How often do you change your oil???
#66
08-24-2024 | 06:56 PM
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Joined: Sep 2023
Posts: 26
From: New york
Tire rotation is not exactly a safety issue.
It's a financial issue just to save money for the frugal consumer.
From a performance perspective, keeping the tires where they started will wear them in in their natural rotation, so the are actually the "safest" where they started (until you reach the tread limits).
Here's a thought experiment, High performance sports cars have corner specific tires blog, there is no rotation for them.
For the fit, Front tires tend to wear the edges/shoulders more; rear tires the center.
front tires wear about twice as fast as the rear.
If anything as far as safety, when you rotate your tires, they actually have less of a contact patch so and take time to rewear down the high edge of that tire to be a fuller contact patch.
The longer you wait, when you finally do the rotation, there is the most difference in the tires from true-round , so there is a biggest difference to rewear down to fit the natural alignment of the new corner.
But it's not really a true vital service or if you do not rotate tires, it is just you may reach the min tread at a section of your tire faster. There are other checkpoints of a tire like if it's starting to get hardened old and cracked, the PSI and treaddesign and treaddepth which are far more important to overall safety.
As for what I do; for my first set of OEM tires, I just rotated once, when the fronts were about 50% (backs were about 75%).
Then when the new fronts were about 25% the backs were also about 25%; i said time to switch to continental dws, these tires are getting hard and crusty.
For my current pair of dws, these are treadmarked with DWS. I plan to wear the fronts until the S goes away. Then switch the lesser worn rears (which still should have S showing) to the front for the next winter season until those S's go away.
Then finally time to replace when i only have Ws left at the start of the subsequent winter.
It's a financial issue just to save money for the frugal consumer.
From a performance perspective, keeping the tires where they started will wear them in in their natural rotation, so the are actually the "safest" where they started (until you reach the tread limits).
Here's a thought experiment, High performance sports cars have corner specific tires blog, there is no rotation for them.
For the fit, Front tires tend to wear the edges/shoulders more; rear tires the center.
front tires wear about twice as fast as the rear.
If anything as far as safety, when you rotate your tires, they actually have less of a contact patch so and take time to rewear down the high edge of that tire to be a fuller contact patch.
The longer you wait, when you finally do the rotation, there is the most difference in the tires from true-round , so there is a biggest difference to rewear down to fit the natural alignment of the new corner.
But it's not really a true vital service or if you do not rotate tires, it is just you may reach the min tread at a section of your tire faster. There are other checkpoints of a tire like if it's starting to get hardened old and cracked, the PSI and treaddesign and treaddepth which are far more important to overall safety.
As for what I do; for my first set of OEM tires, I just rotated once, when the fronts were about 50% (backs were about 75%).
Then when the new fronts were about 25% the backs were also about 25%; i said time to switch to continental dws, these tires are getting hard and crusty.
For my current pair of dws, these are treadmarked with DWS. I plan to wear the fronts until the S goes away. Then switch the lesser worn rears (which still should have S showing) to the front for the next winter season until those S's go away.
Then finally time to replace when i only have Ws left at the start of the subsequent winter.
#67
08-24-2024 | 07:49 PM
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Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 365
From: Concord, Ca.
I really can't remember ever seeing a post resurrected after 10+ years......
Automotive engine oil technology has really made great strides in both snthetic vs conventional oils- especially over the last 10 years. I would ignore what members did for oil changes 10 years ago and look on the internet for published info on what the petroleum companies are publishing for recommended oil change intervals. Current info should also be researched from oil filter manufacturers as to how many miles oil filters can go- especially with synthetic oils.
Just my two cents worth.
Automotive engine oil technology has really made great strides in both snthetic vs conventional oils- especially over the last 10 years. I would ignore what members did for oil changes 10 years ago and look on the internet for published info on what the petroleum companies are publishing for recommended oil change intervals. Current info should also be researched from oil filter manufacturers as to how many miles oil filters can go- especially with synthetic oils.
Just my two cents worth.
#68
08-25-2024 | 12:16 PM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,285
From: California
@irontmp I change my oil and filter very 3,000 mi. I use Amsoil 0W20 Full Synthetic and a Honda OEM oil filter (the ones that are made in Japan).
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