Anyone else get a loose engine splash shield under their car?
#261
If only Honda had used metal, rather than those tiny plastic screws. They are the problem. The little Philips head strip, and they can't be unscrewed. After installing a new set, I immediately tried to remove one, but it was already jammed. Using those little push-in plugs is so much easier.
#262
So how do you remove the two plastic things in the rear without breaking them like I did? I broke one, left the other on and just slid the shield to the side and completed the oil change. Now only one plastic thing in the rear of the shield. I'm planning on going to Honda in the morning to get a replacement, but after reading most of the this thread, it looks like I may need more than one.
I can't believe a 20min (MAX) oil change can take over an hour because of that stupid shield!!
I can't believe a 20min (MAX) oil change can take over an hour because of that stupid shield!!
#263
I think the dealer that did my first oil change did that for me and the second dealer that did the second oil change retained them - however they neglected to fully tighten the 6 tapping screws into the captive nuts, and missed one nut entirely. So next oil change I do myself, if I can find a place to work.
#264
Oh man! I guess I'm lucky, I waited till after lunch when it hit 75F. It's been a chilly mornings out here in Northern CA where the lows were about 46F. Can't imagine doing any oil changes in 20F!!! No garage??
#265
Before I got a garage, I would use a big sheet of cardboard to insulate me off the cold concrete. It helped a lot when I needed to wench in the cold.
#266
I love not having to change the oil by time and mileage. It saves me time and money. I'm at 40% now, and my son's at 50%. It hasn't said it wants new trans fluid yet, but I changed my son's at about 35K. I bought the fluid from Amazon - less expensive than the dealer.
#267
should just invest in an weather proof overall if you are in a snow belt state. night/day difference in warmth while working on cars in the winter time outside. its definitely NOT my choice to work on cars in the winter but sometimes we have to and the overall just makes it a comfy warm experience even in 0F weather.
and i use those round cardboards from tirerack as my disposable creeper and placemat for when i pour old oil into empty containers to ensure i dont drip any on my drivway. at the pace i buy wheels, i have A BUNCH of those round cardboards..
and i use those round cardboards from tirerack as my disposable creeper and placemat for when i pour old oil into empty containers to ensure i dont drip any on my drivway. at the pace i buy wheels, i have A BUNCH of those round cardboards..
#268
oh, and that lower shroud design by honda is a piece of crap, the hardware they use is a faking joke. i work on my cars too and the GK's lower shroud is the cheeziest ive seen in a while.
#270
There is only one part that needs to be removed; it is the frontmost piece of plastic shrouding, no-one removes more than that one part. To say your dealer only removes the front part is to say that your dealer does exactly what everyone else does.
#272
I remove the whole cover because I don't want to pull down on it, applying stress to those two rear mounts. Also, when the oil comes out, it shoots toward the rear of the car - and that cover.
#273
I think there is some confusion on what the part that is removed. The whole splash shield assembly is three pieces seen in this picture:
The center piece is the only one needed to be removed for an oil change. It is held on by 6 metal screws and capture nuts in the front, then 2 plastic push pins in the rear.
I remove the whole center piece, 6 screws and 2 plastic push pins. It only takes a few minutes.
Where you have problems is if someone rushes to put it back on. Doesn't slip the front piece under the bumper (it helps hold it on), or doesn't make sure the screws go into the capture nuts and tighten it down, or the plastic push pins aren't tight in the holes. Or a combination of.
The center piece is the only one needed to be removed for an oil change. It is held on by 6 metal screws and capture nuts in the front, then 2 plastic push pins in the rear.
I remove the whole center piece, 6 screws and 2 plastic push pins. It only takes a few minutes.
Where you have problems is if someone rushes to put it back on. Doesn't slip the front piece under the bumper (it helps hold it on), or doesn't make sure the screws go into the capture nuts and tighten it down, or the plastic push pins aren't tight in the holes. Or a combination of.
#274
I think there is some confusion on what the part that is removed. The whole splash shield assembly is three pieces seen in this picture:
The center piece is the only one needed to be removed for an oil change. It is held on by 6 metal screws and capture nuts in the front, then 2 plastic push pins in the rear.
I remove the whole center piece, 6 screws and 2 plastic push pins. It only takes a few minutes.
Where you have problems is if someone rushes to put it back on. Doesn't slip the front piece under the bumper (it helps hold it on), or doesn't make sure the screws go into the capture nuts and tighten it down, or the plastic push pins aren't tight in the holes. Or a combination of.
The center piece is the only one needed to be removed for an oil change. It is held on by 6 metal screws and capture nuts in the front, then 2 plastic push pins in the rear.
I remove the whole center piece, 6 screws and 2 plastic push pins. It only takes a few minutes.
Where you have problems is if someone rushes to put it back on. Doesn't slip the front piece under the bumper (it helps hold it on), or doesn't make sure the screws go into the capture nuts and tighten it down, or the plastic push pins aren't tight in the holes. Or a combination of.
#276
I think there is some confusion on what the part that is removed. The whole splash shield assembly is three pieces seen in this picture:
The center piece is the only one needed to be removed for an oil change. It is held on by 6 metal screws and capture nuts in the front, then 2 plastic push pins in the rear.
I remove the whole center piece, 6 screws and 2 plastic push pins. It only takes a few minutes.
Where you have problems is if someone rushes to put it back on. Doesn't slip the front piece under the bumper (it helps hold it on), or doesn't make sure the screws go into the capture nuts and tighten it down, or the plastic push pins aren't tight in the holes. Or a combination of.
The center piece is the only one needed to be removed for an oil change. It is held on by 6 metal screws and capture nuts in the front, then 2 plastic push pins in the rear.
I remove the whole center piece, 6 screws and 2 plastic push pins. It only takes a few minutes.
Where you have problems is if someone rushes to put it back on. Doesn't slip the front piece under the bumper (it helps hold it on), or doesn't make sure the screws go into the capture nuts and tighten it down, or the plastic push pins aren't tight in the holes. Or a combination of.
So Honda calls the center plastic piece an "under cover." What an awful, vague name. Sounds like it is "the thing that covers the under." But what's an "under"? Even "the piece of plastic" is more precise.
I think "the section of plastic shrouding at the front of the car under the engine" is the best name I've heard so far, though I don't think it's all that good a name. What purpose does all that plastic shrouding serve? I guess to provide some aerodynamics, and to protect the metal parts above it from mud, snow, salt, etcetera? I can't think of anything else. Maybe it serves to provide some protection from injury, to the rubber sections of the brake lines?
Last edited by nomenclator; 03-27-2018 at 02:01 AM.
#277
It is time for affected Fit owners to start writing Honda HQ about the splash shield issue to get refunds, if not a recall. My dad had an expensive repair that the Toyota dealership claimed was not a warranty issue. When he wrote to Toyota HQ they refunded all his costs.
NHTSA Vehicle Complaint Form
NHTSA Vehicle Complaint Form
#278
Funny, but sad. Have you guys really removed your splash guards? I'm thinking of doing it.
#279
Good idea. I'm using a combination of bumper push-pins and safety pins with the clip through them - two different Fits. Now I have to find a replacement for the sheetmetal screws. I've lost a couple of those flimsy speednuts that they screw into, so those spots have nothing holding the shield in place.