Oil use - New Fit
#3
It's normal. I did my first oil change at 7,000 miles and I'm sure there are members here that it took even longer.
#6
I'm still at 70% with over 4500 miles. Of course, most of the miles put on my car is from the 30 mile (each way) daily commute in which I don't see a traffic light until the last couple of miles. I would say easily 90% of those 4500 miles are highway (non-rush hour too).
However, I do expect it to drop to 60% any mile now.
However, I do expect it to drop to 60% any mile now.
#7
I think the MM is set to more like 12,500 interval under "average" use as evidenced by the European service schedule manual scan that has been posted in other threads.
#10
I doubt you'll be able to use the whole "MM told me this" defense if your engine starts going.
#11
Following the manufacture's maintenance schedule voids the manufacturer's warranty?
#12
If I were you, I would change it sooner than what the computer says for the peace of mind. Unless of course, you just don't care?
#13
The computer presumably keeps track of a lot more than mileage- cold starts, warm starts, total starts, high rpm, engine revs, etc.
Miles alone is a too-simple way of determining oil change intervals when a computer has much more information to work from.
Miles alone is a too-simple way of determining oil change intervals when a computer has much more information to work from.
#14
You're following a computer that doesn't know everything involved in the equation. I'm pretty sure it doesn't know what filter you use, doesn't know what viscosity or type of oil.
If I were you, I would change it sooner than what the computer says for the peace of mind. Unless of course, you just don't care?
If I were you, I would change it sooner than what the computer says for the peace of mind. Unless of course, you just don't care?
#15
You're following a computer that doesn't know everything involved in the equation. I'm pretty sure it doesn't know what filter you use, doesn't know what viscosity or type of oil.
If I were you, I would change it sooner than what the computer says for the peace of mind. Unless of course, you just don't care?
If I were you, I would change it sooner than what the computer says for the peace of mind. Unless of course, you just don't care?
I'm not worried. Honda knows engines better than ANYONE else out there. and therefore know how oil will react better in their own engines than anyone else. They've built their Rep on reliable engines so they aren't going to jeopardize that.
Here comes the spiel.
Originally Posted by ME damnit ME - like 100000 times
3K oil changes came from the 50s & 60's where oil was poorly manufactured, engines over 60K miles were considered miracles and were machined with AWFUL tolerances using OLD technology. Have we not progressed in every other level of technology yet oil remains our one foe? no... oil & engine tech has too progressed with everything else...
The only thing that hasn't progressed... Mindsets.
The only thing that hasn't progressed... Mindsets.
Also, the Warranty will cover any issues.
My peace of mind is that I've always followed the manufacturer's specs (I've had 1 non-honda) and have had vehicles with almost 200K miles on them that were run pretty hard with 0, (again let's count... 0) engine related issues. (oops... one. A distributor seized on my B18B integra but that was covered by Acura under a campaign.)
Oh... and I've chosen to run Synthetic in the engine although I don't really feel like I need to. I figured $10 more every $10K miles Isn't going to hurt anything.
I'll leave the 3K oil changes to My FIL's '69 GT500... Welcome to the 21st Century.
~SB
Last edited by specboy; 05-16-2011 at 09:47 PM. Reason: Missing an "r"
#17
He said he changed at 9k (9k OCI)
then at 20k (11k OCI)
then is expecting at 30k (10k OCI)
Maybe you were thinking that he was going 20k and 30k intervals on his 2nd and 3rd changes?
10k is exactly in line with what everyone else as well as what the Euro manual is saying, so you're the odd man out on this.
For all of you changing early, I would like to ask, why only the obsession with oil? Why aren't you also changing your tires when they are 50% used, or your brakepads when they're 50%? To each your own, but examine why the obsession for oil only
Last edited by raytseng; 05-17-2011 at 02:08 AM.
#18
My wife belongs to the Church of the Holy Oil Change. She also does everything else the service salespeople preach. I cringe whenever she brings her Toyota home from a prayer meeting at the dealership.
I've been working on her slowly to convert by my being a living example. 10K between changes here (15% on the MM). I did thumb my nose at the Honda dealer when they wanted $112 for mm "2" service. I can change my own air cleaner element and cabin filter for less than $40.
If you want to do something where you can tell a difference, pull out your cabin filter and check out how black it is with lots of grody stuff between the folds. You can smell the difference replacing it and the A/C will work better. It's about $20 online. Invest $6 at the same time changing your wiper inserts (no you don't need to change the whole wiper). I do these yearly, and pop in a new air cleaner ($17) while I'm at it. OK I'm guilty of some unnecessary maintenance.
It's a damn good Honda economy car folks. Stop acting like it's a Ferrari.
#19
I did say to run an oil analysis with blackstone, simply because others going xxxxx miles and being fine doesn't mean every engine will be fine.
It's a precaution.
#20
This precaution is still based on giving any merit to 50 year old advice. There's no precaution needed if following the manufacturer's directions. Simply follow the directions. If you choose to do something more extreme than the manufacturer's directions then that's when you should take certain precautions.