Now you have confused me, what makes the S2000 a monocoque chassis?



BTW, you are updating me on my views of what a monocoque is if you can explain this because I was under the impression that monocoque has always been one piece structures made of predominantly carbon fiber. I know in bicycle manufacturing the only frames that can be called monocoque are the carbon fiber ones that have been created as one piece, not put together with lugs. All aluminum bikes are welded so they don't count. Unless the word monocoque is used very lightly in the automotive industry.



Wow page 6!

 

Lol, OK so I looked it up and it turns out we are both right, only in different ways.

In order to be called a monocoque the skin of the vehicle has to be able to provide strength and rigidity to a car.

What I was referring to in the picture of the F1 was a more pure form of monocoque where the body panels ie. the air dam, side pods and whole driver tub assembly are all one single piece without any welds. Without a doubt a "tub" monocoque is unequivocally stronger but both are monocoque.

I honestly had no idea spot welded frames were still considered monocoque but I can see where it does still act as one body.



You have enlightened me!

 

all i can say its more fun to drift in a 240sx than a S2000...the S2000 is still a well built machine

 

Lol, the fit is replacing my 240sx!

 

How about you try real racing instead of one lap wonders? Here are some race results to get you started;

ADAC Zürich 24h-Rennen Nürburgring 05-08 May 2005
Pos 13 #114 Honda S 2000 <= Best S2000
Pos 14 #67 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti <= Best WRX/EVO

24h DUBAI - TOYO TIRE 24h, 11-13 January 2006, Dubai Autodrome
Pos 5 #53 Honda S2000 <= Best S2000
Pos 61 #35 Subaru Impreza WRX <= Best WRX/EVO

 

well for now, but need the FIT for reliabilty and the 240 to beat on

 

Paulo: I need you to remove the picture of your Fit from your avatar and s/n. After my first black car, I swore I would never buy another. Three black cars later, I affirmed that pledge. You are KILLING ME!!! Black NO! Black BAD! Black get dirty FAST! no black, no black, NO BLACK. AAAARRRRGGGHHHH

 

how about you try to understand different groups and regulation. sti/evo have different regulation then s2000, and they dont even run in the same division group.

 

i'll indeed stop humping fat chicks, but who will love your mother then?

and comparing asm s2000 to the hks evo is like comparing fastest s2k to the fastest evo that ran on the track. hks evo might be the overweight rich talk show host, it still won.

first in it's class? whats that? 2 liter n/a? so civics and miatas? but gets it's ass handed by sti/evo left and right?

in the end, you still lose.

 

1. other then the porsche cost about 500,000. while the s2000 cost about the same as my no hertiage, no history, no vtec, but still beats your s2000 ecobox.

2. indeed one meaningless post deserve another. kinda like you comparing the porsche gt to my sti, yet wont compare your s2000 to my sti.

3. really, did you dyno it?? did you really achieve power at 9k? since when is 19x whp and 130 lb ft of torque achieving power?? i have 270whp and 300 lb ft of torque, 1000 bucks worth of mods, at 4000rpm until redline.

4. really? i'd figuared you to be a braindead idiot, trying to pretend s2000 as the best sports car at the price range.

5. wrong. nothing's been confirmed, last official notice was s2000 being discontinued 2006, as long as the xga starts production. i have dealer insider memos, you have google search engine.

and honda got great racing hertiage, too bad s2000 wasnt involved, as it have nothing.

 

lmao... do you really want to get into this??

world rally champion manufacturers' championship 1995, 1996, 1997

driver individual champioinship 2003, 2001, 1995

group n winner 2004, 2005

2005 solo2 scca winner in stu

2005 scca t2 winner

jaf super taikyu winner in 2004, 2005

no one cares how magazine rates cars, ford focus won car n driver top 10 five times, go sell your s2000 for the focus.

 

Those results are WITHOUT any groups, those are the overall positions. How about you try to understand that?

The EVO/WRX are in a "faster" class, but they cannot keep up... Does that annoy you?

 

Oh well, my mother is a bitch anyways.

Doesn't matter, different class of cars.

In its category and thats the roadster category if you haven't already figured it out yet, its the best. And the S2000 gets its ass handed to it by an overglorified ecobox? Since when? Is that how you explain why the S2000 beats them constantly in auto-x?

Lost? What have I lost? Last I checked, I still have all my real estate properties, my S2000 and M3 sitting in my garage and all my belongings. Although I do think I seemed to have misplaced my pen. Oh darn.

 

This is so entertaining

 

1. Ecobox? Funny, whats the EVO then? Its based on an ecobox, the POS Lancer. It doesn't matter if the Carrera GT is 15 times the price of the STi, it still kicks its ass. But for the sake of argument, my other car, a 2004 BMW M3 kicks its ass too around Nürburgring. Isn't the M3 a better comparison to the STi then the S2000? Lets compare apples to apples then.

2. Whats there to compare? One is a roadster and the other is a rally car. All I see is a lot of differences and no similarities.

3. Actually mine made 200 RWHP on the dyno, in stock form and is currently at 235 RWHP with $7K worth of power mods. I have a friend who is running a turbo in his S2000, producing over 300 RWHP.

4. It is the best in its category, you ignorant hillbilly.

5. Dealer insider memos? Then obviously you must have failed reading class in second grade. I guess thats why you working as a lowly salesman in a car dealership. I advise you to go fetch your internal 2007 S2000 color chart and read. All the dealers should have received it by now. And XGA is only a rumor, no reality. I have a friend who also happens to be a high level executive at AHM, and you should stop reading vtec.net so much.

X-frame chassis and its high revving engine are a direct result of its racing heritage. You should go read your own sales brochures more often. Oh wait you failed second grade reading, nevermind.

 

Since you seem to hate Honda so much, go quit your pathetic loser job and get another pathetic loser job at a Ford dealer where I'm sure you will love selling the Focus.

 

Anyone who owns an S2000 knows this.

Go to your nearest autox that S2000 and Evo/Sti regularly runs and see for yourself how the cars performs. I can't say, and even if i do, i know i'll just get discredited by someone else.

 

And don't get me wrong, I like the STi, although I'm not too sure about the new 06 look. Nevertheless, I considered getting one as a daily driver but decided on the M3 instead because of the luxury features. The STi is a great car, just hard to compare it to an S2000.

As for the EVO, well the performance is undeniable but any car based on the POS Lancer and made by MitSHITbishi won't get too much attention from me.

 

until you realize different groups have different regulation to what you can do with the body weight and amount of power allowed.

 

judging by your comments so far, your mom indeed is what she is.

and in auto x, s2000 dont own anything. evo/sti vs s2000 is a driver's race. take it any track/road course, and watch the s2000 get it's ass handed.

as for what you lost... how about common sense? s2000 best performing car for the price range. lay off the crack pipe.

p.s. last time i checked, a cardboard box next to a pay phone, your dad's car, doesnt make you any successful.