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Old 09-29-2011, 02:06 PM
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#1. Better carpet in the Fit.

#2. At least on North American models, a locking Gas Hatch with release switch.

Honda has worked on noise deadening...and VSC has become standard.

One thing I don't like about Honda in general is they seem to charge you for "extra's" that I think should be standard. I paid for the OEM center console, which is nice, but IMO should just be standard. I also bought a cargo cover, which I also like, but IMO if you are selling a hatchback? That should also be standard.

But besides that? I'm very impressed with the design and layout of The Honda Fit. It's fun to drive, economical, and versatile...one of the best vehicles I've ever owned.
 
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Old 09-29-2011, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lpxaudio
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Better MPG (seems like 40mpg EPA is the standard now)
Don't automatically buy into claims of 40mpg in the marketing docs unless the vehicle is a hybrid, electric or diesel. Consumer Reports and other mags did tests of vehicles that were touted to achieve 40mpg on the highway and found them to notably underperform. A conclusion from one of these publishers was that manufacturers are finding ways to "game" the EPA MPG estimates. It's best to do your own research of independent reviews before making the EPA estimates a deciding factor.

The Honda MPG estimates of 27 city and 33 hwy are IMHO realistic and do a good job of representing average driving. I was able to achieve 39mpg on a long jaunt from Carmel-by-the-Sea to San Ramon drivng economically on Hwys 1, 156, 101 and 680. That's as varied a drive as you can get (uphill, downhill, flat, curvy, mild traffic here and there). I now average 35-36 mpg on my daily commute of city and highway.

When I go into enthusiastic driving mode, my combined mpg drops to 32-33. I'm sure I could get even more enthusiastic and bring it lower.

If I recall correctly, Consumer Reports achieved 40mpg on their own long test drive.

Others who do lots of in-city driving achieve lower MPGs. That's to be expected if you sit in traffic a lot.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:25 AM
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I want everything available on this car except for the color matched trim pieces, front bumper, and tail lights. Please
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GVlog
Others who do lots of in-city driving achieve lower MPGs. That's to be expected if you sit in traffic a lot.
Or do deliveries.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:57 AM
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In regards to the carpet, the carpet serves its purpose. If you had a more plush, more expensive carpet then ultimately it would wear out faster. Most carpets are completely trashed after 2-3 years, but this carpet is designed to last a while. Actually, the Fit carpet is not really a carpet, but more like a heavy duty mat. I dont mind it too much because I use my car for the work I do. If the carpet were more plush then it would wear away much quicker.

As for mpg, I achieve the following:

27-30 mpg- Driving hard with A/C on in an urban setting

30-33 mpg- Regular everyday driving in suburbia, not pushing it hard

37-41 mpg- Cruise control at 55-65mph on a long highway road trip and no traffic or stopping
 

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Old 09-30-2011, 04:00 AM
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I can't figure out why a company that turbocharges the 600cc city cars they sell in Japan, can't do the same with cars the size of the Fit that they know will be used for longer distance driving over here... Also a close ratio 6 speed gear box with an inline overdrive would work very well with a boosted 1500cc engine.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:32 AM
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Man you's guy have some Great Ideas! I wish Mr. Honda could see the interest we have for his Lil Fit. In a word "Turbo" @ 15- 20 psi and a 5 sp man that could handle it and then some. And better paint adhesion their paint looks gggreat but in 3 years it needs to be resprayed!
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jamy
i want everything available on this car except for the color matched trim pieces, front bumper, and tail lights. please
^^^ exactly!!! ^^^
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GVlog
Don't automatically buy into claims of 40mpg in the marketing docs unless the vehicle is a hybrid, electric or diesel. Consumer Reports and other mags did tests of vehicles that were touted to achieve 40mpg on the highway and found them to notably underperform. A conclusion from one of these publishers was that manufacturers are finding ways to "game" the EPA MPG estimates. It's best to do your own research of independent reviews before making the EPA estimates a deciding factor.
An example. Ford ads highlight 40 MPG highway for the new Ford Fiesta. But the fine print says that's only with the "SFE package" (special fuel efficiency) which consists of lower rolling resistance tires, some underbody panels, etc. For kicks, I searched local Ford dealers inventories of Fiestas and of dozens of cars, none had that package. Plus, even if you chose to order a Fiesta with the SFE package, it's doubtful your slightly higher MPG would offset the cost of the package. But wait there's more - even if the package were free, those lower rolling resistance tires probably wear faster and cost more than other tires, and they probably degrade other performance aspects like braking. So it's pretty much just a marketing gimmick so they can have ads with that big 40 number prominently displayed.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:56 AM
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Twin-Turbo. AWD. 6" ground clearance. High-profile tires. What? $33000 you say?

Never mind. Keep it as is.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:07 AM
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Fit Si/Type-R...
  • Turbo
  • 6MT
  • Better suspension (address bounce and bump steer issues)
  • Longer wheelbase (move tires towards corners)
  • Trunk mounted, regular sized battery (back is way too light)
  • Better tires, regular sized
  • Bluetooth/navi/XM option
  • Better aerodynamics (mainly more downforce for highway stability)
  • Stronger A/C
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by neteng101
Fit Si/Type-R...
  • Turbo
  • 6MT
  • Better suspension (address bounce and bump steer issues)
  • Longer wheelbase (move tires towards corners)
  • Trunk mounted, regular sized battery (back is way too light)
  • Better tires, regular sized
  • Bluetooth/navi/XM option
  • Better aerodynamics (mainly more downforce for highway stability)
  • Stronger A/C
Yeah, what he said! Probably will jack up the price a few $$ more. But let's start with standard/mainstream sized battery and tires.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:27 PM
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Cool Well...

Originally Posted by Perrenoud Fit
Wrong thread So you think the Fit needs a 10 ton crane on it??????????????????????
He put his spam on multiple threads...

Put me down also for the regular sized battery...
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:50 PM
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[quote=SevereService;1036771]What changes do you want to see in future Honda Fits?

1. agree better tire
2. use the 2004 HX engine 1700 cc engine for more relaxed driving efforts - that engine got 40 mpg easily without hybridization. Wouldn' hurt to use that engine in the CRZ to get 150 hp plus that 13 hp electric motor. Might be the ticket for a Si version of the Fit.
3. less maintenance, i.e, better coil paks.
4. agree better seats
5. improved CVT and 6 speed transmission.
6. 4 wheel DISC brakes
yes, I know that nav, lots of computer connectivity.sound deadening is nice, but its not on my list. These will keep the product developers busy enough.
cheers.
 

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Originally Posted by neteng101
Fit Si/Type-R...
  • Turbo
  • 6MT
  • Better suspension (address bounce and bump steer issues)
  • Longer wheelbase (move tires towards corners)
  • Trunk mounted, regular sized battery (back is way too light)
  • Better tires, regular sized
  • Bluetooth/navi/XM option
  • Better aerodynamics (mainly more downforce for highway stability)
  • Stronger A/C
Lemme change dat:

My ideal Fit Si:
-Direct Injected 1.6l I4 that revs to 8-9k and makes 160 bhp. (Should be EASY for Honda..they've done it before w/o DI)
-A trans half as good as the ones they mated to the B-Series
-Suspension similar to the Modulo setup in Japan
-Stock 15x7 wheels with 195/50 or 205/50 tyres
-No satnav/bluetooth/etc
-No aero
-Standard AC
-Seats made for skinnies rather than the obese (even though the majority of Americans are obese pigs)
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mahout
5. improved CVT
Please keep CVTs away. Darn near useless technology compared to a 6-speed auto. A belt is a belt and definitely will fail at some point... CVTs are trouble in the end.
 
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
I can't figure out why a company that turbocharges the 600cc city cars they sell in Japan, can't do the same with cars the size of the Fit that they know will be used for longer distance driving over here...
I prefer iVTEC to a turbo. Depending on the weight/power ratio of the city cars, maybe a turbo is necessary.... but it's for acceleration, not long distance driving.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
-Direct Injected 1.6l I4 that revs to 8-9k and makes 160 bhp.
Just go buy a sportbike instead!

Besides the possibility of carbon build-up, direct injection high-revving engines may be able to provide the HP, but not the torque. The issue with the Honda small displacement high-rev NA engines... NO torque! That's where the turbo comes into play.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:15 PM
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Funny, arguing... points and counter points over a wish list shoulda... coulda... woulda...
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by neteng101
Just go buy a sportbike instead!

Besides the possibility of carbon build-up, direct injection high-revving engines may be able to provide the HP, but not the torque. The issue with the Honda small displacement high-rev NA engines... NO torque! That's where the turbo comes into play.
Oh so that the car will have zero top end? If you put a tiny turbo on the car it'll spool up quickly, but it'll be a dog on top end (think VW GTi 1.8T)

Whereas NA Honda engines are KNOWN for having great gearing, VTEC enables some sort of torque at low rpm's and if you're driving the car hard in anyway..guess what you're going to be in the upper part of the rev range.

Originally Posted by concorde
lol yea.. if any of this unnecessary shit were to end up on a future fit, they'd be $25k usd. would they still be as appealing then?
The loaded ones are already 22k. So with those improvements, gladly. It'd be a great car. As long as it looks like a GD.
 


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