2009 Fit
#103
There is improvement, however, over the nearly identical blue version of that concept in that the leading edge of the front wheel arch is more pronounced, and there is a definitive horizontal edge from the bottom of the grill opening to the edge of the wheel arch. Both sharpen up the front in a very positive way. In Fact, the green photo shows all creases and edges much clearer, lending the car a more purposeful image.
It's as if, in the blue images, you were supposed to get the impression of there being creases in the metal, without the need to actually put them there...very French feeling, but with a German intentionality to it. The green car takes the same exact style, but sharpens it up...much more Honda, much more Japanese. Exciting? Not particularly, but clean and efficient and purposeful.
I maintain that I would like to see the grill opening of the gray picture incorporated into the design....but the green is much better.
It's as if, in the blue images, you were supposed to get the impression of there being creases in the metal, without the need to actually put them there...very French feeling, but with a German intentionality to it. The green car takes the same exact style, but sharpens it up...much more Honda, much more Japanese. Exciting? Not particularly, but clean and efficient and purposeful.
I maintain that I would like to see the grill opening of the gray picture incorporated into the design....but the green is much better.
#105
#109
Originally Posted by pontopt
Here is a "new" picture:
#110
Originally Posted by LuxuryFit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
All of you who are negative are sooo Transparent!
It's so painfully obvious that all you guys are just jealous of something
you can never have.
As for me, I'm always very excited about a new model.
I hope they do put out an all new Fit for 2008!
I hope it is 10 times better looking than the 2007,
and comes with a hybrid that gets 60/65
If i have already bought my 07', i'll just sell it and get the new 08'!
All of you who are negative are sooo Transparent!
It's so painfully obvious that all you guys are just jealous of something
you can never have.
As for me, I'm always very excited about a new model.
I hope they do put out an all new Fit for 2008!
I hope it is 10 times better looking than the 2007,
and comes with a hybrid that gets 60/65
If i have already bought my 07', i'll just sell it and get the new 08'!
#111
pontopt,
That picture posted by Henry is probably the closest to what the 2008 Fit will look like.
I think the 2008 Fit for North America will sport the following changes:
1. All-new 1.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine with direct fuel injection rated at 122 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) but with fuel efficiency more akin to the i-DSI engines.
2. Your choice of six-speed manual or CVT-7 automatic (North American market Fits will no longer use the 5AT automatic).
3. New instrument panel that will now include a true temperature gauge. Expect options for full navigation system and/or automatic climate control.
4. North American market cars will be built at Honda's new Greensburg, IN assembly line.
That picture posted by Henry is probably the closest to what the 2008 Fit will look like.
I think the 2008 Fit for North America will sport the following changes:
1. All-new 1.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine with direct fuel injection rated at 122 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) but with fuel efficiency more akin to the i-DSI engines.
2. Your choice of six-speed manual or CVT-7 automatic (North American market Fits will no longer use the 5AT automatic).
3. New instrument panel that will now include a true temperature gauge. Expect options for full navigation system and/or automatic climate control.
4. North American market cars will be built at Honda's new Greensburg, IN assembly line.
#112
Originally Posted by MtViewGuy188
pontopt,
That picture posted by Henry is probably the closest to what the 2008 Fit will look like.
I think the 2008 Fit for North America will sport the following changes:
1. All-new 1.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine with direct fuel injection rated at 122 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) but with fuel efficiency more akin to the i-DSI engines.
2. Your choice of six-speed manual or CVT-7 automatic (North American market Fits will no longer use the 5AT automatic).
3. New instrument panel that will now include a true temperature gauge. Expect options for full navigation system and/or automatic climate control.
4. North American market cars will be built at Honda's new Greensburg, IN assembly line.
That picture posted by Henry is probably the closest to what the 2008 Fit will look like.
I think the 2008 Fit for North America will sport the following changes:
1. All-new 1.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine with direct fuel injection rated at 122 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) but with fuel efficiency more akin to the i-DSI engines.
2. Your choice of six-speed manual or CVT-7 automatic (North American market Fits will no longer use the 5AT automatic).
3. New instrument panel that will now include a true temperature gauge. Expect options for full navigation system and/or automatic climate control.
4. North American market cars will be built at Honda's new Greensburg, IN assembly line.
why exactly would they mount a 6speed to a 1.5L? and i doubt the creature comforts will see the light here in the U.S.
#113
The Greensburg facility won't be building anything before the 09 model year. And while Japn may get these features adding them to a Fit over here would put the price and content above the Civic and that simply isn't going to happen.
Honda has stated that the next hybrid will be a dedicated hybrid and will not be the FIT.
You will get a hp incease but I would expect 115-118 range, and I would not be surprised to see a CVT only for the transmission no manual.
Honda has stated that the next hybrid will be a dedicated hybrid and will not be the FIT.
You will get a hp incease but I would expect 115-118 range, and I would not be surprised to see a CVT only for the transmission no manual.
#114
Originally Posted by Ricepuddin
why exactly would they mount a 6speed to a 1.5L? and i doubt the creature comforts will see the light here in the U.S.
Since the EPA now mandates low-sulfur motor fuels, Honda can safely integrate direct fuel injection into their NA-market engines since there are no worries about sulfur compounds damaging the injectors used on DI systems. That's why I think we'll see a 1.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine with DI rated at 122 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) for NA-market Fits. As for going to CVT automatic, because demand for the Civic with the 5AT is so strong in both North America and eastern Asia, Honda is running at capacity building 5AT units just for the Civic; therefore, it would be better if the new Fit goes CVT only for the automatic transmission, especially considering the success of the NA-market Nissan Versa with the JATCO CVT unit.
#115
Originally Posted by Stevens24
Honda has stated that the next hybrid will be a dedicated hybrid and will not be the FIT.
#116
Originally Posted by MtViewGuy188
pontopt,
...
I think the 2008 Fit for North America will sport the following changes:
1. All-new 1.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine with direct fuel injection rated at 122 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) but with fuel efficiency more akin to the i-DSI engines.
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...
I think the 2008 Fit for North America will sport the following changes:
1. All-new 1.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine with direct fuel injection rated at 122 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) but with fuel efficiency more akin to the i-DSI engines.
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#118
I think Honda floated the end of model life cycle 2007 Fit in NA as a trial balloon and sorta play catch-up with Toyota and their Scion brand. However, it looks like Toyota is set to lower the boom. The Yaris is starting to hit the streets in NA (a significantly more modern car than the smidgen of Fits we've seen in NA) and next comes all new Scion vehicles (Xa and Xb to be completely replaced).
I think Honda is going to get out of this segment in NA to focus in Japan and to focus on the Civic range on up, it's real bread and butter in NA. Right now, the new Camry is killing the Accord. So, with oil and gas prices coming back down, look for the 2007 Fit to be the last Honda this size in NA for some time.
I think Honda is going to get out of this segment in NA to focus in Japan and to focus on the Civic range on up, it's real bread and butter in NA. Right now, the new Camry is killing the Accord. So, with oil and gas prices coming back down, look for the 2007 Fit to be the last Honda this size in NA for some time.
#119
Fit in North America
I think Honda is going to get out of this segment in NA to focus in Japan and to focus on the Civic range on up, it's real bread and butter in NA. Right now, the new Camry is killing the Accord. So, with oil and gas prices coming back down, look for the 2007 Fit to be the last Honda this size in NA for some time.
This observation is not correct. When the plan to build the facility was released to the media, Honda had announced in Japan that the Fit would be built in Greensburg IN starting in 2008. They will not be getting out of this segment in North America. In fact, they will be adding more to it. The Civic going slightly upscale has created a zone for the Fit.
Honda has a lot to thank Toyota for the development of this market segment with the success of Scion. That became a discovery for the Japanese automakers that there is a volume to be picked up.
This observation is not correct. When the plan to build the facility was released to the media, Honda had announced in Japan that the Fit would be built in Greensburg IN starting in 2008. They will not be getting out of this segment in North America. In fact, they will be adding more to it. The Civic going slightly upscale has created a zone for the Fit.
Honda has a lot to thank Toyota for the development of this market segment with the success of Scion. That became a discovery for the Japanese automakers that there is a volume to be picked up.
#120
The Camry is only beating the Accord due to its rental rocket status. Toyota needs to worry about there falling reliability and the fact that they have more recalled vehicles than sold vehicles. Honda bases very few of there decisions on what Toyota does. And if Toyota is so dominant tell them to start putting there vehicles in comparisons with Honda. They lost 5 in a row so now they took there ball and went home.