Oil change from HELL!!!
#1
Oil change from HELL!!! PICTURES INCLUDED!!!
I own 2010 Honda Fit Sport manual with about 20,xxx miles on it. Several days ago I decided to change my engine oil since maintenance minder said my oil life was at 10%. So, I went to AutoZone where I purchased Mobil1 Full Synthetic 5w-20 oil and a new oil filter.
I came home and got my Fit on the ramps and then I left it to cool for about one hour. Please see picture below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5019
After about an hour I crawled under the car and drained the engine oil and then I tried to take off the used oil filter and replace it with the new one. Well, in short this is where my troubles started because no matter what I tried doing the oil filter was not coming off. I used oil filter wrench and few other methods and what I was left with was an oil filter with a lot of dents in it that was still on screwed on to the engine . See picture below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5020
Right when I ran out of ideas, I called my brother-in-law who told me to punch a hole through the oil filter using screw driver and a hammer which I did. Please see picture below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5021
After most of the engine oil that remained in the oil filter drained, I punched a screwdriver all the way through the oil filter and then I used it to unscrew the oil filter off. It took me literally no time to unscrew it once the screwdriver was punched through it. Please see picture below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5018
And now these are the pictures of the oil filter once I took it off with the screwdriver I have used. Please see the pictures below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5016
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5017
Well, hopefully this thread will come in handy to some of you because I never used or heard of the method my brother in law told me about.
P.S. After you punch the hole through the oil filter be careful when you handle with your hands because you can cut yourself.
I came home and got my Fit on the ramps and then I left it to cool for about one hour. Please see picture below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5019
After about an hour I crawled under the car and drained the engine oil and then I tried to take off the used oil filter and replace it with the new one. Well, in short this is where my troubles started because no matter what I tried doing the oil filter was not coming off. I used oil filter wrench and few other methods and what I was left with was an oil filter with a lot of dents in it that was still on screwed on to the engine . See picture below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5020
Right when I ran out of ideas, I called my brother-in-law who told me to punch a hole through the oil filter using screw driver and a hammer which I did. Please see picture below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5021
After most of the engine oil that remained in the oil filter drained, I punched a screwdriver all the way through the oil filter and then I used it to unscrew the oil filter off. It took me literally no time to unscrew it once the screwdriver was punched through it. Please see picture below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5018
And now these are the pictures of the oil filter once I took it off with the screwdriver I have used. Please see the pictures below.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5016
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/pict...pictureid=5017
Well, hopefully this thread will come in handy to some of you because I never used or heard of the method my brother in law told me about.
P.S. After you punch the hole through the oil filter be careful when you handle with your hands because you can cut yourself.
Last edited by FitsMePerfect; 09-21-2011 at 04:14 AM. Reason: Pictures too Small. Tried to enlarge them.
#2
When I was in San Diego visiting my dad, I had to do an oil change with my Fit... but I didn't think to bring my filter adapter (which fits the OE filter, and can twisted with a socket wrench... left it in Chicago)... so I was left trying to use my brother's tools to get it off.
No matter what I did, I couldn't get a good grip. Not with the triple sided oil filter tool or the plastic version of the oil filter adapter (which flexed right around it). or even squeezing the plastic adapter under the other tool.
Eventually I got pissed off, grabbed my dad's wrench pliers, crushed it and twisted it right off with the pliers.
As for the oil filter tool I forgot to bring with me?
it should help you too
No matter what I did, I couldn't get a good grip. Not with the triple sided oil filter tool or the plastic version of the oil filter adapter (which flexed right around it). or even squeezing the plastic adapter under the other tool.
Eventually I got pissed off, grabbed my dad's wrench pliers, crushed it and twisted it right off with the pliers.
As for the oil filter tool I forgot to bring with me?
it should help you too
#3
punching a hole through the filter is a great last resort tool. normally filters come off with the use of the claw
http://www.jiffysupply.com/catalog/25017.jpg
apply some oil on the rubber seal before hand tightening the oil filter
http://www.jiffysupply.com/catalog/25017.jpg
apply some oil on the rubber seal before hand tightening the oil filter
#4
FMP meet Hogwylde
By the way you should compare oil changing techniques with Hogwylde. Here's his experience: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-present/66563-my-first-diy-oil-change-fit-ugh-3.html#post1018811
Last edited by Subie; 09-21-2011 at 04:45 AM.
#5
I went back to AutoZone looking for that oil filter tool, but they did not have one which I could use on my Fit. Considering the fact that I was running out of time I had to adapt and improvise and honestly it felt good punching a hole through that oil filter with hammer and screwdriver after it caused me so much headache.
#8
I went back to AutoZone looking for that oil filter tool, but they did not have one which I could use on my Fit. Considering the fact that I was running out of time I had to adapt and improvise and honestly it felt good punching a hole through that oil filter with hammer and screwdriver after it caused me so much headache.
re: Subie
hand tightened?!? I don't trust anything hand tightened... especially by my hands. Granted, I might only apply a 1/4-1/2 turn on a wrench sometimes, but i'm not comfortable with hand tightened when it comes to cars.
Heck, when i did the oil change in SD, i used a Mobil1 filter, which fit the plastic filter a *little* better, so I tightened it until the plastic slipped (which is more than hand tightening can do, though not much).
#9
These oil filter pliers work great, fit almost any filter and can get in very tight spaces. Haven't seen the old screwdriver method in years! Nice pix. Those bring back memories. Another tip is to use dirty motor oil to lube the filter seal instead of fresh to make the filter easier to remove next time.
#10
I was fortunate to already have the correct size filter that I bought to change the oil on my Goldwing but the filter was really on tight.... In my younger days I spent a great deal of time changing oil washing and doing lube jobs on cars and learned that you never want to over tighten an oil filter... It is possible to over tighten one with your hand making the need for the old screw driver mess.. I had to use a screwdriver on a lot of cars that had the filters over tightened but it wasn't much messier than the internal filters that were inside of a canister that had to be removed.that today's type of filters replaced.
#11
Actually, this was my third oil change. Previous oil change was performed by a local Honda dealership.
For past ten years I've been doing all the maintenance on my cars myself and not once have I had any problems especially with something as simple as oil change. Last oil change (first time I went to a dealership for maintenance) I went to Honda dealership because of certain time restraints I was dealing with and as a result I had a overtightened oil filter to deal with. For past ten years I have always used my hands to tighten the filter and I never had any problems with it, plus when you need time for replacement, it comes off pretty easy.
Well, in short I am not going back to dealerships for maintenance anymore. I trust myself more because I know I will do it right!!!
For past ten years I've been doing all the maintenance on my cars myself and not once have I had any problems especially with something as simple as oil change. Last oil change (first time I went to a dealership for maintenance) I went to Honda dealership because of certain time restraints I was dealing with and as a result I had a overtightened oil filter to deal with. For past ten years I have always used my hands to tighten the filter and I never had any problems with it, plus when you need time for replacement, it comes off pretty easy.
Well, in short I am not going back to dealerships for maintenance anymore. I trust myself more because I know I will do it right!!!
#12
I use the same tool, Chad. cheap and very effective. goobers, I hand tighten and I'm a weakling. I've never had leaks in any cars I've done oil changes in. I do start up the car after an oil change and check under for leaking after few minutes with the engine running.
#13
I am getting to where I have problems doing some things that need to be done on my car but have yet to let a dealership tech wrench on it... There is a young guy that works for a local repair shop and owns a fast Prelude that he has built who has offered to give me a hand on installing some stuff... I really need to give him a call...
#14
The best way to stop that from happening is to not over tighten it when you put it on.
I have always follwed these step when installing a filter.
1. Put old oil on the gasket
2. Spin the filter with only your finger tips until it catches and stops.
3. Get a full grip on the filter, and turn it by hand until you can't anymore.
I intentionally use purolator pure one oil filter because they have an abrasive grip coating on the entire filter.
I have always follwed these step when installing a filter.
1. Put old oil on the gasket
2. Spin the filter with only your finger tips until it catches and stops.
3. Get a full grip on the filter, and turn it by hand until you can't anymore.
I intentionally use purolator pure one oil filter because they have an abrasive grip coating on the entire filter.
#15
re: Subie
hand tightened?!? I don't trust anything hand tightened... especially by my hands. Granted, I might only apply a 1/4-1/2 turn on a wrench sometimes, but i'm not comfortable with hand tightened when it comes to cars.
Heck, when i did the oil change in SD, i used a Mobil1 filter, which fit the plastic filter a *little* better, so I tightened it until the plastic slipped (which is more than hand tightening can do, though not much).
hand tightened?!? I don't trust anything hand tightened... especially by my hands. Granted, I might only apply a 1/4-1/2 turn on a wrench sometimes, but i'm not comfortable with hand tightened when it comes to cars.
Heck, when i did the oil change in SD, i used a Mobil1 filter, which fit the plastic filter a *little* better, so I tightened it until the plastic slipped (which is more than hand tightening can do, though not much).
#16
Just a mindless observation on the title of the thread: since all of our oils except the true POA synthetics come from deep within the fiery bowels of the earth, I guess technically almost all oil changes are from HELL. Sorry, couldn't help myself....
#17
punching a hole through the filter is a great last resort tool. normally filters come off with the use of the claw
http://www.jiffysupply.com/catalog/25017.jpg
apply some oil on the rubber seal before hand tightening the oil filter
http://www.jiffysupply.com/catalog/25017.jpg
apply some oil on the rubber seal before hand tightening the oil filter
I also use old oil on the gasket and hand tight only, just run the car idling for a while and rev to 4k real quick to make sure no leaks on the filter.
Haven't used the screwdriver trick in a long time but it definitly works.