Hi, I was looking at the license plate papers of the cars at home and I saw that the usdm was given at 1128kg, which is 50 extra kilograms (by the license plate papers) than a ford focus zx3 2001 with similar equipement (except for the airbags). And the jdm/european fit weight just a bit over 1000kg. I think that edm fit doesn't have a spare tire though.

So, did anyone put their GE fit on scales to see how heavy it is? Because the usdm has a 1.5l engine instead of 1.2/1.4 and is a bit longer (mostly the bumpers I think), but for the rest, it doesn't have anything that would make it really heavy.

If really it's heavier than focus, I'm a bit disapointed.

 

And why would that be?

Whether a car is or isn't heavier should matter very little. Give it a test drive to actually decided whether you like it or not. See if it gives you enough of the "umph" that you want. See if it feels comfortable as a ride. SEE IT to know if you like the looks. Etc.

Don't based your "likes/disappointments" solely on numbers on a piece of paper.

 

The fit is fine but not as great as it could be, it's decently powerfull but I don't get that feeling of a light car like I do in my geo metro or the toyota echo at my job, the engine takes some take to wake up, and once you are in the revs it's pretty linear and boring. And the oem 175/15 tires (plus nobody makes such narrow tires in 15 inches) doesn't help the car. Compacts of a few years ago like focus or civic were with 185 or 195 tires standard, for a similar weight. We have an echo hatchback 1.5l (105hp, throttle by cable, less than 1000kg) at my work and a couple yaris (same engine, 100 extra kg, drive by wire) and the echo is much more responsive and fun to drive than the yaris, more umph at low revs (even if the gearbox is longer), nicer in the small curves, etc. So I guess that a 100kg lighter fit, with a few other adjustements, would get the same difference/improvement.

And for me if a small car like the fit weights so much (and we can't attribute all the weight on safety features) it's because the engeeners didn't do their job right somewhere, even if it doesn't make the fit a bad car.
I'll keep my civic wagon 1987 for now, even if it's a death trap. I'll try to have a test drive on a 07-08 fit, maybe I'll like it more (even if they lack of leg room like the newer fits too).

Anyway, I'm just surprised it weights more than some 10 years old compacts, I was wondering if anybody put them on scales.

 

The narrow tires are for fuel economy to offset the weight and engine.

Who is "nobody"? A quick search on discounttires.com found one brand. Jumping to Tirerack.com... you get FIVE brands... including some popular ones, Yokohama and Pirelli on top of the more basic, Dunlop, Bridgestones and Continentals.

If you want to talk Canadian, there's TireCanada.com, Tiretrends.com, etc.

Now, as for the rest of your post... I'm not going to bother replying other than the following (which should clue in other readers to why I'm not replying anymore).

You either have an IQ of 200+ to know more than they do... or something else to be arrogant enough to make such a claim.

That being said, I'm done with this thread.

 

Well, my Jazz 1,4 comfort with M/T is 1073 kg heavy (no spare tire).
Jazz 1,4 exe A/T weight 1110 kg.

 

I weighed my 09 Fit Sport 5MT not long after I got it, and with a full tank of fuel and me in the car (200#) it was 2780lbs.

So (2780-200) = 2580 / 2.2 = 1173 kilos.

 

The fit is super fun to drive. Possibly the extra weight is for quality parts, not that hollow feel of the other cars you mentioned.

 

The fit is more fun to drive if you stay in the revs, and because of the stiffer suspensions. But on a daily basis, the seats aren't really comfortable (especially for tall driver), it's noisy, and it feels slow in the low revs, despite the short gears ratio. But the "made in Japan" is something good to know too.

But about the quality parts I don't know which ones, the seats doesn't have much foam, the plastics are cheap, not much sound deadening, no independant rear suspension, and historically, Honda won't rust less than any other brand.

5 brands isn't much imo, some popular sizes have like 30 models available. And probably that there won't be any performance tire in the oem size, so you will have to change the wheels fo something like 14x5.5 or 15x6 to put a decent rubber.

 

WOW (nuff said) = goobers is right, i dont even know why i responded to this thread

 

Honda has always had odd sizes for their tires. My integra was 195/55/15 - tough to find anything decent (for a good price) in that size. My wife's civic had more choices but still, not a great selection.

One thing of note is that honda is using [the combination of] a larger wheel and a narrower tire than most other manufacturers. for a 16" wheel, it is very narrow. Because of this combination, you won't find much ever in OEM sizes because these porportions have only really ever been used on conastoga wagons. Most 16" wheels have a minimum of a 205 width tire on them so a 195 will be less likely and a 185? practically unheard of. This would also be the same reason you won't see much performance rubber in OEM sizes... Performance and 185 aren't really a winning combination unless you are running a 13" wheel on an original mini. In most cases, they are almost opposite.

~SB

 

Still in somethng like 185/14, you could hope to find a pseudo performance tire, for cars like old civic or mini. In 16 inches, it will probably be mostly first price tires.

Anyways, I went to the scales with the focus and with 1/2 tank and me it was 1260kg (1180 without me), so it's over the weight on the paper. I'll weight the fit, probably that it will be less (if I refere to the guy with the fit sport) , maybe the regulations for the weights on the license plate papers changed.

 

It would be awesome if the fit weighed the same as a CRX

 

Is it with the driver?
I just put the fit on scales, it weights 1100kg without a driver and 1/2 tank, spare tire in place, so pretty much the same as your 1.4 without the tire (unless it's with a driver).

 

i wish modern day cars were as light as old cars were. lotus: add lightness!

 

Newer elise are almost 400 extra pounds than the first ones.

 

Without the driver. Factory information.

 

You realize the car is heavier because features have been added right?

My Civic weighs 2200 pounds, so about 500 pounds less except:

-No airbags
-No power steering
-No power windows
-No power locks
-No air conditioning
-2 speakers
-No computer aids
-Very little sound deadening
-Plus it's tiny

 

Calling the interior of a GE8 cheap and then talking about a Focus in the same sentence..

That is probably the number 1 reason I didn't get the Focus.. number 2 would be for supposedly 140hp it felt sluggish and it certainly wasn't nimble.

I've come to the conclusion the numbers only tell half the story... I test drove a bunch of cars against the Fit and to me, the Fit scooted along the best and handled the best. This compared to a Mazda 3, Ford Focus, Scion xB, Hyundai Accent, and a Hyundai Elantra Touring.

 

Well, like I said, I weighted the fit and it is not as heavy asthe license plate paper said, so it is not so bad. But still, therre aresome cars that weightabout the same and are bigger, with the same safety features.

And the focus doesn t really have a cheap interior, after 150 000 miles fit and fiish was still fine, plastic did not scratch easilly, soft plastic trim on the doors (not the dash though), good cloth. Just doesnt have 6 airbags, however the focus is heavier than the fit by 75kg if I refere to the scales, so there is no problem anymore.