I'm curious how the Fit's 1.5 liter engine stacks up, but can't find a convenient database of engine sizes for current model production cars sold in the US. I think the Smart car has a 1.0L. Other cars I looked at when shopping for the Fit had engines as small as 1.6L (Yaris, Rio5). So how does the current Fit rank in terms of engine displacement?

This isn't about the Fit needing a bigger engine (I got no complaints but some people do). I'm also not counting the smaller gas engines in hybrids.

And if anybody can turn up a listing of engine sizes for all current makes and models that would be great. I couldn't find anything in a google search.

 

it's one of the smaller engines as far as Displacement is concerned.
The fit has the 1.5 with 117hp
For comparison,
Yaris has a 1.5L putting out 106hp
1.8L in the Versa is putting out 122hp
The fiesta has a 1.6L putting out 120hp.
The Aveo has a 1.6L putting down 108hp

In the hybrid arena, the Prius has a 1.8L and the Insight is sporting a 1.3L

~SB

 

Well, I'm feeling a bit dumb, thought the Yaris was 1.6. Shows you how good a researcher I am. Thanks...

 

NP... I thought the Versa was a 1.6 and someone had mentioned it was a 1.3 a few weeks back... I just couldn't ever remember seeing a 1.6 badge on the back of a versa.... so I had to look it up. and while I was online.. I checked elsewhere. One thing I noticed, Ford's website doesn't have the HP specs for the Fiesta. (that I could find) Had to put that into google to find it out.

~SB

 

1.6 Ford Fiesta Engine... @ freaken 11:.01 compression!!! (and everyone thinks the fit has high compression here) and 120hp.

 

*gasp* and on 87 octane... I can't imagine what discussions about regular v Premium will be on that board...

YES... PREMIUM IS A MUST - Ford doesn't know what they are talking about with regular... I've go 250hp just by switching from REGuLAR to PremIUm...

Premium's cleaner.... Premium blah... premium blah blah...

Gotta Lurk

~SB

PS, I think the Accord 4cyl is in the 11:1 compression range. too. Can't remember though and I researched stuff earlier... I'm being lazy now... it's saturday and I have to work tomorrow.

 

Heck, even a new Harley-Davidson has a bigger engine than the Fit (96 cubic inches versus 92 cubic inches).

Of course, the Harley produces only a little more than half the horsepower, too.

 

Yeah I know. I was surprised to see that comp. ratio too.

But if you do the math, the fit still has a little edge on power density per liter.

Fiesta: 120/1.6 = 75 hp per liter
Ge8 Fit: 117/1.5 = 78 hp per liter

But of course torque plays an important role also. I'm not sure on the how much the torque is on the Fiesta.

High compression ratio engines that run on regular octane fuel is possible now a days because of the introduction of under piston oil jet/spray that cools the pistons (With the 1.8 civic engines at least.). But judging from the comp. ratio figures we are seeing with the Fit and Fiesta, it may very well be also equipped with under piston oil jet IMO.

 

Versa is 1.6 iirc

base model - 1.6
SL - 1.8?

 

ok... so I had to check... Damnit, I said I wasn't going to do this.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

I checked only the hatch before... and I should have checked everything...
Base & one step up... is a 1.6L but only on the SEDAN. The 1.8 is in the S and SL in both Sedan as well as All hatches. Nissan's 1.6 has 107hp. I'm coming from a Nissan so I should have known the Screwy things they do with their model lineup. (Like the Altima SE/SR which has the sport package and suspension... is the base model 3.5L how Stupid is that?)

Ugh...

~SB

 

we're going to have to lock up our discussion boards to members only we look like idiots running premium compared to these dudes

 

The Fiesta is a direct injection engine and would probably run as well as the Fit does on 87 octane fuel.

 

You sure about that? I don't think the 1.6 going in the Fiesta is DI.

 

But, with 2 cylinders.

 

Of course, Harleys are derided, particularly by sportbike riders, for the low ouput for engine size.

The Honda CBR600RR has a 118 hp engine... from 6/10th of a liter (600cc). Of course, it does so at 13,500 RPM.
The Yamaha R1 uses 1 liter to produce around 136 hp.
The Suzuki GSX1300R, better known as the "Hayabusa," has a 1.3L engine cranking 173 hp. Imagine THAT under the hood of a Fit!

Of course, even a slow bike is quick by car standards. My Ninja 650R is a pretty low end sport-bike, and it does 0-60 in well under 5 seconds with a mere 65-ish horsepower. ~12 seconds seems to be the consensus for 1/4 mile.

 

And with the 2 connecting on a single crank pin that ride on roller bearings, long push rods and hydraulic lifters... They are simple to work on until you have to go into the bottom end.

 

Much smaller engines are probably common for JDM models, and 1.4L 90hp seems to be pretty much the standard engine for Euro zone cars. 1.5L and 100+hp is the minimum available (Estupid for Two is not a real car, IMO) in the US because we need sub 10 second zero to sixty in an entry level car? Our gasoline is cheap? Yes, it is, relative to other industrialized countries. The main reason is that Americans buy 90% automatics and expect to go fast.

I remember the streets filled with 1200cc Datsuns and Toyotas, "Zero to sixty in 16 seconds!". I drove a 50hp VW back then and still own one. You can keep up with traffic. I wish the Fit M/T came with a 1.3L and got 50+mpg, but it doesnt in our market.

 

What blows my mind is the 600cc turbocharged Hondas that are being sold in Japan.... Taxes on automobiles there are based on engine displacement. It wouldn't be a bad idea for cars to be taxed the same way here. I

 

I agree, but unfortunately some of our lowest paid demographic needs the largest vehicles for work. Japan has the advantage of being densely populated. It's the auto makers that need to shape up. We all know the evolution of the internal combustion engine has been halted by big oil over the years.

Then you got people like Raphial Morgado and his MYT (massive yet tiny) engine. If this goes into some form of production, it will take the cake! Fascinating stuff for those who have not seen it. Has it's believers and critics of course.

Angel Labs :: Home

 

???? Maybe for NASCAR.

Flex-fuel, DI, i-Vetec (and similar from other makes), cylinder deactivation, 10+:1 compression on 87 AKI gasoline, etc. means "halted"?

"Alternative" mechanical contraptions have always proved less efficient than round pistons in cylindrical bores connected to a common crankshaft. Look what happened with the Wankel. It was revolutionary and proved to be much less efficient, so it died.