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Old 09-16-2010, 01:03 AM
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Car and Driver magazine recently had an article on the Fit vs. Mazda 2 vs. Ford Fiesta. 0-60 times for the 2010 Fit was 8.3 seconds. I recall that the 2007/2008 0-60 times were around 8.7-9.0. However, Car and Driver times are usually faster than some other publications. I know that the 2nd generation Fit has more horsepower than the 1st generation. But does it really accelerate faster than the 1st generation? Does anyone know of any head to head tests pitting the 1st gen vs. the 2nd gen?
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:26 AM
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Car and Driver not only test acceleration correctly without "cheating", but they correct their times as well. Use their 5-60mph street start if you want to compare real world acceleration with other cars.

Motortrend recorded 0-60 in 8.3 secs as well for the GE 2 years ago.

And yes, the GE is faster than the GD. If you gather all the magazines times for both gens, the GE is about 1 sec faster for both the manual and AT.

If you don't believe in the magazines' times for both cars, then you can't trust in anything else you'll find, i.e., "claimed" 1/4 mile track times, hearsay, etc.
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:46 AM
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I've never done a timed 0 to 60 in my GD but it feels like it would do better than 8.3... maybe my butt dyno is lying to me. I may be wrong but I think the GE cars have a numerically higher final drive ratio. If so they should be faster... My wife test drove one and said it felt slow but neither of us are into 0 to 60 acceleration..
 

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Two friends have/had a GE8 auto and GD3 auto. Raced (chill they only went to like 60) and the GE was a good car length ahead. To my knowledge, its not so much a hp difference, but gearing, like Coyote said..

And honestly, I feel like low 8 seconds is pretty accurate for my ge. Which, considering 1.5l with about 120hp (with mods), thats impressive to me. Honestly, the Fit is "faster" than i thought it would be. Fast being relative
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 12:43 PM
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I feel like with weight reduction I'm in the mid to low 7's...I can't prove it yet. I hope to get a G-tech dashboard mounted device for 0-60, 1/4 mile, etc.
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:09 PM
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I thought you had the high boost kit on your GD? You should be sub-6 seconds with that, eh?
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:11 PM
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Maybe I did something wrong? My 0-60 was pretty bad when I tested it a few weeks ago. I don't even want to post it hahaha. I'm disappointed because I have Tanabe Concept G exhaust and an Injen cold air intake and I don't think they added anything but sexy noise. Maybe it's because I added a subwoofer too which I'm guessing weighs about 50lbs. But yeahh my 0-60 is worse than stock right now
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:47 PM
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How did you test it? If it included yourself operating a stop watch while simultaneously driving and eyeballing the speed gauge, well then.....
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:11 PM
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What is te speedometer error in the Fit? In older Hondas, it seemed to be in the 5% range. On many Japanese motorcycles (Kawasaki in particular) it's as great as 10% high. On the ninja, as a rule of thumb, I subtract 1 mph for every ten (I.e. Indicated 60 = ~54). Honda got sued over the odometer error, as it was 4% high, throwing off MPG and valuation calculations - they added a few miles to my factory warranty on the Element as part if the settlement.
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EMC2
Car and Driver magazine recently had an article on the Fit vs. Mazda 2 vs. Ford Fiesta. 0-60 times for the 2010 Fit was 8.3 seconds. I recall that the 2007/2008 0-60 times were around 8.7-9.0. However, Car and Driver times are usually faster than some other publications. I know that the 2nd generation Fit has more horsepower than the 1st generation. But does it really accelerate faster than the 1st generation? Does anyone know of any head to head tests pitting the 1st gen vs. the 2nd gen?
honestly, who cares. all of them are slow. unless you're sub-6 seconds it's not worth even debating. wat are you going to do, race against a minivan?
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:35 PM
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a car with 117hp to the crank and an estimated 89-98hp to the wheels, i wouldnt really worry about 0-60 times.

i would be more inclined to increase my lateral g's, handling and decrease my stopping distance so that i would be able to spank any car on the road through the twisty stuff.
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:06 PM
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What is te speedometer error in the Fit?
Mine is DARN accurate, maybe off 1mph. GPS verified.
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by blackndecker
How did you test it? If it included yourself operating a stop watch while simultaneously driving and eyeballing the speed gauge, well then.....
I'm a pro!
 
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Mine is DARN accurate, maybe off 1mph. GPS verified.
Ditto, GPS tested as well, about 1mph.
 
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Originally Posted by blackndecker
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I thought you had the high boost kit on your GD? You should be sub-6 seconds with that, eh?
Thank you, I wondered who would catch that... I don't do 0 to 60s but I've walked off from cars that are said to do it in 6.0 seconds... The second sentence of that post wasn't meant as sarcastic humor and is 100% correct about what was said... I have no opinion being I haven't driven a GE and 0 to 60 times are superficial and irrelevant in real world driving situations anyway.
 

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Old 09-16-2010, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
0 to 60 times are superficial and irrelevant in real world driving situations anyway.
Ding ding ding ding!!!
 
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
and 0 to 60 times are superficial and irrelevant in real world driving situations anyway.
QFT...just in case some of you missed it...+rep for you TC
 
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:16 AM
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Saying that the 0-60 is irrevelant isn't great for the fit, since it has a good 0-60 but no low end (what counts on daily driving).
 
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:18 AM
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It is not relevant for any vehicle, it is more of a small-cock statistic.
 
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
Thank you, I wondered who would catch that... I don't do 0 to 60s but I've walked off from cars that are said to do it in 6.0 seconds... The second sentence of that post wasn't meant as sarcastic humor and is 100% correct about what was said... I have no opinion being I haven't driven a GE and 0 to 60 times are superficial and irrelevant in real world driving situations anyway.
TC, I must respectfully disagree. Top speed is irrelevant. Quarter mile is irrelevant. 0-60 is what gets you to speed on a too-short onramp to a city freeway.

The freeway by my house is often busy (it's Cali highway 1) and the onramp is uphill with a minimal length merge lane. At 65 speed limit, with mos traffic at 70+, and no "move over to let mergers in" mentality like in the southeast, gunning it to 60+ is an almost daily activity. Its either that, or be the assholr that tried to merge into 70 mph traffic at 45.
 


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