Harsh 1-2 shift with manual
#1
Harsh 1-2 shift with manual
When doing a WOT run, I can't get the 1-2 shift to be smooth without a shock to the driveline. I've been driving a MT for 14 years and never had this problem.
Is it the clutch delay, or am I being a little too fast and furious with my upshifts and pedal work? I'm not sure I could even emulate this in any of my past cars no matter how hard I tried.
Is it the clutch delay, or am I being a little too fast and furious with my upshifts and pedal work? I'm not sure I could even emulate this in any of my past cars no matter how hard I tried.
#5
I'm pretty good at dealing with the rev hang in normal shifting, as it can be tuned out with your foot pretty good, and my last car had the same thing. Could it be that the rev hang is not letting me get back on the power though? Like a delay in the throttle? I'm talking about drag racing shifts here. Hard and fast. Not something I do regularly, but the clunk make me uneasy when it happens. In all other conditions, it works as expected.
#7
When doing a WOT run, I can't get the 1-2 shift to be smooth without a shock to the driveline. I've been driving a MT for 14 years and never had this problem.
Is it the clutch delay, or am I being a little too fast and furious with my upshifts and pedal work? I'm not sure I could even emulate this in any of my past cars no matter how hard I tried.
Is it the clutch delay, or am I being a little too fast and furious with my upshifts and pedal work? I'm not sure I could even emulate this in any of my past cars no matter how hard I tried.
#8
Yeah, I've been watching that thread. I won't be touching anything in the system like that until the warranty has expired though.
Has anyone else noticed this clunk? That's the odd part about this thread. I promise, it's not a reflection on your driving to say so. I buy a lot of cars, so it's not like I don't have any point of reference. It's embarrassing when giving test rides.
Mind you, I've only tried this twice in one month, and the likelihood of more drag race shifts will diminish per month of ownership. I just want to make sure nothing is wrong.
Has anyone else noticed this clunk? That's the odd part about this thread. I promise, it's not a reflection on your driving to say so. I buy a lot of cars, so it's not like I don't have any point of reference. It's embarrassing when giving test rides.
Mind you, I've only tried this twice in one month, and the likelihood of more drag race shifts will diminish per month of ownership. I just want to make sure nothing is wrong.
#9
Has anyone else noticed this clunk? That's the odd part about this thread. I promise, it's not a reflection on your driving to say so. I buy a lot of cars, so it's not like I don't have any point of reference. It's embarrassing when giving test rides.
Mind you, I've only tried this twice in one month, and the likelihood of more drag race shifts will diminish per month of ownership. I just want to make sure nothing is wrong.
Mind you, I've only tried this twice in one month, and the likelihood of more drag race shifts will diminish per month of ownership. I just want to make sure nothing is wrong.
It's as if the path the shifter takes when going from 1st to 2nd isn't a straight line.
#10
The shifter is smoother on mine, it's just when I get back on the gas and let out the clutch in 2nd that it occurs. I suppose with a LOT of finesse, it could be smooth, but I'm thinking that it can't be done too quickly.
#11
There was a review on Edmunds long-term GE Fit that noted similar issues with respect to shifting too quickly.
#12
I think it has alot to do with how short 1st gear is and how long 2nd gear is, the RPMs drop too much so it's tough for a smooth transition. I'd recommend getting back on the throttle a little bit earlier and seeing if that helps. Also, it's VERY easy to chirp 2nd gear and it's probably best to chirp it too to get a little bit of a jump and to try and get the rpms up sooner, just my two cents
#13
I've been thinking about it, and this is the conclusion I've come to as well. I don't like doing this to the car, but I'll give it a whirl next time. I take it to redline at least once every few days or more, but just relax on the shifts. Haven't launched the car yet though, and probably never will. I don't think I even launched my Mazdaspeed with the LSD when I had it.
#15
But she said it felt like 2nd was back and a little to the right instead of straight back.
And I found that pulling in that direction did make the shift a little more consistent.
Thought overall, (I think due to the rev hang), I still often don't get a smooth 1-2 shift.
#17
1-2 just take your time. Let off the clutch smoothly and slowly. being gentle with the clutch and gas engagement is key for smooth driving
also, try adding a little more gas then you "feel" is needed and start on the gas earlier, this helps me sometimes
also, try adding a little more gas then you "feel" is needed and start on the gas earlier, this helps me sometimes
#18
This is my crazy explanation..... Your motor mounts are winding to the max causing the clunking sound.... The best fix is lighter wheels and tires.... I told you it was crazy but it fixed my car and even supercharged and getting down hard no tire hop or winding up the motor mounts..... The stock wheel/tire combination is way to heavy and is the cause of your problem.
#19
The harsh shift happens on my GD as well. The culprit in my case is pedal work that's too fast for the transmission. On a hustled 1-2 shift, clutch release timing is critical - or else you risk the gnashing sound of gear teeth
#20
This is my crazy explanation..... Your motor mounts are winding to the max causing the clunking sound.... The best fix is lighter wheels and tires.... I told you it was crazy but it fixed my car and even supercharged and getting down hard no tire hop or winding up the motor mounts..... The stock wheel/tire combination is way to heavy and is the cause of your problem.
Last edited by hayden; 05-27-2010 at 09:51 PM.
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