Just like the title says, has anyone here tried or heard of the benefits of bisimoto cams?

 

not yet, but i am just made the order yesterday. so another 2-3 weeks before i get it... kind a interested to find out if anyone tried it thou...

ill pay attention to this thread in near future

 

I'll bet that Bisimoto is the only person to use one successfully so far.

 

really? why you said so? ive seen several people regrind their cams (other brand) and the seems got a great results even though took them several time to fine tune the degree of rotation.

 

Very few people over here are willing to buy and learn how to use the equipment needed to tune the ECU for the amount of power gained with a naturally aspirated engine and making not much more than 200 HP and 7400 RPM would require beefier engine internal parts to not self destruct... The majority of owners of Fits consider them as gas sippers that should burn low octane fuel and only have bolt on eye candy stuff to make them look like they are fast... It's been over 35 years since I have seen a shop that would do a performance regrind of a camshaft.

 

why buy anything for performance until a tuning solution is made available? exhaust and intake i can understand to a degree because the sound is worth the cost for some...good luck though and let us know how you make out!

 

Hondata does a reflash of GD3 with manual transmission ECUs as part of the Kraft Werks 10PSI high boost kit.. That is what I have spent the bulk of what I have for my car but I have more things to install that shouldn't be too much for the present tune but still make more power.

 

What cave are you living in that you have been a member here since early 2009 and are not aware of any tuning solutions?

 

I'm one of the guys that can't stand the idea of holing a piston or worse.... If I was to tune for a high performance cam explain to me how I would be able to take advantage of it without upping the rev limiter... I was damned near hitting 8000 RPM in 3rd gear at over 85 MPH the day before yesterday... How can you do that without a reflash.

 

Stand alones would work with the GE8.... Sure, it would be alot of tuning and work to get it right, but there are always options. It really depends on how dedicated you are, and what you want to do.

 

Would full stand alone even be necessary? Couldn't a F/IC or something similar be used?

 

Yes an FIC-6 would be perfectly adequate for 99% of Fit owners.

TC The only Bisi cam that I am aware of is for Boosted L15's so it would compliment your setup quite well.

The easiest thing you could do would be to shim your valve springs, if not just buy heavier ones, and then raise the limiter with the FIC's new beta hex software.

Then add some fuel and pull some timing for safety purposes and see what the raised redline does for your max boost (since you are on an Rotrex, obviously higher rpm on the same pulley = higher boost)

See where power drops off in spite of the added airflow and then make that your redline. If it pulls all the way to 8500-8750 I would probably stop there if you are just on shimmed springs.

 

Hmm, I was not aware a piggyback had this ability. I'll have to look into that.

 

What kind of WHP could we even expect to see with bolt ons and cam? I know it wouldn't take too much to get the fit moving, but it's a pretty tiny 1.5 :P

 

I don't expect much more than 140 but idk. DSM what you think?

 

That all depends on what your mods did to your VE and then how high your winding the motor with its new corresponding VE curve.

Even then different timing/fueling schemes will affect output greatly. In spite of it being a single cam, there is no reason that with the right complimenting components we could not cross the 100whp/liter barrier.

It would require a healthy budget though. I could design and build one for anyone who is serious.

 

[QUOTE=DiamondStarMonsters;1041771]Yes an FIC-6 would be perfectly adequate for 99% of Fit owners.

TC raise the limiter with the FIC's new beta hex software.

I put the KWSC kit on in 2009 and as far as I knew there was no other way to do what the reflash did at the time.... 29 months and 21000 miles of pleasure and reliability.. There is no way that I am physically or mentally able to much more than I have with this car and the floor of my van is covered with stuff I need to put on it as it is... I don't live in a cave but I do live in the woods and have been awake 30 hours after 4 hours sleep in 24. so I'm out of here.

 

lol get some sleep dude. Now that it's not 100F at night, I'm hoping its been easier on ya!

 

Bisi of Bisimoto has been doing camshaft design since the the mid 90's for small displacement motors. The benefits will be a very well engineered camshaft profiles that will gain you power for your setup whether it be a NA or force induction setup.

Thank-you for your order. You will be very happy with the gains you will achieve with your setup

Very true there is not as many Fit owners looking to invest into there build like other platforms at least in America. We do however see customers out of the country very dedicated to racing Fits and other L-series powered setups which we have help develop parts from Bisimoto rods, pistons, camshaft regrind services, pro-springs and titanium retainers.

There are plenty of tuning solutions just depends on how much you would like to invest on your project. We have customers who have invested on AEM standalone and even Motec systems for there Honda Fits.

Full stand alone would not be necessary. AEM FIC is a great choice for most and is a great system to tune with. AEM also has a EMS-4 stand alone which is a very good cost alternative to a full AEM stand alone. It will come with a pig tail harness and fuse box that can be wired up to your engine for a custom install.

With proper tuning a Bisimoto Level 1 camshaft you can see an 10% increase in power over a factory camshaft. Although not on the web site we can design we do also design profiles for naturally aspirated.

 

so level 1 is about 10%, how about level 2? is there a recommendation HP whether i have to choose level 1 or 2 when buying a cam shaft?

is there a lot of different on the comfortness (driving experience wise) using up grade cam or stock?