What brand and grade of gas are you using? 87 or higher?
#141
As many others here have indicated, anything higher than 87 octain (unleaded regular) is a waste to money. Even if higher octane got slightly better mileage, would it justify the higher price? Even with what looks like a high compression ratio, I'm believe that a lower rating would work for a short time.
#143
it is different, europe uses RON and US uses an equation of (RON + MON)/2 which is the anti knock index (AKI)
#144
OK, just did a wander round t'interweb and found this
So our regular 95 is equivalent(ish) to your mid-grade 90(ish)
... and your gallons are smaller than ours too. Highly confusing.
In the US, octane ratings in unleaded fuels can vary between 85 and 87 AKI (91-92 RON) for regular, through 89-90 AKI (94-95 RON) for mid-grade (equivalent to European regular), up to 90-94 AKI (95-99 RON) for premium (European premium).
... and your gallons are smaller than ours too. Highly confusing.
Two nations divided by the same language
#145
At 11.5 to 1 compression the FIT is right on the edge of being able to exploit higher than 87 octane, ON a very damp high density air day at the drag strip hitting the limiter on shifts you'd see a benefit (VERY VERY small) If you had a Exhaust gas temp gage. It would cool down a bit. Same with say a 100 degree day in the desert, the 92 will reduce ping with the low density air and high inlet air temps, the ECU can compensate but it does so based other sensor input.
The normal rule of thumb is 12.5 to 1 and higher benefits from premium fuel but the variables in the OEM ECU tuning make it unlikely that you getting much power..
Computers rule.. For instance my KTM 950 motorcycle has a carb, no computer fuel control, and 11.5 to 1 compression just like the fit, 92 is mandatory.. Barely starts on 87... It has a special jumper you can remove to limp on lower octane, retards the timing but its drives like crap..
The normal rule of thumb is 12.5 to 1 and higher benefits from premium fuel but the variables in the OEM ECU tuning make it unlikely that you getting much power..
Computers rule.. For instance my KTM 950 motorcycle has a carb, no computer fuel control, and 11.5 to 1 compression just like the fit, 92 is mandatory.. Barely starts on 87... It has a special jumper you can remove to limp on lower octane, retards the timing but its drives like crap..
Last edited by dwtaylorpdx; 11-23-2015 at 04:07 PM.
#146
At 11.5 to 1 compression the FIT is right on the edge of being able to exploit higher than 87 octane, ON a very damp high density air day at the drag strip hitting the limiter on shifts you'd see a benefit (VERY VERY small) If you had a Exhaust gas temp gage. It would cool down a bit. Same with say a 100 degree day in the desert, the 92 will reduce ping with the low density air and high inlet air temps, the ECU can compensate but it does so based other sensor input.
The normal rule of thumb is 12.5 to 1 and higher benefits from premium fuel but the variables in the OEM ECU tuning make it unlikely that you getting much power..
FOr instance my KTM 950 motorcycle has a carb, no computer fuel control, and 11.5 to 1 compression just like the fit, 92 is mandatory..
The normal rule of thumb is 12.5 to 1 and higher benefits from premium fuel but the variables in the OEM ECU tuning make it unlikely that you getting much power..
FOr instance my KTM 950 motorcycle has a carb, no computer fuel control, and 11.5 to 1 compression just like the fit, 92 is mandatory..
#147
I'd love to see a definitive answer - California Regular 87 or Premium 91. Just to be hopeful I'm going to fill with 91 for my next weekend tearing through our San Diego East County winding and hilly two lane roads.
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#150
wow wow...
never expect fit should be fed with something higher than 87.
It's a budget car, not a luxury car. And U.S's fuel quality should be better than most other countries.
but it's only my opinion. 13k, 87 only, no problem at all.
Winder is always lower with heat on-temp. I have ~29 MPG city only. Summer this number will be higher.
never expect fit should be fed with something higher than 87.
It's a budget car, not a luxury car. And U.S's fuel quality should be better than most other countries.
but it's only my opinion. 13k, 87 only, no problem at all.
Winder is always lower with heat on-temp. I have ~29 MPG city only. Summer this number will be higher.
#151
wow wow...
never expect fit should be fed with something higher than 87.
It's a budget car, not a luxury car. And U.S's fuel quality should be better than most other countries.
but it's only my opinion. 13k, 87 only, no problem at all.
Winder is always lower with heat on-temp. I have ~29 MPG city only. Summer this number will be higher.
never expect fit should be fed with something higher than 87.
It's a budget car, not a luxury car. And U.S's fuel quality should be better than most other countries.
but it's only my opinion. 13k, 87 only, no problem at all.
Winder is always lower with heat on-temp. I have ~29 MPG city only. Summer this number will be higher.
#152
Fuel grades, ethanol-free?
I have been using 87 with no issues in my 2009 Fit. I have NEVER heard spark knock even under WOT in the heat of Summer. I stick with top tiers only. However, I'm curious to try a local supplier's ethanol-free fuel (Wawa). Currently that sells for $2.69/gal, although 87 regular is at $1.69, so a bit of a price hit there. No, there's no way any mileage added will offset the cost difference, but it would be an interesting trial experiment.
#153
Most of the Fit owners in this forum are from United States, I have read a couple of post stating that manual says regular 87, but my Fit's manual says "Unleaded petrol, research octane number of 91 or higher".
My country's regulation mandates that regular fuel should be minimum of 89 and premium 95 (octane).
I've been using regular since the last two full tanks, no knocking sounds so far, should I switch?
My country's regulation mandates that regular fuel should be minimum of 89 and premium 95 (octane).
I've been using regular since the last two full tanks, no knocking sounds so far, should I switch?
#154
Most of the Fit owners in this forum are from United States, I have read a couple of post stating that manual says regular 87, but my Fit's manual says "Unleaded petrol, research octane number of 91 or higher".
My country's regulation mandates that regular fuel should be minimum of 89 and premium 95 (octane).
I've been using regular since the last two full tanks, no knocking sounds so far, should I switch?
My country's regulation mandates that regular fuel should be minimum of 89 and premium 95 (octane).
I've been using regular since the last two full tanks, no knocking sounds so far, should I switch?
#155
I have been using 87 with no issues in my 2009 Fit. I have NEVER heard spark knock even under WOT in the heat of Summer. I stick with top tiers only. However, I'm curious to try a local supplier's ethanol-free fuel (Wawa). Currently that sells for $2.69/gal, although 87 regular is at $1.69, so a bit of a price hit there. No, there's no way any mileage added will offset the cost difference, but it would be an interesting trial experiment.
#156
Most of the Fit owners in this forum are from United States, I have read a couple of post stating that manual says regular 87, but my Fit's manual says "Unleaded petrol, research octane number of 91 or higher".
My country's regulation mandates that regular fuel should be minimum of 89 and premium 95 (octane).
I've been using regular since the last two full tanks, no knocking sounds so far, should I switch?
My country's regulation mandates that regular fuel should be minimum of 89 and premium 95 (octane).
I've been using regular since the last two full tanks, no knocking sounds so far, should I switch?
One is Motor octane. The second is Research octane. Research is always higher by around 7 to 9 points for the same fuel.
So we have a research number, a motor number and in the US and Canada we have an average of the two expressed as R+M/2. So your octane number of 91 is approximately equal to our 87.
#159
I've not had any problems with my older vehicles concerning ethanol, but I have replaced all the fuel lines with modern ethanol-resistant materials. Luckily, my carburators and fuel pumps seem to be compatible with it.
#160