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Old 08-16-2012, 01:30 AM
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What size rim and tire package are you running on your GE

What size rim and tire packages are you guys running on your GE's?

Thought I'd come here to ask because I'm not all that great on this subject!

I lowered my friend's GE w/ Tein S-Techs which gave it a nice drop.

He decided to roll with a 16x7 Rota Circuit 8 +40 with a 205/50/16 tire on it...and it rubs in the rear just on the right hand side though...
We figured we can just roll the fenders and it will be ok but he thinks it will still rub if you put people in the back.

Now if he goes with a 17" rim what width, offset and tire size will get it so that it doesn't rub? He wants to stick with Rotas .. the ones he wants are 17 x 7.5 with a +45...is that rim too wide?

Please help......
 
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:49 AM
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:08 AM
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Rolled fenders in the rear with a 205 on a +40 should not rub. I ran this same setup for 2 years. The front though is a different story.
 
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:37 AM
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17x7 +45 front, +40 rear
215/45-17
 
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBoogers
17x7 +45 front, +40 rear
215/45-17
Those enkei's you linked are 5 lug..do they make 4 lug as well?
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:48 AM
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You guys are going to make your cars accelerate like turtles by using such large wheels and tires..
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:28 AM
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I am using rota SVN 7 x 7.5 offset +45 on nitto neogen 215/40/r17 in all 4 wheels, dropped 1.5inches via tein s-tech on my GE8, and I never experience any rubbing at all. hope this helps
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
You guys are going to make your cars accelerate like turtles by using such large wheels and tires..
Nu uh. The PF01's in 17x7 only weigh about 16lb
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OldSkoolSi
Those enkei's you linked are 5 lug..do they make 4 lug as well?
My PF01s are four lug:

 
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by krunk13
Nu uh. The PF01's in 17x7 only weigh about 16lb
unprung wheel weight is not the only contributing factor to how fast your car will accelerate.

since your 17" rims have mostly all the weight towards the now larger circumfrance of the wheel, it takes more power to actually start turning the wheel.
im not going to get into math calculations here, but think about it like this..
your arm extended, lift up a 20lb weight....takes alot fo force.
your arm curled closer to your body, lift up 20lbs...no where near as difficult.

yes, generally lighter is better. but a 16lb 15" rim is better for performance, acceleration (and in turn MPG) than a 16lb 17" rim.
 

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Old 08-17-2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NIGHTHAWKSI
unprung wheel weight is not the only contributing factor to how fast your car will accelerate.

since your 17" rims have mostly all the weight towards the now larger circumfrance of the wheel, it takes more power to actually start turning the wheel.
im not going to get into math calculations here, but think about it like this..
your arm extended, lift up a 20lb weight....takes alot fo force.
your arm curled closer to your body, lift up 20lbs...no where near as difficult.

yes, generally lighter is better. but a 16lb 15" rim is better for performance, acceleration (and in turn MPG) than a 16lb 17" rim.
The 17s also allow for a meatier tire, helping contact patch.
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:55 AM
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im not looking to start an e-argument here, but rim diameter in no way determines what width tire you put on a rim.

if you want a valid point about tires, the rim/ tiresidewall ratio can come into play since a smaller rim requires a larger sidewall tire, which equals a heavier tire. your gonna have to bust out your calcualtor to determine exactly where the line is drawn of what specs are equal to or better than stock
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:10 AM
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17s allow for bigger brakes. Take THAT!
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:14 AM
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Yes im sure were all familiar with centrifugal force and unsprung weight but... whose to say that the weight on the PF01's is evenly distributed from the bore of the wheel to the barrel? We cant really calculate the amount of force (N/m) that will be required to get the vehicle moving and keep it moving in comparison to the stock wheels and tires without testing. Sooo all things aside they look nice and are probably the lightest wheels (made by a reputable manufacturer) that you can get for less than $260/per wheel. Plus Enkei makes Honda's OEM wheels

 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:20 AM
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BlueBoogers stop with your bigger brake BS.

The Fit is the last car that needs bigger brakes.

It weighs next to nothing.

Also, based on your build thread you're going to gain next to nothing from your bigger brakes. You're using Hawk HPS, which are simple street compound pads, not nearly aggressive enough to take advantage of anything. I doubt you're running a super high performance tyre.

Additionally any (minimal) benefits gained from the bigger brakes will be outweighed by the heavy wheels/tyres.

You will also lose further power with the added weight of the bigger brakes.

You realize 555 still has the stock brake calipers on his car, which gets driven significantly harder than yours, right?

The keys to achieving quality braking are the pads and tyres.

Ffffff PF01's.
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
BlueBoogers stop with your bigger brake BS.

The Fit is the last car that needs bigger brakes.

It weighs next to nothing.

Also, based on your build thread you're going to gain next to nothing from your bigger brakes. You're using Hawk HPS, which are simple street compound pads, not nearly aggressive enough to take advantage of anything. I doubt you're running a super high performance tyre.

Additionally any (minimal) benefits gained from the bigger brakes will be outweighed by the heavy wheels/tyres.

You will also lose further power with the added weight of the bigger brakes.

You realize 555 still has the stock brake calipers on his car, which gets driven significantly harder than yours, right?

The keys to achieving quality braking are the pads and tyres.

Ffffff PF01's.
Done with the personal attack there chief?

Where's your high-and-mighty build thread?
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:27 AM
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I have one.

Go find it.

And none of those were personal attacks.

Please tell me where I was wrong in my previous post. I like to learn.
 

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Old 08-17-2012, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
BlueBoogers stop with your bigger brake BS.

The Fit is the last car that needs bigger brakes.

It weighs next to nothing.

Also, based on your build thread you're going to gain next to nothing from your bigger brakes. You're using Hawk HPS, which are simple street compound pads, not nearly aggressive enough to take advantage of anything. I doubt you're running a super high performance tyre.

Additionally any (minimal) benefits gained from the bigger brakes will be outweighed by the heavy wheels/tyres.

You will also lose further power with the added weight of the bigger brakes.

You realize 555 still has the stock brake calipers on his car, which gets driven significantly harder than yours, right?

The keys to achieving quality braking are the pads and tyres.

Ffffff PF01's.
Ok Mike... all automotive things aside. Are you a happy person? Do you find joy in the things you do and say? It seems like all you've been doing ( at least here on Fitfreak.net) is tearing down the dreams and ideas of people that you've never even met. I feel sorry for you mike. .... maybe that's why you don't enjoy your Fit anymore
 
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No desire to bicker over semantics. My money. My car.
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by krunk13
Ok Mike... all automotive things aside. Are you a happy person? Do you find joy in the things you do and say? It seems like all you've been doing ( at least here on Fitfreak.net) is tearing down the dreams and ideas of people that you've never even met. I feel sorry for you mike. .... maybe that's why you don't enjoy your Fit anymore
I'm quite content in my life, yes.
Do I enjoy being an asshole on car forums? No, not at all. However I'm not going to sit around and let some random guy throw around bad info. A car forum is first and foremost a knowledge base and if one can't add to that, they should be silent.

Originally Posted by BlueBoogers
No desire to bicker over semantics. My money. My car.
This is something we can agree on, just remember exactly that the next time you try to tell someone how to modify their car.
 


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