2015 Fit: How to Prevent or Delay the "Replace Fuel Injector" problem?
#1
2015 Fit: How to Prevent or Delay the "Replace Fuel Injector" problem?
I bought my new 2015 Honda Fit EX CVT in 2014 that was delivered on September 22, 2014.
It is no longer under warranty.
I have read on this forum many horror stories about the issues with the poorly designed fuel injectors that fail and have repair costs of around $1500-$2200.
Thankfully I have yet to have the issue and I am trying to do everything possible to not experience it.
In the past I have filled up with Top Tier gas about every other fill-up.
This is what I will be doing from now on:
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Only doing fill-up's with Top Tier gas
On the next five fill-ups I am putting in a can of Chevron Techron Complete Fuel System Cleaner 12oz
Thereafter I will add a additional can every four fill-ups.
I was able to purchase 10x Techron 12oz for $48.60 (tax included)
If anyone has any additional ideas please post them
It is no longer under warranty.
I have read on this forum many horror stories about the issues with the poorly designed fuel injectors that fail and have repair costs of around $1500-$2200.
Thankfully I have yet to have the issue and I am trying to do everything possible to not experience it.
In the past I have filled up with Top Tier gas about every other fill-up.
This is what I will be doing from now on:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Only doing fill-up's with Top Tier gas
On the next five fill-ups I am putting in a can of Chevron Techron Complete Fuel System Cleaner 12oz
Thereafter I will add a additional can every four fill-ups.
I was able to purchase 10x Techron 12oz for $48.60 (tax included)
If anyone has any additional ideas please post them
Last edited by CIOWN; 06-18-2019 at 04:48 PM.
#2
I routinely fill up with the cheapest gas I can find, typically Murphy which is a Walmart brand and is not Top tier. Touch wood, I haven't had a problem with injector issues and I am at almost 78K. I also get about 44-47 MPG per tank. I empathize with the owners who have had injector issues, but I'm not sure if there is really anything as end users we can do if there is a defect in the product.
I'll keep doing what I'm doing and will report back if my situation changes.
Feel free to do whatever voodoo you want and report back on it's effectiveness.
Hopefully both of us have no problems
I'll keep doing what I'm doing and will report back if my situation changes.
Feel free to do whatever voodoo you want and report back on it's effectiveness.
Hopefully both of us have no problems
#3
I don't have a 2015, but a 2017 LX CVT. I put the cheapest 87 octane available. At 38K miles, no issue, no indications of misfire so far. Most of my driving is single person highway, so there are times when I can get calculated 50 mpg between topping off each fill. (The Honda mpg display is not accurate and should not be used to brag about mpg). I have gone over 500 miles on a full tank (11.33 gallons) of gas.
Last edited by wasserball; 06-18-2019 at 05:30 PM.
#4
I routinely fill up with the cheapest gas I can find, typically Murphy which is a Walmart brand and is not Top tier. Touch wood, I haven't had a problem with injector issues and I am at almost 78K. I also get about 44-47 MPG per tank. I empathize with the owners who have had injector issues, but I'm not sure if there is really anything as end users we can do if there is a defect in the product.
I'll keep doing what I'm doing and will report back if my situation changes.
Feel free to do whatever voodoo you want and report back on it's effectiveness.
Hopefully both of us have no problems
I'll keep doing what I'm doing and will report back if my situation changes.
Feel free to do whatever voodoo you want and report back on it's effectiveness.
Hopefully both of us have no problems
The problems with the poorly designed fuel injectors (Honda knows this and has issued a TSB on it) is that they become clogged. Poor gas (non Top Tier) and just normal carbon buildup because of the poor design seems to be the main reason.
If using Top Tier gas and doing a Fuel Cleaning maintenance is what you consider to be VooDoo then so be it.
As for posting results. If I never get the dreaded fuel injector failure then I will consider doing the above well worth it.
#5
I don't have a 2015, but a 2017 LX CVT. I put the cheapest 87 octane available. At 38K miles, no issue so far. Most of my driving is single person highway, so there are times when I can get 50 mpg topping off between calculations. (The Honda mpg display is not accurate and should not be used to brag about mpg).
#6
You actually fit 11.33 gallons in your tank? When mine is down to "empty"/zero bars on the gas gauge, am lucky to get 9.5 gallons in …..I thought the tank was 10.something gallons? Perhaps your gas station has inaccurate gas pumps to gouge you for more $$$? Just wonderin'...
#8
You actually fit 11.33 gallons in your tank? When mine is down to "empty"/zero bars on the gas gauge, am lucky to get 9.5 gallons in …..I thought the tank was 10.something gallons? Perhaps your gas station has inaccurate gas pumps to gouge you for more $$$? Just wonderin'...
OK guys, don't give me the classic crap about starving the fuel pump and allowing it to overheat.
Last edited by wasserball; 06-18-2019 at 11:11 PM.
#9
I'm at 113k miles on a Christmas week 2014 build EX 6 gear. I've only had annoying issues with the car, nothing serious, and nothing replaced other than gas, tires, and oil, and recently a battery. For problems you only really hear from pissed off people on forums. I'd jump in mine and drive across the country right now without fear.
#10
I'm at 113k miles on a Christmas week 2014 build EX 6 gear. I've only had annoying issues with the car, nothing serious, and nothing replaced other than gas, tires, and oil, and recently a battery. For problems you only really hear from pissed off people on forums. I'd jump in mine and drive across the country right now without fear.
Last edited by wasserball; 06-19-2019 at 10:32 AM.
#11
Well, the Honda reps used to lurk here, and occasionally chime in, but that was before the injectors and starters started imploding. Haven't heard a peep from them lately. Full-time job fielding concerns if someone from Honda wants it.
#12
Interesting thread, I wasn't aware of this... glad the problem was sorted out. Manufacturers are always tweaking for cost savings/ performance, not surprised to see some issues arise. Ironically, my two Preludes have never had injector issues... back in the EFI days they were concerned with longevity, so no cheap bits .
#13
I remember a thread once where someone actually explained the design issue that made the fuel injectors susceptible to failure, And at the time I thought I understood it. I've since forgotten the details.
But what I remember is it's ALL in the design and how they work in practice. So unfortunately there isn't much you can do. It's not something that necessarily will happen if you run cheaper gasoline, nor is it something you can prevent by running more expensive gasoline or fuel system cleaners.
I think you drive and hope you don't have a problem...and then unfortunately deal with it and make decisions when and if you do.
But what I remember is it's ALL in the design and how they work in practice. So unfortunately there isn't much you can do. It's not something that necessarily will happen if you run cheaper gasoline, nor is it something you can prevent by running more expensive gasoline or fuel system cleaners.
I think you drive and hope you don't have a problem...and then unfortunately deal with it and make decisions when and if you do.
#15
Finally got me
I guess, according to the lights on my dash and my trusted mechanic, I need this replacement done. Was quoted about $2400.. That seems very painful, but after 182,000 miles on our 2015 and no other major issues I am not going to gripe. After all I have a goal of at least 300,000 miles. The car in all other aspects is a 9 and my wife loves it AND you can't get purple anymore!!!
#16
I guess, according to the lights on my dash and my trusted mechanic, I need this replacement done. Was quoted about $2400.. That seems very painful, but after 182,000 miles on our 2015 and no other major issues I am not going to gripe. After all I have a goal of at least 300,000 miles. The car in all other aspects is a 9 and my wife loves it AND you can't get purple anymore!!!
#18
Used engine $400
thats insane. I can buy a new (used) engine off a parts car for $400 here in Los Angeles. I’d do that all day before I pay 2500 for an injector job. I’m sure I can swap that engine out in half a day. Check your wrecked car dismantlers. You’d be surprised how cheap parts are for these cars. Mine has 180K and it’s a 2015 as well. I just got it. If the injectors fail and it’s looking at 2500 you best believe it’s getting a new engine 😂😂
#19
thats insane. I can buy a new (used) engine off a parts car for $400 here in Los Angeles. I’d do that all day before I pay 2500 for an injector job. I’m sure I can swap that engine out in half a day. Check your wrecked car dismantlers. You’d be surprised how cheap parts are for these cars. Mine has 180K and it’s a 2015 as well. I just got it. If the injectors fail and it’s looking at 2500 you best believe it’s getting a new engine 😂😂
Edit: Here's the relevant TSB btw since I see it's not attached in this thread:
Last edited by Jared592; 03-18-2021 at 04:24 PM.
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