DIY CEL/MIL code check
#1
DIY CEL/MIL code check
First, if you have a check engine light on, you can get the code(s) checked/scanned at your local Autozone. The service is free.
Second, if you dont want to run the car, you can check the code yourself.
Materials:
-Paper clip or jumper wire.
-Honda service manual (for more specific info about code)
Basically, with car off and keys out. stick wire/paper clip into pins 4 and 9.
Turn key to II ON position. (dont start)
The MIL should start to flash out error codes. To interpret the MIL flashes, count the number of long flashes and multiply by 10, then add the number of short flashes. The resulting DTC code can be referenced in the Honda service manual.
Reference the codes to this list.
-----CEL # List-----
1 O2A - Oxygen sensor #1
2 O2B - Oxygen sensor #2
3 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
4 CKP - crank position sensor
5 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
6 ECT - water temperature sensor
7 TPS - throttle position sensor
8 TDC - top dead centre sensor
9 CYP - cylinder sensor
10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
12 EGR - exhaust gas recirculation lift valve
13 BARO - atmospheric pressure sensor
14 IAC (EACV) - idle air control valve
15 Ignition output signal
16 Fuel injectors
17 VSS - speed sensor
19 Automatic transmission lockup control valve
20 Electrical load detector
21 VTEC spool solenoid valve
22 VTEC pressure valve
23 Knock sensor
30 Automatic transmission A signal
31 Automatic transmission B signal
36 traction control found on JDM ecu's
41 Primary oxygen sensor heater
43 Fuel supply system
45 Fuel system too rich or lean
48 LAF - lean air fuel sensor
54 CKF - crank fluctuation sensor
58 TDC sensor #2
61 Primary oxygen sensor
63 Secondary oxygen sensor circuit
65 Secondary oxygen sensor heater wire (black wires)
67 Cat Converter
71 random misfire cylinder 1
72 random misfire cylinder 2
73 random misfire cylinder 3
74 random misfire cylinder 4
80 EGR Valve/Line
86 ECT sensor - Cooling System
91 Fuel Tank pressure sensor
92 EVAP Solenoid/Valve/Vacuum Lines
Info can be found on various places on the internet, but thought it'd be nice to have one on FitFreak.
Second, if you dont want to run the car, you can check the code yourself.
Materials:
-Paper clip or jumper wire.
-Honda service manual (for more specific info about code)
Basically, with car off and keys out. stick wire/paper clip into pins 4 and 9.
Turn key to II ON position. (dont start)
The MIL should start to flash out error codes. To interpret the MIL flashes, count the number of long flashes and multiply by 10, then add the number of short flashes. The resulting DTC code can be referenced in the Honda service manual.
Reference the codes to this list.
-----CEL # List-----
1 O2A - Oxygen sensor #1
2 O2B - Oxygen sensor #2
3 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
4 CKP - crank position sensor
5 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
6 ECT - water temperature sensor
7 TPS - throttle position sensor
8 TDC - top dead centre sensor
9 CYP - cylinder sensor
10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
12 EGR - exhaust gas recirculation lift valve
13 BARO - atmospheric pressure sensor
14 IAC (EACV) - idle air control valve
15 Ignition output signal
16 Fuel injectors
17 VSS - speed sensor
19 Automatic transmission lockup control valve
20 Electrical load detector
21 VTEC spool solenoid valve
22 VTEC pressure valve
23 Knock sensor
30 Automatic transmission A signal
31 Automatic transmission B signal
36 traction control found on JDM ecu's
41 Primary oxygen sensor heater
43 Fuel supply system
45 Fuel system too rich or lean
48 LAF - lean air fuel sensor
54 CKF - crank fluctuation sensor
58 TDC sensor #2
61 Primary oxygen sensor
63 Secondary oxygen sensor circuit
65 Secondary oxygen sensor heater wire (black wires)
67 Cat Converter
71 random misfire cylinder 1
72 random misfire cylinder 2
73 random misfire cylinder 3
74 random misfire cylinder 4
80 EGR Valve/Line
86 ECT sensor - Cooling System
91 Fuel Tank pressure sensor
92 EVAP Solenoid/Valve/Vacuum Lines
Info can be found on various places on the internet, but thought it'd be nice to have one on FitFreak.
#7
"Basically, with car off and keys out. stick wire/paper clip into pins 4 and 9."
Where is this connector?
I have the Honda Service Manual (print version). There is no mention of any procedure like this (which I am amazed...this is the first car that I've owned that hasn't had a way of getting the codes without a scan tool).
Thanks for posting this. That's cool.
Where is this connector?
I have the Honda Service Manual (print version). There is no mention of any procedure like this (which I am amazed...this is the first car that I've owned that hasn't had a way of getting the codes without a scan tool).
Thanks for posting this. That's cool.
#8
The procedure is listed somewhere in there. Just using different terms and not as clear cut.
This connector is usually found on the driverside in the footwell of the dash. Usually, right under the dash b/c emissions testing uses this connector.
This connector is usually found on the driverside in the footwell of the dash. Usually, right under the dash b/c emissions testing uses this connector.
#10
i found it it was right under the driver's side dash board like in every car in the US with an obd2 port. find your gas pedal and look straight up, it will be there smiling at you.
#11
My bad!!! I didn't realize that was the OBDII connector.
I didn't realize that shorting 2 pins on the OBDII connector would get the CEL to blink the trouble codes (and I cannot find anything about this in the Honda service manual). On my two Civics, there is a different connector near the engine computer (not the OBDII connector) that is used to get the CEL to flash error codes when two pins are shorted.
#12
"Basically, with car off and keys out. stick wire/paper clip into pins 4 and 9."
Where is this connector?
I have the Honda Service Manual (print version). There is no mention of any procedure like this (which I am amazed...this is the first car that I've owned that hasn't had a way of getting the codes without a scan tool).
Thanks for posting this. That's cool.
Where is this connector?
I have the Honda Service Manual (print version). There is no mention of any procedure like this (which I am amazed...this is the first car that I've owned that hasn't had a way of getting the codes without a scan tool).
Thanks for posting this. That's cool.
Look in the ABS Brakes section of your Helm Service Manual- it shows the connector location.
#13
I know where the connector is, but I haven't been able to find the procedure (shorting the pins) in the manual. Everything in the manual says to use a scan tool. I am a bit cautious when it comes to shorting pins on the OBDII connector if the procedure is not in the manual...who knows what damage you can do.
In my 92 and 96 Civic manuals, it shows how to short the pins (not on the OBDII connector, which came out in 96...the pins are near the computer) to get the codes.
#14
I know where the connector is, but I haven't been able to find the procedure (shorting the pins) in the manual. Everything in the manual says to use a scan tool. I am a bit cautious when it comes to shorting pins on the OBDII connector if the procedure is not in the manual...who knows what damage you can do.
In my 92 and 96 Civic manuals, it shows how to short the pins (not on the OBDII connector, which came out in 96...the pins are near the computer) to get the codes.
In my 92 and 96 Civic manuals, it shows how to short the pins (not on the OBDII connector, which came out in 96...the pins are near the computer) to get the codes.
#15
Honda does tell how to do it (by shorting two pins) in the official 92 and 96 Civic Service Manuals that I have. But it isn't the OBDII connector. It is a special connector near the engine computer.
That's why I'm surprised Honda doesn't tell how to do it in the Fit Service Manual.
#16
when they created the helms, it was for the Honda techs. Usually, they have these service and diagnostic tools on hand so they do not use "paperclips". sometimes, its called a "jumper connector" that is a whole connector with the shorted wire within it. Nowadays, service techs can just plug up the diagnostic machine and get the full detail.
But, OBD2 still works the same in all cars and jumpering the 2 pins will work just fine.
If you're too scared to pull the code this method, visit your local autopart store (ie. autozone) for a free OBD2 diagnostic scan.
But, OBD2 still works the same in all cars and jumpering the 2 pins will work just fine.
If you're too scared to pull the code this method, visit your local autopart store (ie. autozone) for a free OBD2 diagnostic scan.
#19
Great post. Just used it tonight -- read code 4. Car still runs fine so I'd like to reset the code. How can codes be reset? On my older car with OBD1 you just disconnect the battery and hit the brake pedal for a while (to remove all charge from the system) -- is it the same of ODB2? Would I need to get an acutal scan tool to reset the codes?
Thanks
Thanks
#20
Great post. Just used it tonight -- read code 4. Car still runs fine so I'd like to reset the code. How can codes be reset? On my older car with OBD1 you just disconnect the battery and hit the brake pedal for a while (to remove all charge from the system) -- is it the same of ODB2? Would I need to get an acutal scan tool to reset the codes?
Thanks
Thanks
If there is something really wrong, the way to reset the code is to fix the problem.