and you always seem to compare the S2000 to the Sti.....

 

hate honda? or realastic with common sense.

s2000 is what it is. a decent performing roadster that's pretty fun to drive.

best performing car for the dollar? not by a long shot.

 

stock vs stock, no regulation, no restriction, similarly priced.

 

[QUOTE=aywwsd]
take it any track/road course, and watch the s2000 get it's ass handed.

Any road course?

Well then! i'd like you to bring your Sti to a short to medium track that's frequented by S2000 and you'll probably get an answer. Also, are we talking about stock for stock or modded ones? Cause somehow you're getting me confuse with your past post.

And again you seem to have an excuse when compared your Sti to it's shortcomings but none when you're comparing to S2000.

 

A decent performing car? on straightaways? Long tracks? medium? short? autox? have you driven one on the track?

You really puzzle me....

 

1. when your m3 start costing around 30-35k, you can compare all you want. and for the sake of argument, we can compare the 2, your m3 only pulls 8.22, my car pulls 8.24, wow, 2 seconds, 20,000 dollars more.

2. other then price. dollar/performance, you lose.

3. wow... 7k worth of mods and only 230whp. i'll push 450whp with 7k worth of mods.

4. best in it's class, yea sure, when the only other cars in the class is the z3 and the 350 vert.

5. i have my memos, you have your friend who knows someone who tells you something.

 

[quote=GoFit]i have no problem admitting my short comings. no hertiage, no history, no awards, no car and driver top 10, ugly, no resale, no reliability, no interior.

and even on a short/medium track, my car will hold it's own. only track you have a chance against is a giant circle. who is the nascar hillbilly now??

 

i have driven a s2000 on a track.

real question is have you driven a sti??

 

I had an 04 EVO VIII with stage 1 from a local shop (AMS tuning).

 

[QUOTE=aywwsd]And where have i mentioned a giant circle? You might wanna scroll up and read my "the S2000 is not for straightlines, for ovals and for rallies.

so now all of a sudden you're car is down to holding it's own?

 

In fact if you have a buddy that's owns an EVO, i have the stage 1 still sitting in my garage for sale will be going on ebay soon

 

Oh i'm sorry it's not an Sti.....

 

Comparing the STI to the S2k as an "equal" vehicle is like comparing an Isuzu Box truck to a Daihatsu Midget......USELESS.

Yes, same price point, both performance cars, blah blah blah, but they provide 2 completely different experiences. Neither one will conclusively *always* outlap the other one, each can better the other given different courses. Straight-line performance is irrelevant, and if you disagree, I'll ask why you aren't driving a Cobra.

Someone who really wants an S2000 is never going to so much as think about an STI, it's just a night and day difference. Neither car is objectively superior to the other one.

Personally, I like lightweight RWD high-revving NA cars....which places me squarely as an S2k buyer (although I'd prefer a hardtop). How do I know I prefer this? I owned a WRX (04) and decided it wasn't my cup of tea, that doesn't mean it's a bad platform, or somehow inferior to the AP1.

Anyway, it doesn't make a lot of sense to compare the two cars by some absolute time-attack criteria. If you were really that serious about it, you'd all have stripped interiors, no AC, no stereo, and full cages. You each are obviously buying your assorted cars for different reasons, so let's leave it at that.

 

Thank you.

 

until what???

The rules in the endurance racing allow the same amount of modifications, between A3 (S2000) and A6 (Sti), so the STi should be faster and it is - over a few laps. The EVOs/WRX seem to loose to the S2000 race after race by consistently spending more time in the pits... Does this tell you anything about reliability?

Why don't you go and turn up the boost a bit on your ecobox and try to see if you can get in 20 laps before overheating/breaking down?

 

Exactly the point.

And judging by your comments, your mommy is a bitch by default for giving birth to an idiot like you. The world is full of idiots, we didn't need another one. And for the love of God, please keep your shit in your pants. The word doesn't need a bunch of aywwsd juniors running loose.

Not really, most S2000 drivers beat EVO/STi drivers so either the car just doesn't do well in auto-x or EVo/STi drivers suck. Its funny too... locally

I said that the S2000 is the best in its class, meaning roadster category. Reading comprehension would do you some good.

Wrong again. I have what have due to my own hard work. Its OK though, I forgive you for making your jealous assumptions. Not everyone can have what I have at 30 years old. Maybe if you learned to read, you would be doing better in life than selling cars for Honda. Loser.

Well it is a great performing car for the dollar, considering that it beats its more expensive competitors like the Z4, SLK and Boxster. Its definitely not the best though, IMO the distinction belongs to the Lotus Elise and the Z06.

The STi can be only compared to the EVO. Are you afraid that an overglorified ecobox is better?

1. A MY2001 M3 can be brought for around $35K now, which places it in STi territory. So lets compare, the M3 is better in every sinlge way.

2. Compared to others in its class, not really. See my worthless post above because I hate repeating myself if you can't read.

3. Yeah well I went the NA route and purchased all JDM parts. I could have spent $7K on a Vortech S/C but for me, power isn't everything. I didn't want to ruin the handling or reliability. IMO, the S2000 isn't meant to be FI'ed.

4. Miata, Z4, SLK, Boxster

5. Go fetch boy, go fetch.

You are. Damn, this is so easy.

 

I just wanna here about Fits being raced.
Lets here about the best oversteer fix for the Fit. Mine recomposes itself fine after lifting throttle but I was hoping a quick throttle release would at least fling some degree of the rear end outward. I mean the with this wheelbase, it should be intuitive.
Anyway I thought I'd steer the discussion to something interesting, or so?

 

Really this whole series of rants should be cut and pasted into another thread

 

Not that I really want to get myself too far into this thread, but no car is "better in every single way" than any other car. The STi is not "better in every single way" than a '91 Ford Festiva, because the Festiva gets better gas mileage and has a useful hatchback.

An M3 and an STi have vastly different design criteria, so they cannot be compared directly like that.

You also cannot compare cars independent of price, as that would be retarded. You can't say that a Gallardo is "better at everything" than the STI, because apparently the STI is better at NOT costing more than a townhouse.

Hell, even the Evo and STI, which are VERY similar cars, weren't designed to do EXACTLY the same thing, not from factory (although they are close). Neither one is objectively better than the other, they reward somewhat different driving styles, and each car has its fans.

So cut this shxt out.

 

I agree and understand. No car is absolutely better than any other. Well maybe the Enzo or Carrera GT. Anyways, my comments are purely sarcastic in nature.