible to use them to unbugger the threads on the spring bolt that was messed up.