Opinion on winter tires and rims for 2010 Fit Sport
#1
Opinion on winter tires and rims for 2010 Fit Sport
Hi everyone,
I've come here a few times to research things in the past, but never posted. Here's my first go at it.
Note that I'm from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Lots of snow/ice/slush.
I bought a new 2010 Fit Sport in May and now have to buy winter tires and I want to have them on their own winter steel rims while I use my all-seasons that came with the car during non-winter months.
As the size of OEM all-seasons is 185/55R16 and is apparently a rare size and I'm having difficulty finding rims of this size that have a pattern matching my car model (I found tires, but not rims), I've done some research, which has given me these two other sizes that would be relatively "the same" (very minimal change in size):
175/65R15
205/50R16
Question 1: Are you aware of this issue with finding rims for the OEM size? Should I keep looking?
Question 2: I read that a narrower and possibly lighter tire such as the 175/65R15 would be better in winter to cut through slush and snow. On the other hand, wouldn't the larger one provide better traction and more surface contact? What's better? The incentive is that the smaller size is cheaper and more readily available.
Question 3: I read somewhere that not using the OEM size of 185/55R16 void the warranty. Is this correct??? This freaks me out. My car is brand new and I don't want to do anything that would void my warranty.
Question 4: In the OEM size, my choice would have been a Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60. Now that I'm considering the 175/65R15 size, it gives me an additonal option (which happens to be on sale at Costco and have a mail-in rebate) of the Michelin XI2. My father recommended the Bridgestone, but apparently the Michelin might be better.... I have no idea, as I've only driven with Pirelli Carving Edge on a 2007 Fit LX before and I was ok with them (fiancé didn't like them for some reason).
Any help with choosing the size and brand would be really appreciated! I'm trying to get my tires installed by midweek next week...
Thank you!
I've come here a few times to research things in the past, but never posted. Here's my first go at it.
Note that I'm from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Lots of snow/ice/slush.
I bought a new 2010 Fit Sport in May and now have to buy winter tires and I want to have them on their own winter steel rims while I use my all-seasons that came with the car during non-winter months.
As the size of OEM all-seasons is 185/55R16 and is apparently a rare size and I'm having difficulty finding rims of this size that have a pattern matching my car model (I found tires, but not rims), I've done some research, which has given me these two other sizes that would be relatively "the same" (very minimal change in size):
175/65R15
205/50R16
Question 1: Are you aware of this issue with finding rims for the OEM size? Should I keep looking?
Question 2: I read that a narrower and possibly lighter tire such as the 175/65R15 would be better in winter to cut through slush and snow. On the other hand, wouldn't the larger one provide better traction and more surface contact? What's better? The incentive is that the smaller size is cheaper and more readily available.
Question 3: I read somewhere that not using the OEM size of 185/55R16 void the warranty. Is this correct??? This freaks me out. My car is brand new and I don't want to do anything that would void my warranty.
Question 4: In the OEM size, my choice would have been a Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60. Now that I'm considering the 175/65R15 size, it gives me an additonal option (which happens to be on sale at Costco and have a mail-in rebate) of the Michelin XI2. My father recommended the Bridgestone, but apparently the Michelin might be better.... I have no idea, as I've only driven with Pirelli Carving Edge on a 2007 Fit LX before and I was ok with them (fiancé didn't like them for some reason).
Any help with choosing the size and brand would be really appreciated! I'm trying to get my tires installed by midweek next week...
Thank you!
#3
Q1. Yes, we also have problem finding after market rims in the same size. It doesn't seem to be common.
Q2. narrower tires give you more traction on snow. Wide tires turn into skis or snowboard.
Q3. 175/65R15 is OEM size, that comes in the LX. This is a better choice for winter tires than 185/55R16. If in fear, ask your dealer. I think you are more than safe with this.
Q4. WS60 and Xi2 are both very good winter tires, I have ued WS and Xice before and like them both. Xi2 is suppose to be better than Xice. There are independent test reports on them too. The last one I saw was on Consumer Reports. Xi2 was ranked #1 if I remember correctly.
Q2. narrower tires give you more traction on snow. Wide tires turn into skis or snowboard.
Q3. 175/65R15 is OEM size, that comes in the LX. This is a better choice for winter tires than 185/55R16. If in fear, ask your dealer. I think you are more than safe with this.
Q4. WS60 and Xi2 are both very good winter tires, I have ued WS and Xice before and like them both. Xi2 is suppose to be better than Xice. There are independent test reports on them too. The last one I saw was on Consumer Reports. Xi2 was ranked #1 if I remember correctly.
#4
Best choice is the 175/65R15 Blizzaks and definitively won't affect warranty as that is the stock size on the non sport models. It's also what I put on mine. I got my 15" Fit steel rims from my Honda dealer.
Another choice is to go to 14" Civic rims and 185/70R14 which is almost the same overall diameter. Cheaper too.
Another choice is to go to 14" Civic rims and 185/70R14 which is almost the same overall diameter. Cheaper too.
Last edited by Virtual; 11-16-2010 at 10:43 PM.
#6
The 175/65R15, with make/model of tire being equal, should be better in snow due to the narrower tire cutting better through snow (wide tires tend to float more on snow/slush).
#7
This is certainly true, but another thing to consider is that (at least on Tirerack), there's more of a selection of winter tires for 195/60R15. Not sure if it matters since the Blizzaks and X-Ice are both good winter tires, I just mention it in case you want other options.
#8
what is everyone using for winter rim size and tires on a 2009-10 fit sport?
I need to buy a set and want to know what the best size to go to would be, staying as close to the 185/55/16 diameter as possible! either with a 15 inch or 14 wheel
thanks
I need to buy a set and want to know what the best size to go to would be, staying as close to the 185/55/16 diameter as possible! either with a 15 inch or 14 wheel
thanks
#9
You can see a couple of options people have used above -- generally, narrower tires will cut through the snow better (and are a little cheaper). Tires for 14" rims also tend to be cheaper, and people have used 14" wheels successfully (tirerack also sells a 14" package, so it should fit).
Personally I'm using Contiental ExtremeWinterContacts 195/60R15 on 15x6 steel wheels with a 45mm offset. No snow yet, but they seem fine on dry roads, though softer than the stock tires (the recent warmer than average weather hasn't helped that any). They were rated #1 in a recent Tirerack test, though the tirerack staff over in the Fit Shoes forum still recommend blizzaks.
As for checking the tire size compared to stock, you can (and should) check it yourself using one of many tire size calculators on the web, like Tire size calculator. 195/60R15 will make your speedometer read 0.8% slow, 175/65R15 would make it read 0.2% too fast, and 185/70R14 would also make it read 0.8% slow.
Personally I'm using Contiental ExtremeWinterContacts 195/60R15 on 15x6 steel wheels with a 45mm offset. No snow yet, but they seem fine on dry roads, though softer than the stock tires (the recent warmer than average weather hasn't helped that any). They were rated #1 in a recent Tirerack test, though the tirerack staff over in the Fit Shoes forum still recommend blizzaks.
As for checking the tire size compared to stock, you can (and should) check it yourself using one of many tire size calculators on the web, like Tire size calculator. 195/60R15 will make your speedometer read 0.8% slow, 175/65R15 would make it read 0.2% too fast, and 185/70R14 would also make it read 0.8% slow.
#10
I haven't picked up tires yet but will likely be going 185 or 175 on 15" wheels. The narrower the tire, the better for winter driving so you aren't "floating" up on top of the snow, but cutting through it. I picked up 15" integra alloys for $12.50 each and while they need a bit of refinishing, I'm not worried as it's winter wheels. check Craigslist or similar for rims as they are Readily available. Civic or Integra 15" or larger (supposedly 14" or larger will work but I stuck to 15") will fit with no issues. I had to check with a number of people about bolt spacing as there were a number of wheels out there that claimed they fit on a civic but actually they were for an Accord. The Accord used to use a 4 bolt pattern but it is 114, not 100.
$50 and 110miles of driving (got to go to the mall there so it wasn't just for tires) and i have 4 15" integra Mesh wheels.
~SB
$50 and 110miles of driving (got to go to the mall there so it wasn't just for tires) and i have 4 15" integra Mesh wheels.
~SB
#11
Like Virtual, I picked up a set of 15" steel wheels from the base Fit last fall from the dealer and mounted 175/65/15 ContiWinterContact TS810S tires.
These tires lack some of the hardcore grip that the Blizzaks (and other similar tires) offer on the ice, however they are not nearly as squirmy on dry roads, especially at higher speeds. The narrow tire definitely bites through the deep snow well, but if you see a lot of ice and slush the narrow Blizzaks would be really good.
These tires lack some of the hardcore grip that the Blizzaks (and other similar tires) offer on the ice, however they are not nearly as squirmy on dry roads, especially at higher speeds. The narrow tire definitely bites through the deep snow well, but if you see a lot of ice and slush the narrow Blizzaks would be really good.
#12
I've looked at some craigslist wheel listings too of old 4x100 lug wheels, but I keep wondering what you guys who have gone that route have done about TPMS sensors. Just leave them off and have the light on all the time? Can new sensors be installed on old wheels that weren't designed to accept them?
#13
I lived for the first 38 years of my life in South Dakota and never had snow tires. Based on that, I suggest that you get a set of cable chains, store them in the back of the car for emergencies and try the stock all seasons for the first winter.
If that is unacceptable I would recommend the Nokian WRG2 in size 205/50-16, mounted on your stock wheels, and just keep them on year around with the cable chains stored in the back of the Fit for emergencies.
If you have to go with dedicated winter tires on dedicated rims, I would suggest Nokian Hakkapeliitta R or studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5 both in size 205/50-16. To stud or not to stud depends on if you are driving on a lot of dry roads or not.
If that is unacceptable I would recommend the Nokian WRG2 in size 205/50-16, mounted on your stock wheels, and just keep them on year around with the cable chains stored in the back of the Fit for emergencies.
If you have to go with dedicated winter tires on dedicated rims, I would suggest Nokian Hakkapeliitta R or studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5 both in size 205/50-16. To stud or not to stud depends on if you are driving on a lot of dry roads or not.
#14
I've looked at some craigslist wheel listings too of old 4x100 lug wheels, but I keep wondering what you guys who have gone that route have done about TPMS sensors. Just leave them off and have the light on all the time? Can new sensors be installed on old wheels that weren't designed to accept them?
I lived for the first 38 years of my life in South Dakota and never had snow tires. Based on that, I suggest that you get a set of cable chains, store them in the back of the car for emergencies and try the stock all seasons for the first winter.
If that is unacceptable I would recommend the Nokian WRG2 in size 205/50-16, mounted on your stock wheels, and just keep them on year around with the cable chains stored in the back of the Fit for emergencies.
If you have to go with dedicated winter tires on dedicated rims, I would suggest Nokian Hakkapeliitta R or studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5 both in size 205/50-16. To stud or not to stud depends on if you are driving on a lot of dry roads or not.
If that is unacceptable I would recommend the Nokian WRG2 in size 205/50-16, mounted on your stock wheels, and just keep them on year around with the cable chains stored in the back of the Fit for emergencies.
If you have to go with dedicated winter tires on dedicated rims, I would suggest Nokian Hakkapeliitta R or studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5 both in size 205/50-16. To stud or not to stud depends on if you are driving on a lot of dry roads or not.
~SB
#15
You can see a couple of options people have used above -- generally, narrower tires will cut through the snow better (and are a little cheaper). Tires for 14" rims also tend to be cheaper, and people have used 14" wheels successfully (tirerack also sells a 14" package, so it should fit).
Personally I'm using Contiental ExtremeWinterContacts 195/60R15 on 15x6 steel wheels with a 45mm offset. No snow yet, but they seem fine on dry roads, though softer than the stock tires (the recent warmer than average weather hasn't helped that any). They were rated #1 in a recent Tirerack test, though the tirerack staff over in the Fit Shoes forum still recommend blizzaks.
As for checking the tire size compared to stock, you can (and should) check it yourself using one of many tire size calculators on the web, like Tire size calculator. 195/60R15 will make your speedometer read 0.8% slow, 175/65R15 would make it read 0.2% too fast, and 185/70R14 would also make it read 0.8% slow.
Personally I'm using Contiental ExtremeWinterContacts 195/60R15 on 15x6 steel wheels with a 45mm offset. No snow yet, but they seem fine on dry roads, though softer than the stock tires (the recent warmer than average weather hasn't helped that any). They were rated #1 in a recent Tirerack test, though the tirerack staff over in the Fit Shoes forum still recommend blizzaks.
As for checking the tire size compared to stock, you can (and should) check it yourself using one of many tire size calculators on the web, like Tire size calculator. 195/60R15 will make your speedometer read 0.8% slow, 175/65R15 would make it read 0.2% too fast, and 185/70R14 would also make it read 0.8% slow.
#16
Thanks everyone.
FWIW, I ended up buying the 175/65R15 and Michelin XI2. I also called the dealership to ask about warranty screwups and they said I'm fine since this size is the same as the original size of 185/55R16 (equivalent, 0.2% too fast). I'm paying CAD$107.50 per tire, plus $45 per rim at Costco. Best deal I could find.
FWIW, I ended up buying the 175/65R15 and Michelin XI2. I also called the dealership to ask about warranty screwups and they said I'm fine since this size is the same as the original size of 185/55R16 (equivalent, 0.2% too fast). I'm paying CAD$107.50 per tire, plus $45 per rim at Costco. Best deal I could find.
#18
Check Craigslist for wheels. I got a set of 15" alloys off of craigslist for $50
~SB
#20
Thanks everyone.
FWIW, I ended up buying the 175/65R15 and Michelin XI2. I also called the dealership to ask about warranty screwups and they said I'm fine since this size is the same as the original size of 185/55R16 (equivalent, 0.2% too fast). I'm paying CAD$107.50 per tire, plus $45 per rim at Costco. Best deal I could find.
FWIW, I ended up buying the 175/65R15 and Michelin XI2. I also called the dealership to ask about warranty screwups and they said I'm fine since this size is the same as the original size of 185/55R16 (equivalent, 0.2% too fast). I'm paying CAD$107.50 per tire, plus $45 per rim at Costco. Best deal I could find.
One of the dealers here is selling OEM 15" rims at $69. They also have a winter tire package with 15" OEM steel rims & XI2 at $ 901+GST.
Last edited by fiteddy; 09-07-2011 at 06:09 PM. Reason: edit