2012 AT for the Highway Not MT
#101
I've been lurking here since before I bought my Fit, roughly Oct. 2007 is when I started to research. My how things have changed.
Granted it wasn't full of geniuses then either, but it didn't seem so ... retarded. Plenty of beat to death or easily researched exhaust, springs and wheels questions but the general sense of:
Wasn't nearly as prevalent.
Granted it wasn't full of geniuses then either, but it didn't seem so ... retarded. Plenty of beat to death or easily researched exhaust, springs and wheels questions but the general sense of:
Wasn't nearly as prevalent.
#103
No but it would take care if this raccoon problem weve developed with the unusually warm winter this year. Maybe the coldsnap tonight will help
#104
Speaking of cold snaps... I have to do my oil change, in an unheated garage. How the F do people do oil changes in winter without freezing their ass off?!?
#105
I'll tell you what I don't like doing the oil on no matter the year, a freaking Nissan Frontier, I wanna strangle the designers who decided to put the filter where it is. I do that one once a year though and always do it around the summer, it can screw itself if it think's I'm gonna be out there busting knuckles when its 18 degrees out.
#106
The A/T Fit gets better highway mileage. Both EPA and real world. M/T gets better in town. On the highway, the final gearing of the A/T allows several hundred rpm less at speed. hence, better mileage, by a couple. In town, reverse.
#109
In addition, the lockup on the torque converter means that in theory, power train losses should be minimal. So if you are at speed, ie 70, rather than a hypermiling 55, the at should barely edge out.
#110
sol It would do wonders for your sanity and faith in the forum to put a good lot of the new members on ignore.
there has been some mind melting stupidity posted in the past couple months, from supposed mechanics and engineers no less. The "Honda Deception" thread and well this one, for example
there has been some mind melting stupidity posted in the past couple months, from supposed mechanics and engineers no less. The "Honda Deception" thread and well this one, for example
#112
Gas Mileage can't really be an issue here, on one list I stumbled appon, the Fit was rated #20 for Mpg. So if mileage is a real issue, there are 19 better choices out there. It was fun for about a week, but I eventually removed the Average Fuel Economy display for the exiting Trip Meter option!
#113
RPM doesn't matter AT ALL. Fuel economy is pretty much based on throttle position. The more throttle you apply, the more gas is used.
#115
You guys are all bitching and moaning about a very small difference in MPG between an auto and a manual. You realize how stupid you're all being, right?
To put my two cents in: I had a manual and I'm in an auto now. In the manual I averaged about 30 MPG, and in the auto I'm at about 27-28 (I just hit my break in point, so I expected lower MPG numbers). Most of my commute is city, I'd say about 85/15. Do I really care about that 2 miles? no. Do I really care that everyone thinks that the auto is a waste of time and the manual is ever so superior to the auto? no. I still thoroughly enjoy the automatic, and it's just my personal preference.
As mentioned earlier, some of the newer members are WAY to opinionated. Take it easy, we're all driving an economy car when it comes down to it. Either way, auto or manual, it's still a fun car to drive and it'll get you good mileage.
We also have threads in the eco section of polls for mileage on an auto and a manual. Anyone ever think about just... reading real world results instead of trying to figure it all out on paper? When it comes down to it, the manual will get better mileage. Period.
To put my two cents in: I had a manual and I'm in an auto now. In the manual I averaged about 30 MPG, and in the auto I'm at about 27-28 (I just hit my break in point, so I expected lower MPG numbers). Most of my commute is city, I'd say about 85/15. Do I really care about that 2 miles? no. Do I really care that everyone thinks that the auto is a waste of time and the manual is ever so superior to the auto? no. I still thoroughly enjoy the automatic, and it's just my personal preference.
As mentioned earlier, some of the newer members are WAY to opinionated. Take it easy, we're all driving an economy car when it comes down to it. Either way, auto or manual, it's still a fun car to drive and it'll get you good mileage.
We also have threads in the eco section of polls for mileage on an auto and a manual. Anyone ever think about just... reading real world results instead of trying to figure it all out on paper? When it comes down to it, the manual will get better mileage. Period.
#119
Hey solbrothers, Im not one of the ones saying the AT gets better mpg but I can see why some AT owners would be irritated by hearing thier car that they paid 17000+ dollars on gets less fuel economy than the manual when the sticker on the car and honda website clearly said the automatic gets the better fuel economy. (wouldn't be surprised if there's a class action lawsuit) Then you and a few others keep calling it an "autotragic", "terribly unefficient", "souless" and many other things. Don't be so surprised your pissing people off and getting them to argue over this. One more thing, on fuel economy.gov the EPA estimates the GD having better mpg with the manual but the GE shows better mpg with the auto. That would explain why GD auto owners never argued this 4 years ago with you. They weren't given false information by a federal agency called the EPA.
#120
several hundred rpm doesn't change the fact that you need to apply more pedal force to maintain the same speed with the automatic transmission.
RPM doesn't matter AT ALL. Fuel economy is pretty much based on throttle position. The more throttle you apply, the more gas is used.
RPM doesn't matter AT ALL. Fuel economy is pretty much based on throttle position. The more throttle you apply, the more gas is used.